shdwboxn

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if you are looking for some cheap spares, check out ACE hardware; they have a good selection of 3mm flat/button screws, washers and locknuts for about .10 per, depending on what length you get

Socket

iTrader: (61)

They have Ace hardware's down under?

AntH3000

It was a joke, but not a racist joke. Admittedly not a very funny one. I did explain it, you can look all the terms up on google in 5 seconds.

SuperRC

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Thanks for the reply. We don't have ace hardware down under.
I know other Rc brands have these screw kits, just wondering if AE does too? Its just good to have some spares.

Mason

AE has a S.A.E. (4-40 thread kit) but nothing in metric at this time.

Other known online options are fastener express or microfasteners. I'm sure there are others with car specific kits but I forget their names.

190mph

iTrader: (12)

Guys,


Scroll down halfway down the page and the is 4 packs of Ti Screws and that way you can grab certain sizes of button and countersunk ones for spares. You pay about a dollar a screw:


https://www.teamassociated.com/cars_...s_accessories/




If you meant a package of say 2 or 4 of every screw size used in the kit and Ti at the same time then that would be nice to have offered, but maybe just get a second complete set and coupon code it somewhere online to save as best you can.

abailey21

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KNK has some bulk stuff, not sure if it'll be any help but it's awesome for the vintage stuff Right Here

goehm

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This is where I say your explanation is terrible because nobody understands what you're saying.

It matters where the weight is because weight is really just gravity. Weight is measured at each corner of the car in a static environment and that's where you get your corner weight values. That environment is a safe place like a workbench and a scale, but that isn't where we race.

Corner weights are a good overall metric because it's very hard to measure dynamic forces at play on the race track, but to pretend like those dynamic forces don't exist is a bit silly.

Once you get into that dynamic environment (like a race track) then center of gravity is at play as is dynamic weight distribution (weight transfer) which is impacted by center of gravity. Adjusting the shock locations impact center of gravity and adjusting shock locations outside of the wheel base also has a added bonus of pendulum effect is can have. Take for example a rear motor buggy and their tendency to spin as compared to a mid motor buggy. In the case of rear mounted shocks, it is also an impact regardless of how minor.

So what do you do when you can't effectively measure those dynamic forces? You experiment and go with what feels best. It's best to understand what basic impact the changes have so you know which direction to go in. My intent was to describe those impacts.

The impact of the weights as I described them are accurate, and I argue that people understood (even though you said it was a terrible explanation). Once I see a manufacturer's tuning guide that tells it's kit owners about polar moments and such versus the impact of the adjustment then I will concede that you explanation is superior.

Until then, enjoy your formulas.

30Tooth

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Your explanation was so wrong and assumed so much Sir Isaac Newton is not rolling in his resting place, he's moving in non-newtonian ways
I wrote a long and boring reply but deleted it and will be straight to the point with this one, not aimed at you of course.

Front of the arm vs rear of the arm? Try both and see for yourself which feels better if it feels better and the clock agrees it's the better of the two.

goehm

iTrader: (45)

What did I say that was wrong? You're saying this isn't accurate? ->

• Rear of arm = More weight transfer to rear on acceleration/more forward traction/less on power steering
• Front of arm = Less weight transfer to rear on acceleration/less forward traction/more on power steering

If that's not accurate, then what is it? You and Ant keep saying I'm wrong, but aren't providing what the impact of shock locations is.

I can only assume you guys are saying it's the opposite of what I said, so it sounds like you guys saying that shocks on the rear give more on power steering and less forward traction? Shocks on the front give less on power steering and more forward traction?

I don't get it.

Isn't that what I said? "You experiment and go with what feels best."

Socket

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Hey guys, I summed up the feeling in a single post. We all have better stuff to do than argue about the science behind it.

30Tooth

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@Socket, yes indeed no need to write long boring replies, you summed the effect nicely as always.

@goehm, yeah you said that but that wasn't the focus of my (and apparently AntH3000) reply. Sending you a PM

goehm

iTrader: (45)

I agree, no need to get too technical on RCTech.

Back to the shock towers! I am envisioning fabrication of an XRAY XB4 brace. Just kidding, I never broke one of those but I guess it was an issue on those cars for some.

markt311

iTrader: (34)

Too many engineers, not enough hobbyists

racer1812

iTrader: (31)

Technical this or that, this language that language (I say Google terms you don't understand)..."racist", give me a break

At the end of the day, just ask yourself. "What would Wildcherry say?"

The answer...Nobody knows, most people can't read "smoke"..except maybe Cheech and Chong.