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1) put inner bearing in hub
2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle
3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier
4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier
5) push outter bearing into hub carrier

using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.



I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM).

Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter:

Originally Posted by kdub
I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.

The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right.
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Old 02-24-2017, 05:40 PM
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But one thing I've been doing since I got in this hobby... I reasearch the issues I'm having and change things up little by little.. trying to keep note of what all it did .. I've moved things around just so I personally know through experience what it does, not just cause I read it somewhere...
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Still blows me away how such a minute change can make such a huge difference on these cars.
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I ran 12 heat races making 1 change each race to get to the set I am at now.
I clean and fully sauce all four tires after each race .
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Originally Posted by mellow
Still blows me away how such a minute change can make such a huge difference on these cars.
This is how I see it..... if you shrink yourself and literally fit and drive the B6... any adjustments you make would obviously affect how you drive the B6 when you are in it...... just like real cars.
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Originally Posted by Phillip F
This is how I see it..... if you shrink yourself and literally fit and drive the B6... any adjustments you make would obviously affect how you drive the B6 when you are in it...... just like real cars.
The affects are even greater...

We often forget that 1/10 scale cars regularly reach speeds far in excess than their full-scale counterparts. Even a stock buggy for example, can reach speeds of nearly 20-30mph down a back stretch.

I can't imagine driving a full scale off-road vehicle 200-300mph on a dirt road...

Small changes are magnified.
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Originally Posted by celt
The affects are even greater...

We often forget that 1/10 scale cars regularly reach speeds far in excess than their full-scale counterparts. Even a stock buggy for example, can reach speeds of nearly 20-30mph down a back stretch.

I can't imagine driving a full scale off-road vehicle 200-300mph on a dirt road...

Small changes are magnified.

So much Yes! couldn't agree any more with your statement
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How are you guys mounting a fan with a standup WITHOUT a waterfall mount?
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How are you guys mounting a fan with a standup WITHOUT a waterfall mount?
Doh, I saw stand up after I responded. I use shoo goo in my laydown. Dont know if there is room or not in standup.
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Originally Posted by Jason B
I'll definitely check it out
Moving the shocks to the front of the tower takes away rear bite, it has the same effect on any laydown car you can get YZ-2, B6, etc. The brass C plate puts the weight where you want it, but is not a definite fix. Depending on how loose the track is, you may never get the rear bite you want without adding weight somewhere. The AE manual is 100% right, shocks in fronmt allow for better steering coming out of the corners and a tighter turning radius, shocks in the rear provide more traction at a minimal loss of corner speed steering. Your tires, and track conditions will dicatate what works for you, and what wont. If you look on the Kyosho forum (car I had before I went to AE) a large number of drivers have gone back to 4 gear laydown transmissions with the shocks in front since the motor is turning the opposite way, the rear squats more, and adds grip withjout losing corner speed steering. I wonder if AE is looking into adding this option? would (in my opinion) help with laydown on lesser then high bite tracks.
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Originally Posted by jpcopeland1
Moving the shocks to the front of the tower takes away rear bite, it has the same effect on any laydown car you can get YZ-2, B6, etc. The brass C plate puts the weight where you want it, but is not a definite fix. Depending on how loose the track is, you may never get the rear bite you want without adding weight somewhere. The AE manual is 100% right, shocks in fronmt allow for better steering coming out of the corners and a tighter turning radius, shocks in the rear provide more traction at a minimal loss of corner speed steering. Your tires, and track conditions will dicatate what works for you, and what wont. If you look on the Kyosho forum (car I had before I went to AE) a large number of drivers have gone back to 4 gear laydown transmissions with the shocks in front since the motor is turning the opposite way, the rear squats more, and adds grip withjout losing corner speed steering. I wonder if AE is looking into adding this option? would (in my opinion) help with laydown on lesser then high bite tracks.
Thank you - that's kind of what I've been stuck on... I'm seeing numerous setups that use the shocks on the rear with the laydown, and Spencer Rivkin did the same, with the express purpose of planing the rear end. I figure if it's good enough for him, it's probably good enough for me

Of course, I realize the only real way to find out what works for me at my track is to make these changes one by one and then try it out. But I can't get back to the track until next Saturday, so I figure hyper-obsessing here is the next best thing hehe.
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Searched the entire thread, can't find what inserts to use for aluminum D mount..?
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Searched the entire thread, can't find what inserts to use for aluminum D mount..?


The c and d mounts use the same pills. Just orient them the correct way and you're good to go.
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Okay guys, my Google-fu isn't too sharp tonight. Just got back from a day of carpet racing, 17.5 class. Managed to break every round, which was a first. First breakage was the MIP rollers gear diff outdrive. So I took the transmission apart and put the stock outdrives and dogbones back in. After that, I'd get a lap or 2 in the race and the dogbones would pop out. I noticed that the bones were only hittin the outer edge of the outdrive. So, once I verify I didn't leave out any shims or spavers, can one of you fine folks point me to the longer dog bones? Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by BruceR.
Okay guys, my Google-fu isn't too sharp tonight. Just got back from a day of carpet racing, 17.5 class. Managed to break every round, which was a first. First breakage was the MIP rollers gear diff outdrive. So I took the transmission apart and put the stock outdrives and dogbones back in. After that, I'd get a lap or 2 in the race and the dogbones would pop out. I noticed that the bones were only hittin the outer edge of the outdrive. So, once I verify I didn't leave out any shims or spavers, can one of you fine folks point me to the longer dog bones? Thanks in advance
#91605 will fix the dog bones from coming out.
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Makes sense. So this is needed if you use the aluminum D block? I wonder why it didn't mess me up when I was using the MIP drives and roller set up. I'll get these on order along with a few other goodies. Thanks again!
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