9LikesLosi 1/10 TEN-SCTE ARR 4x4 Short Course Truck Thread
07-26-2011, 12:41 PM
Bottom line is, people just like to hear themselves complain sometimes....I think it makes them feel more important or something
07-26-2011, 12:41 PM
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I'm not brand loyal to Losi in the least. In fact, I'm much more of a Kyosho guy....but the SCTE is a great truck for the price. The only other truck on the market thats close to it is the durango, and at a 150$ premium over the Losi. Thats before the 70$ in swaybars, the extra center diff, the machined gears, and the other uber expensive hard to find do-dads it needs to keep from grenading. The AE is such a pile of garbage that I can't even include it in the conversation.
You simply ARE NOT going to get 8th scale materials in a 250$ truck. I don't care who makes it....xray, rango, kyosho, ANYBODY.
If you want 8th scale materials and durability, you can pretty much plan on spending 8th scale type money on your SCTE, plain and simple. 8th scales cost 500$ for a reason, regardless of what brand you start with
Could and should Losi have been more careful getting the truck to market......sure they have.....but complaining about needing extra parts to make a newly released truck race worthy just makes you look pretty silly.....thats something endemic to ALL new releases and the price you pay for being an early adopter trying to get a jump on the competition.
And, for the record, the Xray 808 is a slow pile of shiz. I wouldn't trade an 8ight 2.0 for two 808's.
You simply ARE NOT going to get 8th scale materials in a 250$ truck. I don't care who makes it....xray, rango, kyosho, ANYBODY.
If you want 8th scale materials and durability, you can pretty much plan on spending 8th scale type money on your SCTE, plain and simple. 8th scales cost 500$ for a reason, regardless of what brand you start with
Could and should Losi have been more careful getting the truck to market......sure they have.....but complaining about needing extra parts to make a newly released truck race worthy just makes you look pretty silly.....thats something endemic to ALL new releases and the price you pay for being an early adopter trying to get a jump on the competition.
And, for the record, the Xray 808 is a slow pile of shiz. I wouldn't trade an 8ight 2.0 for two 808's.
07-26-2011, 12:44 PM
I never said anyone wouldn't, I just said it's asinine to expect so much from a 250$ truck...and then B&W when hop up parts are needed to bring it to race spec. The same people would be B&W'ing if the truck came out with all the stuff on it for 500$.
Bottom line is, people just like to hear themselves complain sometimes....I think it makes them feel more important or something
Bottom line is, people just like to hear themselves complain sometimes....I think it makes them feel more important or something
I know I didn't.
07-26-2011, 12:46 PM
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It's selling so well because even with all of it's flaws, it's the best SCT out there, which doesn't say much for the state of SCT's.
The Durango might be higher quality components, but it's a scaled up 1/10th scale buggy that's already very, very fragile. There's a few around here that munch diffs and don't finish mains all the time. At an indoor clay track I race at here I've seen a number of the Durango buggies that their SCT is based on break and not finish races, so I don't know why they thought putting that platform in the rough and tumble class of SCT racing was a good idea.
If Losi is trying to hit a price point, they should offer the RTR SCTE (like their doing now, more or less) and a REAL race worthy SCTE (like the 8ight race roller) for people who can actually tell if their diff cups have 4mm of slop in them or not when they are brand new.
The Durango might be higher quality components, but it's a scaled up 1/10th scale buggy that's already very, very fragile. There's a few around here that munch diffs and don't finish mains all the time. At an indoor clay track I race at here I've seen a number of the Durango buggies that their SCT is based on break and not finish races, so I don't know why they thought putting that platform in the rough and tumble class of SCT racing was a good idea.
If Losi is trying to hit a price point, they should offer the RTR SCTE (like their doing now, more or less) and a REAL race worthy SCTE (like the 8ight race roller) for people who can actually tell if their diff cups have 4mm of slop in them or not when they are brand new.
07-26-2011, 12:47 PM
I'll have spent more on it than I did buying the truck to begin with though.
07-26-2011, 12:52 PM
Honest feedback here for Losi.
First, I love my SCTE. It drives great and was the car that got me to finally give 4x4 SCTE a shot. I am literally almost as fast as my e 1/8 with it. My setup seems to work everywhere with only one or two setup tweaks.
Nevertheless, the quality of this truck was definitely a lot lower than what I expected. The plastic is just not what I expect of a racer. It is very durable but at the end of the day I literally have more money in upgrades on the car than the roller cost me.
BCE Chassis
Lunsford Titanium Hinge Pins
Elite Mount
Alum Rear Hub Carriers
Losi CF Towers
Chris Pins in Diffs
Tony's Screw Kit
I would have gladly paid $400 bucks for a higher quality kit out the box. IMHO, all Losi needs to do is change the plastic formula so it matches exactly to the 8ight 2.0 plastic and put better screws on the truck.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why Mugen & Xray are dragging their feet on this class. If I could get Xray quality with the SCTE handling believe me, I'd pay the premium for it.
First, I love my SCTE. It drives great and was the car that got me to finally give 4x4 SCTE a shot. I am literally almost as fast as my e 1/8 with it. My setup seems to work everywhere with only one or two setup tweaks.
Nevertheless, the quality of this truck was definitely a lot lower than what I expected. The plastic is just not what I expect of a racer. It is very durable but at the end of the day I literally have more money in upgrades on the car than the roller cost me.
BCE Chassis
Lunsford Titanium Hinge Pins
Elite Mount
Alum Rear Hub Carriers
Losi CF Towers
Chris Pins in Diffs
Tony's Screw Kit
I would have gladly paid $400 bucks for a higher quality kit out the box. IMHO, all Losi needs to do is change the plastic formula so it matches exactly to the 8ight 2.0 plastic and put better screws on the truck.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why Mugen & Xray are dragging their feet on this class. If I could get Xray quality with the SCTE handling believe me, I'd pay the premium for it.
07-26-2011, 12:54 PM
I wish conversions were RCPro/ROAR legal.
Then you could just convert a good platform like Serpent/XRay/Mugen/Kyosho into an SCT with little more than narrower arms, body posts and hexes.
Then you could just convert a good platform like Serpent/XRay/Mugen/Kyosho into an SCT with little more than narrower arms, body posts and hexes.
07-26-2011, 12:58 PM
Thinking otherwise is either juvenile or lacking in English comprehension.
For every fault in the SCTE, there's a "fix"........I'd have thought that would be enough to appease the ballswinging pitchfork holders by now
All this senseless complaining is doing is pissing off and chasing away the factory guys that are on here trying to help us out!!! Please, tell us how thats going to help anyone???
07-26-2011, 01:01 PM
And your posts are helping who exactly?
07-26-2011, 01:01 PM
07-26-2011, 01:02 PM
Most find the current crop of trucks to be a little chintzy quality wise.
07-26-2011, 01:05 PM
This class is nothing more than a mini 1/8 truggy class imho. Most of the 8th scale nitro guys around here hate the 2wd SCTs and electric racing in general. However, they all love 4x4 SCTe as they can lay down 8th scale electric power and are fun to drive. As soon as Losi and Associated came out with their cars, they all got 4wd SCTs.
Most find the current crop of trucks to be a little chintzy quality wise.
Most find the current crop of trucks to be a little chintzy quality wise.
07-26-2011, 01:09 PM
I think I can count on one hand how many people on here have contributed more than me to this thread with pertinent info on how to fix this truck......so to your question the answer would be...just about everyone.
You probably don't realize that though, since you are too busy listening to yourself drivel nonsense than to spend anytime reading and learning how to fix the issues you are complaining about.
You probably don't realize that though, since you are too busy listening to yourself drivel nonsense than to spend anytime reading and learning how to fix the issues you are complaining about.
07-26-2011, 01:13 PM
My issues are all fixed.
Doesn't mean that I, and about 500 other people in this thread, can't express our opinions about the lack of quality of the kit.
If it weren't a good kit and if we didn't all like it, no one would care about the defects, but I guess you are a tad too slow to figure that out.
This is a public forum. Everyone has a right to express their opinions. If you don't want to read it, don't click the thread.
Doesn't mean that I, and about 500 other people in this thread, can't express our opinions about the lack of quality of the kit.
If it weren't a good kit and if we didn't all like it, no one would care about the defects, but I guess you are a tad too slow to figure that out.
This is a public forum. Everyone has a right to express their opinions. If you don't want to read it, don't click the thread.
07-26-2011, 01:13 PM
I bought a 810, out of the box and less then a gallon later here is what was found:
1: Cracked rear arm at mold seam.
2: no lube in diffs.
3: Diff Pin Wear. Chris Pin fixed it.
4: Pull start assembly spring popped out of the short shot casing., never saw that in my life....
Anyways, with all that said and gone. Losi has been AMAZING with customer service. I received parts within a week on all issues.
I like the price of these TEN based kits and it gets people into the hobby. If they raised costs, I am sure you would see less people at the track....
1: Cracked rear arm at mold seam.
2: no lube in diffs.
3: Diff Pin Wear. Chris Pin fixed it.
4: Pull start assembly spring popped out of the short shot casing.
, never saw that in my life....Anyways, with all that said and gone. Losi has been AMAZING with customer service. I received parts within a week on all issues.
I like the price of these TEN based kits and it gets people into the hobby. If they raised costs, I am sure you would see less people at the track....