23T motor thread
#481
Tech Master
jdm thanks for the input.
i think in europe 19t should be the new 27t stock class then have 12t limit for racers who want it and then open mod ie no limit.
this would be a lot better in my personnal view.
i think in europe 19t should be the new 27t stock class then have 12t limit for racers who want it and then open mod ie no limit.
this would be a lot better in my personnal view.
#482
Tech Champion
iTrader: (31)
Originally posted by trf racer
jdm thanks for the input.
i think in europe 19t should be the new 27t stock class then have 12t limit for racers who want it and then open mod ie no limit.
this would be a lot better in my personnal view.
jdm thanks for the input.
i think in europe 19t should be the new 27t stock class then have 12t limit for racers who want it and then open mod ie no limit.
this would be a lot better in my personnal view.
-Dave
#483
JMRCA 23t Motor Specifications
Hey guys:
I’m hoping someone here can help me out, I'm looking for rules and guidelines that JMRCA uses for there 23T motor specifications, any help here would be appreciated... I’m Particularly interested in these specs, max wire diameter, min wire length, max timing, compression welded comm tabs only or is braise and soldering permitted, are bushings only allowed, is there a max retail price like ROAR has set for our stock class… Thanks
Curtis Schlaht Jr.
Fukuyama MotorSports
I’m hoping someone here can help me out, I'm looking for rules and guidelines that JMRCA uses for there 23T motor specifications, any help here would be appreciated... I’m Particularly interested in these specs, max wire diameter, min wire length, max timing, compression welded comm tabs only or is braise and soldering permitted, are bushings only allowed, is there a max retail price like ROAR has set for our stock class… Thanks
Curtis Schlaht Jr.
Fukuyama MotorSports
#484
Originally posted by PizzaDude
Dave,
What is the difference between the new Tamiya 23t compared to the older versions?
Any additional info?
Ben2Ben
Any on-track info yet.
Thanks guys.
Pizza
Dave,
What is the difference between the new Tamiya 23t compared to the older versions?
Any additional info?
Ben2Ben
Any on-track info yet.
Thanks guys.
Pizza
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#486
Tech Champion
iTrader: (31)
Re: JMRCA 23t Motor Specifications
Originally posted by Curtis Schlaht
Hey guys:
I’m hoping someone here can help me out, I'm looking for rules and guidelines that JMRCA uses for there 23T motor specifications, any help here would be appreciated... I’m Particularly interested in these specs, max wire diameter, min wire length, max timing, compression welded comm tabs only or is braise and soldering permitted, are bushings only allowed, is there a max retail price like ROAR has set for our stock class?EThanks
Curtis Schlaht Jr.
Fukuyama MotorSports
Hey guys:
I’m hoping someone here can help me out, I'm looking for rules and guidelines that JMRCA uses for there 23T motor specifications, any help here would be appreciated... I’m Particularly interested in these specs, max wire diameter, min wire length, max timing, compression welded comm tabs only or is braise and soldering permitted, are bushings only allowed, is there a max retail price like ROAR has set for our stock class?EThanks
Curtis Schlaht Jr.
Fukuyama MotorSports
I`ll be able to answer some of your questions ...but I`ll have to do some research on the other ones
timing is at 20 deg
they have compression welded comm tabs
Bushings only( Yokomo has some awesome low friction ones now)
max price is 4000 Yen
4 arm blanks are available
3mm 6 port(RPM BLANK)
3mm 3 port(TORQUE BLANK)
4mm
5mm
3 comm styles
9mm comm(mid size)
7.6mm comm( small or STD comm )
7.6mm Spiral comm ..
epoxy balancing is leagal so is drilling
As far as the brushes go they "CAN NOT BE SOLDERED ON" eyeor ring terminals only...but you can use double shunt wires
It seems Like Sagami Micro has the Best deal since they make 90% of all the parts for the motors now..
I hope this helps a little
-Dave
Last edited by JDM_DOHC_SiR; 06-26-2004 at 03:30 PM.
#487
Originally posted by JDM_DOHC_SiR
Sorry Pizza.
I have not got around to testing some of the newer Tamiya motors yet
but I can ask around to try one out..
-Dave
Sorry Pizza.
I have not got around to testing some of the newer Tamiya motors yet
but I can ask around to try one out..
-Dave
Ild be most thankfull...
regards,
Pizza
#488
Tech Master
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hey JDM,
mind if i get some more info off you?
i was told by a guy down here that the 23t motors dont mind heat, so he said that you can basically gear em up and up adn up... as long as the comm doesnt discolour???
he just said to not worry about the heat of the motor when it comes off the track, but rather just the colour of the comm and as long as its normal... your fine....
could you expand on this at all??? or is it correct
thanx in advance
robbie
mind if i get some more info off you?
i was told by a guy down here that the 23t motors dont mind heat, so he said that you can basically gear em up and up adn up... as long as the comm doesnt discolour???
he just said to not worry about the heat of the motor when it comes off the track, but rather just the colour of the comm and as long as its normal... your fine....
could you expand on this at all??? or is it correct
thanx in advance
robbie
#490
Tech Champion
iTrader: (31)
Originally posted by xray racer
hey JDM,
mind if i get some more info off you?
i was told by a guy down here that the 23t motors dont mind heat, so he said that you can basically gear em up and up adn up... as long as the comm doesnt discolour???
he just said to not worry about the heat of the motor when it comes off the track, but rather just the colour of the comm and as long as its normal... your fine....
could you expand on this at all??? or is it correct
thanx in advance
robbie
hey JDM,
mind if i get some more info off you?
i was told by a guy down here that the 23t motors dont mind heat, so he said that you can basically gear em up and up adn up... as long as the comm doesnt discolour???
he just said to not worry about the heat of the motor when it comes off the track, but rather just the colour of the comm and as long as its normal... your fine....
could you expand on this at all??? or is it correct
thanx in advance
robbie
as far as gearing goes with thesemotors.. you can gear them buy laptime and temp.... 75-85deg is were I run mine at ..
but take some care when these things get hot!! I have seen some melt endbells..when over geared
-Dave
#491
Tech Champion
iTrader: (31)
Originally posted by xray racer
sorry .... another Q,
generally speaking... are the stand-up brushed 23t motors better than the lay downs???
and could you breifly explain the difference ???
thanx again...
robbie
sorry .... another Q,
generally speaking... are the stand-up brushed 23t motors better than the lay downs???
and could you breifly explain the difference ???
thanx again...
robbie
-Dave
#492
Team TECTRO 23t
Dave,
I bought this Suer Real Stock Team TECTRO motor in Japan last fall and the track owner said it was very fast....it cost a little bit more too. It has a sagami endbell and laydown brushes. Have you tested these and are they any good? What's a good gear ratio for a large track?
Thanks,
Paul
I bought this Suer Real Stock Team TECTRO motor in Japan last fall and the track owner said it was very fast....it cost a little bit more too. It has a sagami endbell and laydown brushes. Have you tested these and are they any good? What's a good gear ratio for a large track?
Thanks,
Paul
#493
Re: Team TECTRO 23t
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#494
Tech Champion
iTrader: (31)
Re: Team TECTRO 23t
Originally posted by P2
Dave,
I bought this Suer Real Stock Team TECTRO motor in Japan last fall and the track owner said it was very fast....it cost a little bit more too. It has a sagami endbell and laydown brushes. Have you tested these and are they any good? What's a good gear ratio for a large track?
Thanks,
Paul
Dave,
I bought this Suer Real Stock Team TECTRO motor in Japan last fall and the track owner said it was very fast....it cost a little bit more too. It has a sagami endbell and laydown brushes. Have you tested these and are they any good? What's a good gear ratio for a large track?
Thanks,
Paul
Torque ver. 5.4~5.6 large track maybe around 5.2 if your track is huge
RPM ver. 5.6~5.9 same size track
-Dave