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Old 07-10-2004, 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by dontfeelcold
so you are crushing the brushoods so that you get alot better contact between the hoods and the brush, any other tricks?
Crushing is such a harsh word ...I`m basicaly shaping it to the size of the brush

since the brush is about 3.8mm wide for Standup brushes...and when you get the motor new most of the hoods are in the 3.95+~4.1mm range there is a little bit of work to be done there..
as far as other tricks...yes there is a bunch more...but I will post some more after some people have tried these and shown gains..
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Old 07-10-2004, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by jedi
Hi Dave! I align my brushes the same way you do except I use a Big Jim alignment bar instead of something similar to the one you use, which I also have or had and lost. Will get back to you on Monday regarding the motors.
I don`t really like the Alignment bar way of doing the hoods ...( opens the bush hood up with a little to much brush play) but if you have to use it ...thats fine. I just like the Kose or Hybrid Stle ones that go over the brush hood
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hey JDM,
i just got my Luna stc-s glory and atlas progress.
the luna came with a spare arm in it... and i had a MVP stock motor so i dropped in the arm and shimmed it in the center... but it doesnt go anywhere near aswell as the actual luna does...

what do i have to do to it??? do i advance timing or decrease or anything

the MVP can is indentical to the luna... without the fancy pink haha

so if you could point me in the right direction with that.... it would be good

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also, i read a few posts before and u said to pull up the tab inside the brush hoods...

what does that do??? does it give more power/rpm or anything???

and how far up should it come? i imagine it would make the brushes hard to push in/out if it were up to far

thanx again
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Originally posted by xray racer
also, i read a few posts before and u said to pull up the tab inside the brush hoods...

what does that do??? does it give more power/rpm or anything???

and how far up should it come? i imagine it would make the brushes hard to push in/out if it were up to far

thanx again
robbie
Buy pulling up the tab your are forcing the brush to ride up against the hood which will allow for better contact. pull the tab up a bit but not to much... but don`t worry after a few runs the tab will go back to normal due to the heat of the motor... I usually rest mine after 2-3 runs
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Originally posted by xray racer
hey JDM,
i just got my Luna stc-s glory and atlas progress.

the MVP can is indentical to the luna... without the fancy pink haha

Are you sure the can is Identical?? take a look at the MVP where the timing tab is at and then take a look at the Luna can were the timing marks is...you will see that the MVP can has a bit more timing...as for the 23T stocks have 20 deg timing and the 27T stocks have 24 deg timing plus the magnets are a bit different in the ( forget which ones..but they hold there magnetic feild better)
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Wink New versions of 23T stocks for 2004

Have a look
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I got a Tamiya Type S, to use in my 2wd Buggy(BK2).

I replaced the bushings with bearings and remove the lock so I could Adjust the timing.

My question is:
What other timing should I start with aside from the standard 24degrees lock timing?

If anyone is using a 23t on their 2wd buggies, what pinion will I use?

Has anyone tried using laydown on the other side and standard brush hoods on the other? What does this do?

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Can anybody say what the difference between these motors are in terms of the way they are built except for the can color and openings? I have a lot of these motors and they all seem to run hot. Anybody have a good brush recommendation?
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Dave,

there are so many 23t motors on the market actually, I would like very much to buy one or two to try.
Which motor do you recommend ?
Should I buy Team Luna, Orion, Yokomo,...
There are so many references, please suggest 2.
What brushes should I buy ?

Thanks for your help.
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Originally posted by Ralf
Dave,

there are so many 23t motors on the market actually, I would like very much to buy one or two to try.
Which motor do you recommend ?
Should I buy Team Luna, Orion, Yokomo,...
There are so many references, please suggest 2.
What brushes should I buy ?

Thanks for your help.
Any of the New Yokomo Based (2004 models) are simply awesome.... Also the newer TOP Based ones are Nice also(Orion's KATANA based motors)... but it seems the 3 port 3mm core ( TQ based Rotor ) Seem to be really good... or the 4mm core 6port Rotor..works well also.
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Originally posted by JDM_DOHC_SiR
Any of the New Yokomo Based (2004 models) are simply awesome.... Also the newer TOP Based ones are Nice also(Orion's KATANA based motors)... but it seems the 3 port 3mm core ( TQ based Rotor ) Seem to be really good... or the 4mm core 6port Rotor..works well also.
-Dave
Hi Dave,

thanks for the info, but I don't know them at all.
Can you be helpful and give the exact model - reference ?
What about the brushes, which one should I buy ?

thanks
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Originally posted by Ralf
Hi Dave,

thanks for the info, but I don't know them at all.
Can you be helpful and give the exact model - reference ?
What about the brushes, which one should I buy ?

thanks
For the Yokomo ones.. here are a few good ones
ST (standup TQ)
SR (standup RPM)
LT (laydown TQ)

For the ORION Katana's
TS(standup TQ)
SS(standup RPM)

and the Brushes that come with the New 2004 models are very good...they don"t need to be changed out
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het Dave.. any ideas on the "new" 23T Tamiya motor spec'd for the TCS nationals? i just wonder what tuning can be done to them. the one for F201 has standups, and sedan GT1 uses laydowns. the site says that they are new motors to be introduced at the finals.
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Originally posted by tamiyadriver
het Dave.. any ideas on the "new" 23T Tamiya motor spec'd for the TCS nationals? i just wonder what tuning can be done to them. the one for F201 has standups, and sedan GT1 uses laydowns. the site says that they are new motors to be introduced at the finals.
The TZ or Standup TQ one is a pretty nice...and the Brushes that come with it..are pretty good... so they really don't need to be changed out .... I have quite a few runs oon this motor now ..and it really has a good ammount of get up and go( for a Tamiya motor )
as Far as the RZ laydown RPM motor... I have only 3 packs on this one.. so it"s still a bit green... but it has a good ammount of RPM..similar to the Yokomo LR
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