the first line pl3 is a fast motor but it is not the to3-t the crank timing on the to3-t is different from the first line and the piston on the to3-t is microcasted the first line is not. But the first line p3l does have more bottomend than the to3-t but the to3-t fx has more top end speed

price for the fx.12 to3-t= $430.00 with ceramic rear bearing= $490.00

first line pl3= $300.00

eagle tl3-t= $540.00 with ceramic rear= $620.00 full ceramic= $680.00

lets be for real the motor is cheaper for a reason it is a very fast motor but it is not the to3-t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a extra eagle tl3-t full ceramic for sale for anyone who wants some real fire then again i will just keep it and i will see you one the straightaway

Don't get me wrong, but anyone who spends $ 680 on a 2.11 cc engine is a damn fool IMHO.

Especially since a $ 300 engine showed in Lisbon, that driving, fuel consumption and strategy is what really counts.

My experience is, that usually the worst drivers always spent the most money on horsepower. Most likely to make up the time they lost in the infield on the back straight.

Keep spending....

the comment was not directed towards you the topic was fx.12 to3-t vs eagle tl3-t .12 vs first line p3l black

And i dont care what motors you buy or choose not to buy that choice is up to you i buy what i want to buy if i want something then i buy it i dont care how expensive these motors get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A motor can allow you to make up alot of time on a big track you dont see any factory guys running any stock motors why you ask because if the the others racers that you are raceing against are as good as you or better than you at driving and they have horsepower you better have it to raceing at 301 raceway!!!!!!!!!!

The first line is pretty fast especially when matched with the JP2620 pipe....

Most people won't even notice the difference in speed between this and the JP top of the line motor... I know there is a difference but for 80% of the racers the first line would be a perfect option of speed at a reasonable price.

Hmm... are you threatened by my max now? lol

lol, I keep hearing about all the engines you guys are breaking in....

I have my JP eagle but i'm just running my rebuilt stock +12ct for this coming race......

You can never go wrong with JP IMO... first line or top of the line but I do recomend getting the first line modified....

Im happy with my decision!! Is coming!!!!
JP P3L modified+JP 2620!!

You won't regret it!!!!!

I allready regret it man...
I gave the order for my motor in christmas for the stock version! After a week i went there to ask what happened with the order,and nothing... The order was not given(new year eve)! I said ok then i want to cancel the stock version and to give the order for the black edition... so far so good!!
A week ago i call the distributor in Greece and he said that the JP didnt sent yet the bill form to be paid...
So far? Im waiting my motor 1 month!!!! i dont know who lies! If is JP i'm so sorry for that!

I was referring to the engine performance when I said you won't be disapointed.... It sounds like you are having a problem with your distributor...

will see mate!!! and damn yes i like that car!!

FYI

http://www.jpracingshop.com/shop/catalog/

The P3LB is out of stock. Available in 3 weeks,that means i get on my hands in over a month and the order was done before christmas....Im allready loosing 2 club events and the answer from JP came today... So the next step is the EAGLE stock...will see...wtf is happening!

Mail this shop: http://www.modelsport.nl/catalog/ind...48_49_51_57_87

It's my local lhs and i know he has p3l black in stock.

Mail adres: [email protected]

I think you will have it faster then waiting for your distributor getting it back in stock