MTC3
#769
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#770
Also over the past couple years the old style of measuring droop / uptravel has been updated. Nothing wrong with the old way but if you are into reading setup sheets, you kind of have to use the same tool that the sheet was taken with.
#773
The old/old way on a TC was with a ride height gauge that had droop steps on the back. I'm sure guys still use those. 1/5mm is common resolution now so a purposed droop gauge was the tool for a long time measuring an arbitrary point on the suspension.
Nowadays most drivers are using a hub mounted reference dongle. It's a little better tasked to measure uptravel and makes the droop/uptravel numbers somewhat applicable between all cars (it is not of course).
Mind you if you are old like me in the old old old days there wasn't a droop limiter. You played with your shock lengths and if you wanted to limit uptravel (didn't really need to back in the day) you used orings. So the process and the method didn't lend itself to 1/5mm measurement, although I'm sure there were guys that tuned to 1/2mm even way back.
Nowadays most drivers are using a hub mounted reference dongle. It's a little better tasked to measure uptravel and makes the droop/uptravel numbers somewhat applicable between all cars (it is not of course).
Mind you if you are old like me in the old old old days there wasn't a droop limiter. You played with your shock lengths and if you wanted to limit uptravel (didn't really need to back in the day) you used orings. So the process and the method didn't lend itself to 1/5mm measurement, although I'm sure there were guys that tuned to 1/2mm even way back.
Last edited by bmwjoon; 11-14-2025 at 09:17 AM.
#774
It makes tuning easier and faster. There are a lot of times when you make a change, lets say with shims, and lose time or forego a change because of a lack of time. Gives you more time to practice and work on other things.
#775
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From: West Chester
Building my first MTC3 and I have an Xray servo saver mounted to a Proteck 160tbl. Using the top hole of the servo saver like it was used in the X4 the linkage hits the top deck. Are you guys moving to the middle hole, or using a different servo saver?
#776
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Joined: Oct 2017
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From: Harrisburg
i’m not using a servo saver. What is the distance between the output shaft center in the center of the hole you are putting the ball in?
#777
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From: West Chester
About 19.5mm.
I went back through this thread and saw a pic of a car with the Xray servo saver. Looking from the front of the car he is using the upper left mounting hole which gives 17mm. This should fix my issue.
I went back through this thread and saw a pic of a car with the Xray servo saver. Looking from the front of the car he is using the upper left mounting hole which gives 17mm. This should fix my issue.
Last edited by Greg Holford; 11-15-2025 at 08:40 AM.
#778
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,296
From: Oxnard, CA
Is everyone running the body mount brackets that attach to the wing mounts or can I just drill holes in the rear bumper and forego them like a normal human being? I have a few bodies I plan on rotating/testing (practice, race, speciale vs regular etc) and don't want to have to buy a ton of body mount kits or take them off and on all the time. Also watched my buddy comically try to put the clips on and off from under and it was not selling it lol. You guys getting more planted rear ends with that thing?
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#780
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Is everyone running the body mount brackets that attach to the wing mounts or can I just drill holes in the rear bumper and forego them like a normal human being? I have a few bodies I plan on rotating/testing (practice, race, speciale vs regular etc) and don't want to have to buy a ton of body mount kits or take them off and on all the time. Also watched my buddy comically try to put the clips on and off from under and it was not selling it lol. You guys getting more planted rear ends with that thing?
I also machined a carbon fiber version, but it's a waste of time and money. It blings of course...
makerworld.com/it/models/2008450-mugen-mtc3-body-support



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