Mini-96 World Challenge
#901
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I've putting in a lot of laps this week and my times have noticeably dropped. I started the month at 499s on the race time, so I feel like I came a long way. Treads are gone on the radial rears and the front are super thin. I'm running out tires lol but they're on order though. I have a tuning question. When changing T-Plates stiffness what characteristics change on the car. Same with the front springs. I have an EVO that I haven't really run much, because I have been more focused on my driving and understanding of the car. If I have time I might do an entry for the EVO this month. The EVO is definitely a faster car but my times on the box stock is faster.
#902
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I've putting in a lot of laps this week and my times have noticeably dropped. I started the month at 499s on the race time, so I feel like I came a long way. Treads are gone on the radial rears and the front are super thin. I'm running out tires lol but they're on order though. I have a tuning question. When changing T-Plates stiffness what characteristics change on the car. Same with the front springs. I have an EVO that I haven't really run much, because I have been more focused on my driving and understanding of the car. If I have time I might do an entry for the EVO this month. The EVO is definitely a faster car but my times on the box stock is faster.
#903
I do the majority of my tuning by feel, I care most about how comfortable the car is to drive. Every track and layout may require a different setup for that feeling, but often a setup that favors stability slightly will be the most consistent over the stint.
on smaller tracks like the mini-96, you need full steering capability. So the main goal in that setup is to offer a front end with good stability into and off the corner, while offering a lot of mid corner steering. Generally, a slightly softer setup than a large circuit is required, and once sorting out the tire, it is getting the spring right. Softer spring will have more pitching and body roll in the corners. Going too soft you will start to lose traction on the opposite end of the car (rear into the corner, and front off the corner). After springs, it's figuring out the damping. Even in a box stock scenario, damping can make the setup more consistent. Grease on the shaft on the center shock, and kingpins can calm an edgier car to become consistent. Damping essentially slows the reaction as the mass transfers f/r and side to side. Too much damping (grease too high viscosity) will slow the transfer too much, and make the mass stay too long at that part of the car beyond where you want it to be. Reverse front kingpin work better with grease than the traditional layout does. Generally, 5-15k grease works well on smaller circuits where you want more body roll, and 15-30k is better for larger circuits. I often start dry, then work my way up.
on smaller tracks like the mini-96, you need full steering capability. So the main goal in that setup is to offer a front end with good stability into and off the corner, while offering a lot of mid corner steering. Generally, a slightly softer setup than a large circuit is required, and once sorting out the tire, it is getting the spring right. Softer spring will have more pitching and body roll in the corners. Going too soft you will start to lose traction on the opposite end of the car (rear into the corner, and front off the corner). After springs, it's figuring out the damping. Even in a box stock scenario, damping can make the setup more consistent. Grease on the shaft on the center shock, and kingpins can calm an edgier car to become consistent. Damping essentially slows the reaction as the mass transfers f/r and side to side. Too much damping (grease too high viscosity) will slow the transfer too much, and make the mass stay too long at that part of the car beyond where you want it to be. Reverse front kingpin work better with grease than the traditional layout does. Generally, 5-15k grease works well on smaller circuits where you want more body roll, and 15-30k is better for larger circuits. I often start dry, then work my way up.
#904
Tech Rookie
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 16
From: Milan, Italy
Aula Boxstock classe
Data-20/05/2020
Location-Milano, Italia
Race Time-310.8
Fastest Lap 3.88
Elettroniche- MR03 ASF
Body-McLaren P1
Wheelbase- 98 millimetri
Tires- Marka V5F25 anteriore, Marka v1R10 posteriore
Motor- Kyosho MZ9P
Batterie- Pn corsa 750
su Springs- PN primavera rosso
T-Plate Kyosho morbido carbonio
Motor Il supporto della norma
ammortizzatore (se applicabile) -
antivibrazioni di fluido (se applicabile) - N / A
Gearing-7t
Notes-

Data-20/05/2020
Location-Milano, Italia
Race Time-310.8
Fastest Lap 3.88
Elettroniche- MR03 ASF
Body-McLaren P1
Wheelbase- 98 millimetri
Tires- Marka V5F25 anteriore, Marka v1R10 posteriore
Motor- Kyosho MZ9P
Batterie- Pn corsa 750
su Springs- PN primavera rosso
T-Plate Kyosho morbido carbonio
Motor Il supporto della norma
ammortizzatore (se applicabile) -
antivibrazioni di fluido (se applicabile) - N / A
Gearing-7t
Notes-

Last edited by MSAN; 05-30-2020 at 06:39 AM.
#905
Tech Rookie
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 16
From: Milan, Italy
Class- Stock class
Date-05/22/2020
Location- Milan, Italy
Race Time- 277.2
Fastest Lap- 3.57
Chassis- MR03 EVO
Body- Honda HSV-010
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- PMarka v5F25 front, Marka v1R10 Rear
Motor- Atomin 3500kv
Batteries- PN 750
Front Springs- green
T-Plate- Pn black fiber glass #4
Motor Mount- MM PN multi mount
Dampener (If applicable)- fiber glass
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing-44/9
Notes-
Date-05/22/2020
Location- Milan, Italy
Race Time- 277.2
Fastest Lap- 3.57
Chassis- MR03 EVO
Body- Honda HSV-010
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- PMarka v5F25 front, Marka v1R10 Rear
Motor- Atomin 3500kv
Batteries- PN 750
Front Springs- green
T-Plate- Pn black fiber glass #4
Motor Mount- MM PN multi mount
Dampener (If applicable)- fiber glass
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing-44/9
Notes-
Last edited by MSAN; 05-27-2020 at 05:08 AM.
#906
Tech Rookie
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 16
From: Milan, Italy
Class- ProStock class 98mm
Date-05/26/2020
Location- Milan, Italy
Race Time- 275.4
Fastest Lap- 3.50
Chassis- MR03 EVO
Body- Audi r8 LMS 2015
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- Pn KSM Soft Front, Marka v1R10 Rear
Motor- kyosho 5600 kv
Batteries- PN racing 750
Front Springs- Kyosho green spring
T-Plate- Kyosho fiber glass 5H
Motor Mount- kyosho MZW310
Dampener (If applicable)- on the side shock grease 5000
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing-44/6
Notes-

Date-05/26/2020
Location- Milan, Italy
Race Time- 275.4
Fastest Lap- 3.50
Chassis- MR03 EVO
Body- Audi r8 LMS 2015
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- Pn KSM Soft Front, Marka v1R10 Rear
Motor- kyosho 5600 kv
Batteries- PN racing 750
Front Springs- Kyosho green spring
T-Plate- Kyosho fiber glass 5H
Motor Mount- kyosho MZW310
Dampener (If applicable)- on the side shock grease 5000
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing-44/6
Notes-

Last edited by MSAN; 05-27-2020 at 03:24 AM.
#907
Tech Rookie
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 16
From: Milan, Italy
Class- ProStock class 102mm
Date-05/26/2020
Location- Milan, Italy
Race Time- 278.4
Fastest Lap- 3.54
Chassis- MR03 EVO
Body- Mazda 787
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- Pn KSM Soft Front, Marka v1R10 Rear
Motor- kyosho 5600 kv
Batteries- PN racing 750
Front Springs- Kyosho redspring
T-Plate- Kyosho carbon soft
Motor Mount- kyosho MZW310
Dampener (If applicable)- on the side shock grease 5000
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing-44/6
Notes-
Date-05/26/2020
Location- Milan, Italy
Race Time- 278.4
Fastest Lap- 3.54
Chassis- MR03 EVO
Body- Mazda 787
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- Pn KSM Soft Front, Marka v1R10 Rear
Motor- kyosho 5600 kv
Batteries- PN racing 750
Front Springs- Kyosho redspring
T-Plate- Kyosho carbon soft
Motor Mount- kyosho MZW310
Dampener (If applicable)- on the side shock grease 5000
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing-44/6
Notes-
Last edited by MSAN; 05-27-2020 at 03:30 AM.
#908
Tech Rookie
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 16
From: Milan, Italy
Class- Open 2wd
Date-05/14/2020
Location- Milan, Italy
Race Time- 278.4
Fastest Lap- 3.44
Chassis- GLR
Body- Audi r8 LMS 2015
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- Pn KSM Soft Front, Marka v1R10 Rear
Motor- gl 3500 kv
Batteries- lipo Gl
Front Springs- blu
T-Plate- tridumper gl red spring on the side, black spring in the center
Motor Mount- tridumper gl
Dampener (If applicable)- on the side shock grease 15K and 30K
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing-53/10
Notes-

Date-05/14/2020
Location- Milan, Italy
Race Time- 278.4
Fastest Lap- 3.44
Chassis- GLR
Body- Audi r8 LMS 2015
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- Pn KSM Soft Front, Marka v1R10 Rear
Motor- gl 3500 kv
Batteries- lipo Gl
Front Springs- blu
T-Plate- tridumper gl red spring on the side, black spring in the center
Motor Mount- tridumper gl
Dampener (If applicable)- on the side shock grease 15K and 30K
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing-53/10
Notes-

Last edited by MSAN; 05-27-2020 at 03:31 AM.
#909
Tech Rookie
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 16
From: Milan, Italy
I wasn't able to run as I wanted, unfortunately once per category, apart from the Lm with which I managed to do two races.
I would have liked to test more, the tmepo is always little ... let's see if I can improve at least the stock. Work, family and commitments do not always leave more space. Thanks to Jim and Marwan for the good work you do in the M96WC.The photos of the machines can be found on the group page on facebook
I would have liked to test more, the tmepo is always little ... let's see if I can improve at least the stock. Work, family and commitments do not always leave more space. Thanks to Jim and Marwan for the good work you do in the M96WC.The photos of the machines can be found on the group page on facebook
Last edited by MSAN; 05-27-2020 at 03:30 AM.
#910
Class- Stock
Date- May 28, 2020
Location- Madison, Wi
Race Time- 385.81
Fastest Lap- 4.50s
Chassis- Kyosho MR-03
Body- Audi R8
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- PN Firm
Motor- White endbell MZ9P
Batteries- 800mah Nimah
Front Springs- Orange
T-Plate- Carbon Stiff
Motor Mount- MM2
Dampener (If applicable)- Disc
Gearing- 7t 64p pinion w/ball diff
Notes- +4 toe bar. Have the stock motor installed so I don't have to run in Super Stock anymore. Car is running more predictably with the harder Tplate and springs. Getting some traction rolling on the fast corners yet and may play around with front/rear balance to see if that helps.
I'm wondering if I take the Disc damper off, would this car qualify for Box Stock?

Stock motor and springs + Tplates


So many mistakes....
Date- May 28, 2020
Location- Madison, Wi
Race Time- 385.81
Fastest Lap- 4.50s
Chassis- Kyosho MR-03
Body- Audi R8
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- PN Firm
Motor- White endbell MZ9P
Batteries- 800mah Nimah
Front Springs- Orange
T-Plate- Carbon Stiff
Motor Mount- MM2
Dampener (If applicable)- Disc
Gearing- 7t 64p pinion w/ball diff
Notes- +4 toe bar. Have the stock motor installed so I don't have to run in Super Stock anymore. Car is running more predictably with the harder Tplate and springs. Getting some traction rolling on the fast corners yet and may play around with front/rear balance to see if that helps.
I'm wondering if I take the Disc damper off, would this car qualify for Box Stock?

Stock motor and springs + Tplates


So many mistakes....
#911
Tech Rookie
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 14
Dati Aula Archivio-
29/05/2020
Località- L'Aquila-Italia
Gara Time- 284.6
Giro veloce 3.57
Elettroniche- kyosho evo
Body-
Interasse Mc
P1- Pneumatici 98- V8-15 V1-R5 anteriore prova
Motor- 3500
Batterie - 750
molle anteriori - Arancione
T-Plate-nero n.2
motore Il supporto della
antivibrazioni (SE APPLICABILE) -
Dampener Fluido (SE APPLICABILE) -
Gearing- 9/53
Per poter arrivare a questo risultato ho fatto moltissime prove sul set-up del modello ma sopratutto mi alleno tantissimo nella guida sul tracciato avrò percorso 100000km questo mese con la mia Minizeta😂
Fonti Manuel (Medo998) Italia
Ciao
non riesco a INSERIRE foto sono su Facebook
29/05/2020
Località- L'Aquila-Italia
Gara Time- 284.6
Giro veloce 3.57
Elettroniche- kyosho evo
Body-
Interasse Mc
P1- Pneumatici 98- V8-15 V1-R5 anteriore prova
Motor- 3500
Batterie - 750
molle anteriori - Arancione
T-Plate-nero n.2
motore Il supporto della
antivibrazioni (SE APPLICABILE) -
Dampener Fluido (SE APPLICABILE) -
Gearing- 9/53
Per poter arrivare a questo risultato ho fatto moltissime prove sul set-up del modello ma sopratutto mi alleno tantissimo nella guida sul tracciato avrò percorso 100000km questo mese con la mia Minizeta😂
Fonti Manuel (Medo998) Italia
Ciao
non riesco a INSERIRE foto sono su Facebook
#912
Class- Stock
Date- May 28, 2020
Location- Madison, Wi
Race Time- 385.81
Fastest Lap- 4.50s
Chassis- Kyosho MR-03
Body- Audi R8
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- PN Firm
Motor- White endbell MZ9P
Batteries- 800mah Nimah
Front Springs- Orange
T-Plate- Carbon Stiff
Motor Mount- MM2
Dampener (If applicable)- Disc
Gearing- 7t 64p pinion w/ball diff
Notes- +4 toe bar. Have the stock motor installed so I don't have to run in Super Stock anymore. Car is running more predictably with the harder Tplate and springs. Getting some traction rolling on the fast corners yet and may play around with front/rear balance to see if that helps.
I'm wondering if I take the Disc damper off, would this car qualify for Box Stock?

Stock motor and springs + Tplates


So many mistakes....
Date- May 28, 2020
Location- Madison, Wi
Race Time- 385.81
Fastest Lap- 4.50s
Chassis- Kyosho MR-03
Body- Audi R8
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- PN Firm
Motor- White endbell MZ9P
Batteries- 800mah Nimah
Front Springs- Orange
T-Plate- Carbon Stiff
Motor Mount- MM2
Dampener (If applicable)- Disc
Gearing- 7t 64p pinion w/ball diff
Notes- +4 toe bar. Have the stock motor installed so I don't have to run in Super Stock anymore. Car is running more predictably with the harder Tplate and springs. Getting some traction rolling on the fast corners yet and may play around with front/rear balance to see if that helps.
I'm wondering if I take the Disc damper off, would this car qualify for Box Stock?

Stock motor and springs + Tplates


So many mistakes....
Cheers,
Jim
#913
Oh yeah I would have to remove the ball diff. It's got the +4 front toe bar also. Not much else is on it, started as an LM car secondhand so I didn't get all the conversion parts with it. Which is why I bought the MM2 pod and ball diff. I've flipped the kingpins in front.
Last edited by tomthegeek; 05-29-2020 at 12:41 PM.
#914
Class - Open F1
Date - April 29, 2020
Location - Madison, WI Basement
Race Time - 358.63
Fastest Lap - 4.09
Chassis - GLF-1 Brass
Body - Stock lexan
Wheelbase - 114mm
Tires - Front: Marka 21
Rear: Marka V9 10
Motor - GL 3500kv sensored
Batteries - GL 330mah LiPo
Front Springs - Yellow
Rear Side Springs - Yellow
Rear Center Spring - Blue
Motor Mount - Stock Aluminum
Dampener Fluid - 3mil silicon oil center shock
Gearing - 10t Pinion, 52t PN limited slip spur
Notes - Roller wing, lexan rear wing
Nearly identical time to last month but hey consistency! Tried running my 98mm GLR tonight but it's got major problems, seems like the rear wheel is lifting and not sure I like the PN Firms in front.

Date - April 29, 2020
Location - Madison, WI Basement
Race Time - 358.63
Fastest Lap - 4.09
Chassis - GLF-1 Brass
Body - Stock lexan
Wheelbase - 114mm
Tires - Front: Marka 21
Rear: Marka V9 10
Motor - GL 3500kv sensored
Batteries - GL 330mah LiPo
Front Springs - Yellow
Rear Side Springs - Yellow
Rear Center Spring - Blue
Motor Mount - Stock Aluminum
Dampener Fluid - 3mil silicon oil center shock
Gearing - 10t Pinion, 52t PN limited slip spur
Notes - Roller wing, lexan rear wing
Nearly identical time to last month but hey consistency! Tried running my 98mm GLR tonight but it's got major problems, seems like the rear wheel is lifting and not sure I like the PN Firms in front.

Last edited by tomthegeek; 05-29-2020 at 09:24 PM. Reason: Title
#915
Tech Initiate
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 40
Class- Box Stock
Date- 5/31/20
Location- Denton, TX
Race Time- 386.5
Fastest Lap- 4.46
Chassis- MR03
Body- Audi R8 2010 LMS
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- Rear Kyosho 20R, Front Kyosho 20S
Motor- Stock
Batteries- EBL 800
Front Springs- PN Red
T-Plate- Kyosho Carbon #1
Motor Mount- MM
Dampener (If applicable)- Stock
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing- 7T Pinion
Notes- Trouble getting used to the higher cornering speeds on this track vs March/April. Looking forward to next month as I should have a little more time to test.
Date- 5/31/20
Location- Denton, TX
Race Time- 386.5
Fastest Lap- 4.46
Chassis- MR03
Body- Audi R8 2010 LMS
Wheelbase- 98mm
Tires- Rear Kyosho 20R, Front Kyosho 20S
Motor- Stock
Batteries- EBL 800
Front Springs- PN Red
T-Plate- Kyosho Carbon #1
Motor Mount- MM
Dampener (If applicable)- Stock
Dampener Fluid (If applicable)- N/A
Gearing- 7T Pinion
Notes- Trouble getting used to the higher cornering speeds on this track vs March/April. Looking forward to next month as I should have a little more time to test.



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