Another thing to be aware of is if any moisture gets around or in the new vts slipper!!! That stainless ring between the pads will develope a tiny bit of rust. If this happens your slipper will lock up regardless of the spring tension!!!

I had this happen last summer. My car went to total junk, so I started looking at the basics... When I went to set the slipper it was really tight... I kept backing it out and out and out til eventually I looked down and the spring wasn't even contacting the plate anymore and it was still tight!!!! The ring had developed some rust on it and stuck till the pads...

Just something everyone should be conscious of!

I asked for your explanation the very first time I quoted your statement...I asked again 3 other times as well. So for the 5th time, how exactly does the slipper effect OFF power STEERING.

I understand your extremely generalized statement of "racers with handling issues have their slipper locked" and I agree that a locked slipper creates issues....but we are talking about 1 very specific situation during a turn. Off power traction while turning. Off power means NO THROTTLE. the slipper only functions when the motor is accelerating, or decelerating, UNDER POWER. (the motor is the driving force that makes the slipper function in the first place...hence being connected to the motor via pinion/spur) when the motor is in a neutral state (freewheeling) and the car is rolling (off power turning) then the motor is not inducing any resistance to make the slipper slip.

So again, explain to me how the slipper effects OFF-power turning?

could the motor's natural drag be a factor at all potentially?

To me at least, that is about the only thing I can think of he could be referring to.

I thought if you had drag brake set that the motor never really hits a free state as you then have on throttle, off throttle and constant power applied for drag brake which would cause your car to always use the slipper? Maybe I'm wrong but that was my thoughts.

at least until 17.5t motor, slipper is completely useless with that power level.
so, if it's just lift off and no power, no brake, slipper won't have any effect.

drag break only works at neutral. It does nothing when braking or accelerating.

and drag brake is only a few % of full brake....if your slipper is slipping under drag brake....you've got more issues than a little off-power push lol.

Im pretty positive i've got a firm understanding of whats going on (slipper has no effect on off-power turning)....unless there is some other kind of magic going on here that I can't wrap my head around lol.

what if the slipper were soooo loose that it had zero friction on the pads thus when you let off it rolled more free than normal and didnt allow the car to setup correctly for the corner... what now smarty pants

Said a few statement back, off power steering issues would be more diff related especially if diff was too tight would tend to push off in 2wd.

I have never heard the fast guys at my LHS talk about slipper with off power steering, only tires, shocks, and diff. To me slipper has to do more with on power acceleration and take offs.

My Question on slipper and 17.5 Reedy Mach2? Just started in this class and would a tighter slipper be a big positive? On power would not give as much torque and break things as easily as a mod motor, my thought is a tighter slipper would give me faster on power and snappy take offs? Drawbacks? Your help is appreciated. Raced it last night and I am sportsman in pro class but it is the only buggy class and want to get better, 13.5 sportsman no longer .

omg i'm in tears reading this.....

sportsman in a pro class, I imagine that is a lot of fun. Well recently I was talking to a sponsored guy. And he explained it like this, if you wheel slip then you will have less run up speed to a jump. Plus tire wear goes way up and motor heat goes up. You obviously dont want it slipping 4 feet. I dont see how it being locked up or completely loose would be useful. Its a tuning thing. Adjust your slipper take a few laps, loosen or tighten and run a few more. find the spot you like. you can also use punch control to help with wheel spin also. Like most things in RC there are trade off and more than one way to skin a cat.

don't need slipper setup in 17.5t. just tighten it to the max.
if you set the slipper loose, the head won't lift up during the slipper test.
if you set the slipper tight, the head can barely lift up slowly, but slipper didn't even kick in, the motor barely have the torque to lift the nose up, and it's actually skipping/slipping it self inside the motor itself.
*remember people run a lot of motor timing with 17.5t motor, with the aggressive gear ratio, it just doesn't use slipper.

Really? my 17.5 could lift the front end up pretty easily

yeah, so can mine. different motors I guess.

My 17.5 motor wouldn't lift the front at first either. But when I started giving the trigger more of a gradual pulse instead of just squeezing trigger quickly, the front of the car starting lifting as many have described slipper testing.

When I would do slipper test and pull trigger quickly the slipper would only slip and car wouldn't pop up in front. Seems to work fine now.