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Old 10-08-2012 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by beyondthepack
Wow still lots of negativity on this truck. The truck performs really well up here. Anyway my question is the new FLOW esc from LRP, do you think it will be strong enough to run this truck? I'm selling my RX8 (awesome esc BTW) because I need a esc that is good with a TC for indoor season and 4WD SC for outdoor season. Any comments would be appreciated



Try to ignore the negativity !!!


Fact is the Sc10 is the Roar National Champion after all is said .


The Lrp Flow or the SXX V2 performs great in a 4x4 SC truck , just remember to use the fan included .
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Cain , good news ,you just
learned toe out improves tracking & stability on the straights ....
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Old 10-08-2012 | 08:38 AM
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Welp, time for me to move on and put my SC10 4x4 up for sale. I plan to keep reading/posting/helping in this thread as I really enjoyed my truck, but with my converted SCT dialed in and an official Caster SCT in the mail for testing I need the electronics from my SC10.
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Old 10-08-2012 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Krio
Welp, time for me to move on and put my SC10 4x4 up for sale. I plan to keep reading/posting/helping in this thread as I really enjoyed my truck, but with my converted SCT dialed in and an official Caster SCT in the mail for testing I need the electronics from my SC10.
I know you will be back soon .....


Lots of stuff coming .....
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Old 10-08-2012 | 08:52 AM
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KODY

You can make the out drive cups fit tight , but then your diff action will suffer .

A little oil leaking is normal , replace the O-ring seals
for a improvement if necessary....
A bit yes, but a diff-filling per day no! The worst is: i can't test it more than 1 day, because the race is this week. My only chance is to use the bearings with metal-seals from the idler-gear. Even the diffs without bearingmod from a friend dont leak as much as mine.
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Old 10-08-2012 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cody227
A bit yes, but a diff-filling per day no! The worst is: i can't test it more than 1 day, because the race is this week. My only chance is to use the bearings with metal-seals from the idler-gear. Even the diffs without bearingmod from a friend dont leak as much as mine.
I ended up experimenting with grease instead of fluid for a while to minimize maintenance and it worked remarkably well. In the rear I would run the diff 2/3 filled with AE black grease and the front diff was also 2/3 full, but a 50/50 mix of racers edge heavy duty diff grease and AE black grease. This made the car feel very close to 10k/5k front/rear and it would never leak. You don't want to pack the diff full, or it can lock up. Just enough so that the centripital force keeps the spider gears mostly submerged. This was with the center diff, so if you are running the standard slipper you might fare well with straight up Racers Edge grease in the front to get close to a 30k feel.
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Give your truck a little toe out , this will improved its stability on
the straights ...
Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Cain , good news ,you just
learned toe out improves tracking & stability on the straights ....
Unfortunately WC, looks like its opposite day by you, unless you mean give your truck less toe out versus a little toe out as you said, you will not improve tracking / stability on the straights.

Or, as has been described here:

http://www.competitionx.com/rc-racin...oe-in-toe-out/

Front:
Adding Toe In will decrease steering into a corner, but add steering out of a corner during acceleration. Toe In will also stabilize the car under acceleration. Toe Out will increase steering into a corner, but cause the car to wander a little on the straights and in bumpy sections.
I am assuming that wander is NOT the effect that the OP desires which "giving your truck a little toe-out" will induce.

But regardless, for those curious which way to go if you feel both of us and the various guides on the net are full of it, give it a try both ways and report back ... Best way to confirm which is right is to give it a try and see.

Sorry to see you go Krio. You still going to be selling SC10 4x4 parts?

Cody - When you do your rebuild, are you using the black grease or similar around places where the oil can leak?
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:10 AM
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Cain , from experience I know .....

Good luck , BTW at your track the straight is not fast or long enough to even add toe out....
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:13 AM
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There is silicone diff greas you can buy rather than using black grease. It's good stuff
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:18 AM
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I posted an image of a setup i used for our very low traction stuff out here. You may find it to be useful for you. If you can't find it, let me know.

bear in mind, it uses the M2C toe in blocks, RC Shox pistons, and Center Diff. The item I would think at a minimum you will want is the M2C toe in blocks as that will give you the rear traction you need in my opinion, or something else that addes more toe in to the rear than stock 3 degrees.

Hey just a quick question about the m2c block. What is the minimum and max toe amounts possible And by what increments can you adjust by?
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cain
Cody - When you do your rebuild, are you using the black grease or similar around places where the oil can leak?
I use greenslime on the red o-rings, AE black-grease on metal-parts like the outdrive and the bearings and hylomar on the paper-sealing. (it's kind of a sealant, you can see it on the pics. http://www.hylomar.com/) I also have the white diff lube from AE, but i think it's for ball-diffs, isn't it?
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Cain , from experience I know .....

Good luck , BTW at your track the straight is not fast or long enough to even add toe out....
Same here WC and I am assuming from experience those guides were written as such as well ... and just an FYI my experience concerning the toe-in / out setting comes from tracks small (50ft or less) and up to around 200+ or more ft straights with a variety of vehicles from tracks out east as well as here.

So unless the SC10 4x4 suddenly responds totally different to general toe settings, all else being the same, that other 2wd, 4wd, etc 1/10 thru 1/8 vehicles, (which, from the rear toe in perspective, has behaved as I would expect on the track based on what a variety of guides say when using the M2C blocks) should work out essentially the same.

But, again, for those on the fence on what to believe, give it a try and report back. Nothing wrong with coming to your own conclusions and its something free to check.
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:26 AM
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Cain , the suggestion I gave is a good one to try .

Long straights with high speed is where it helps most ...
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtbikekid33
I'm at the point where I have my truck as good as I can get it, unfortunately I run a 1/8 track that is wide 12 foot wide lanes and is almost all straights. I can own any losi on the corners but any straight the car is so unstable at high speeds I can not go flat out like the losi. Don't get me wrong I love this truck but wish I lived closer to a tight indoor track or even a tighter outdoor where this car shines. Not giving up its just poor me vs 18-20 losi it will be nice to beat them someday.
I had this problem befor then I changed to mip pistons and center diff and I can run with the 1/8 cars my setup is posted
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by associatevalley
Hey just a quick question about the m2c block. What is the minimum and max toe amounts possible And by what increments can you adjust by?
I believe max is 3.5 toe in, as for minimum, I think its 2.5 degrees (have to look and confirm). From what the manual says, it can be adjusted in .25 increments.

I am very curious to see how the lower toe settings can potentially help on the tight indoor track I plan to run it on.


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Cain , the suggestion I gave is a good one to try .

Long straights with high speed is where it helps most ...
Yup, I believe you believe that. As I said for the OP or anyone else, give both a try and see what you think, and report back. Who knows, maybe it works and contradicts what those guides are saying, maybe it doesn't.

Kind of like the +8mm mod. Best way to see what it does it to try it.
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Old 10-08-2012 | 09:36 AM
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Cain , you can go by that set-up advise you like .
I still will be using the advise from my Teammates from Ae ...
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