Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree5Likes

SC10 4x4 Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-29-2012 | 10:58 AM
  #28951  
Wildcat1971's Avatar
Tech Prophet
iTrader: (84)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 17,389
From: Arizona
Default

"In general, longer links make the car more calm, and gives it more traction, and actually even improves forward bite. Having the links as far in on the shock towers as possible, makes for the most stable car. Raising the link on the tower, has a similar effect of lengthening it, in that it gives more traction."

so yeah, raising the inside increases traction, so 8mm outside and 5mm inside would be less traction no? Why do so many setups say 0 inside? I would think you would want 4-5 inside with no 8mm mod to make it less twitchy.
Wildcat1971 is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 11:07 AM
  #28952  
Wild Cherry's Avatar
Tech Legend
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 22,595
From: TRCR Modified Driver
Default

Originally Posted by fq06
Loose I guess.
8mm mod with 5 spacers on the inside link is like having a negative 3 inside spacer count on the regular hub. Haven't seen the 8mm mod discussion lately but the norm is 7mm spacers right?

Haven't tried the 8mm mod, I use 1 to 2 spacers in the rear depending on the track... no mod... I'm the opposite of that.
I like the rear traction high and just monitor entrance speed to match the traction and drive out of the turn with (in my opinion) a high exit speed.


8mm mod

5 mm under ball stud on rear tower = more traction

7mm = less traction
Wild Cherry is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 11:10 AM
  #28953  
JEFFs SC10's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,044
From: Orlandooooo, Fl
Default

8mm mod is for HIGH BITE only to prevent traction roll.

It's not for low-med grip conditions.

put 5-6mm under rear ball stud and you should be able to come off corners better
JEFFs SC10 is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 11:42 AM
  #28954  
CraigMBA's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,838
From: Valley of the Dirt, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Wildcat1971

Are the 1.3 pistons bigger than the 1.1s?
Yes.

Last time he refused to drive my truck after one lap stating my radio was so bad, that he was afraid he would break my truck. So..... i got rid of my flysky, lol. The receiver was bad and it was glitching hard, lol.
I wonder if there are your three laps right there.

Off topic - I trust nothing I read on the Internet unless I can independently prove it myself. Even if I wrote it.

I'm going to be taking a break from off road for a few weeks so I can concentrate on the Kimbrough 4:00 this weekend and the IITC in Vegas at the end of next month.
CraigMBA is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 11:58 AM
  #28955  
Jake S's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (67)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,833
From: Erie PA
Default

http://blog.jconcepts.net/wp-content...-off_800px.jpg

i wonder if jconcepts will offer the "maifield extended hi-flow wing" lol
Jake S is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 12:28 PM
  #28956  
fq06's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,646
From: Los Angeles
Default

Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
8mm mod

5 mm under ball stud on rear tower = more traction

7mm = less traction
I guess the length of the camber rod is affecting this, but I run middle hole on hub (no mod) and one washer under inner ball stud and if I need a little more traction I go to two washers. I even run the 3.5° hub for additional bite in the rear compared to stock 3°.

Raise ball stud, more traction per the manual and my seat of the pants experience. Higher ball stud = more chassis roll per AE.

But thats the opposite of what you are saying above...
fq06 is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 01:34 PM
  #28957  
Wildcat1971's Avatar
Tech Prophet
iTrader: (84)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 17,389
From: Arizona
Default

camber links are going to be my doom. Ok, so if my 4x4 is loose on a medium bite track, I want a longer link and maybe some washers inside, but i do not want the 8mm mod.


oh, hey, maifields setup for nats is up, just noticed.
Wildcat1971 is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 01:43 PM
  #28958  
Wildcat1971's Avatar
Tech Prophet
iTrader: (84)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 17,389
From: Arizona
Default

ok, I was looking at Maifields setup. he calls the track medium bite and cav calls it high bite. I am not sure his tires are for medium bite. IMO Double Dee's are medium bite. I did notice not 8mm mod though and the low amount of up travel limiters plus the ends unscrewed seems like the ball cups would be an issue.
Wildcat1971 is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 01:47 PM
  #28959  
ilanstylz's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (142)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,615
From: SOCAL
Default

Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
ok, I was looking at Maifields setup. he calls the track medium bite and cav calls it high bite. I am not sure his tires are for medium bite. IMO Double Dee's are medium bite. I did notice not 8mm mod though and the low amount of up travel limiters plus the ends unscrewed seems like the ball cups would be an issue.
I've been to WCRC and to me the track is more of a high bite clay track and gold barcodes work great there the last time I ran there, so could have been a typo on AE's end of his setup not sure............
ilanstylz is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 01:47 PM
  #28960  
Tech Master
iTrader: (120)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,076
From: SoCal - Chillin in the LBC
Default

Originally Posted by Wildcat1971


oh, hey, maifields setup for nats is up, just noticed.
Here's a link:

http://www.teamassociated.com/setupsheets/SC10_4x4/
jamr1130 is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 01:49 PM
  #28961  
Cain's Avatar
Tech Legend
iTrader: (304)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 35,029
From: West Fargo, North Dakota
Default

anyone got some pics of how they do the fan mod over the motor? Lost the ones I had and want to give it a try for the next race.
Cain is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 01:51 PM
  #28962  
Tech Master
iTrader: (120)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,076
From: SoCal - Chillin in the LBC
Default

Originally Posted by ilanstylz
I've been to WCRC and to me the track is more of a high bite clay track and gold barcodes work great there the last time I ran there, so could have been a typo on AE's end of his setup not sure............
WCRC is high bite so Barcodes in gold or Suburbs MC all day long. Some people try other tires and compounds but always seem to end up with these.
jamr1130 is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 01:55 PM
  #28963  
Wildcat1971's Avatar
Tech Prophet
iTrader: (84)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 17,389
From: Arizona
Default

I read it wrong, says high bite track. ok. So if I were for a medium bite track, I would take his setup and raise the rear ball stud and maybe go b hole on the rear hub?


He has 60g under the slipper? jesus, does he run a gear cover, lol. I am not sure I could get that much there.


What is a "steel diff insert" list in the setup?

Also, I have no idea what stop gap button head screw is. never even say anyone use stop gap before.

Last edited by Wildcat1971; 08-29-2012 at 02:12 PM.
Wildcat1971 is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 02:31 PM
  #28964  
Jake S's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (67)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,833
From: Erie PA
Default

Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
He has 60g under the slipper? jesus, does he run a gear cover, lol. I am not sure I could get that much there.
seems like ALOT of weight to have there, i thought it was alot when i put 40g on each side of the servo. wonder if its supposed to be 6.0g lol.

Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
What is a "steel diff insert" list in the setup?
maybe similar to what they did to the sc10 gear diff.


normal sc104x4 diff. asc91005


updated sc10 2wd diff. asc9828

Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
Also, I have no idea what stop gap button head screw is.
its the hole on your front hub located towards the outside-back of the hub, it limits max throw of steering due to ackerman, i always have just ran a button head screw in there, nice to see it listed on a setup that way, i always thought that was 0mm, guess its technically .5mm.
Jake S is offline  
Old 08-29-2012 | 02:35 PM
  #28965  
fq06's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,646
From: Los Angeles
Default

Originally Posted by ilanstylz
I've been to WCRC and to me the track is more of a high bite clay track and gold barcodes work great there the last time I ran there, so could have been a typo on AE's end of his setup not sure............
Yeah, gold barcodes are the tires for SCT at that track.
fq06 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.