SC10 4x4 Thread
@ Marcus
yea man I heard they are fragile, a guy here was running one and liked it (when it was not broken) but got rid of it cause he was tired of fixing it all the time LOL. That gets old pretty quick..
I think every Shortcourse truck has its flaws but as far as reliability and durability the AE is pretty tough. And now that we figured out good setups, this truck is a keeper and I'm keeping mine for a while.
Short course trucks have to be tough, period. These trucks take a beating.
Cornerweighting? LMAO.
An OASIS , it's ok to disagree or not agree with Marcus, that's your opinion, however when you are bashing his business and tarnishing his reputation that's another story.
This is the way he feeds and supports his family. His stuff works and he always offers to return your money and/or get you a replacement product if you're not happy.
yea man I heard they are fragile, a guy here was running one and liked it (when it was not broken) but got rid of it cause he was tired of fixing it all the time LOL. That gets old pretty quick..
I think every Shortcourse truck has its flaws but as far as reliability and durability the AE is pretty tough. And now that we figured out good setups, this truck is a keeper and I'm keeping mine for a while.
Short course trucks have to be tough, period. These trucks take a beating.
Cornerweighting? LMAO.
An OASIS , it's ok to disagree or not agree with Marcus, that's your opinion, however when you are bashing his business and tarnishing his reputation that's another story.
This is the way he feeds and supports his family. His stuff works and he always offers to return your money and/or get you a replacement product if you're not happy.
Going up in front diff fluid will give you less turn in so you dont want to do that, before doing anything drastic play with your front end alignment, try some toe out and lower the front Ride height a MM or two. With the V2 dif you dont need to flip the hat spacer, i fixed that issue with the thrust bearing assembly
My truck is loaded with RCShox products and the only place I feel my truck does not have complete advantage over everyone else is the first 3 feet off the start. I run a 5.5 2 pole 540 motor so others have more power from a stop. After that I check out. I have posted my lap times for you all to see and the truck is very easy and consistent to drive. At the local out door track I am the only truck that has made it into the 18 lap times; that is in the 4w buggy lap times on this track. I have not experienced any failures and I have had my diff almost as long as Mantis.
. Anything is possible under different conditions and so far I think Marcus has stepped up for all those that did have problems.
If you are having trouble with the center diff try pinning the diff plates. Most of the spring pressure is to keep the plates from slipping on the slipper plates. Two very hard surfaces do not take a lot to slip. You will not need to crank the nut down with the plates pinned. The AE diff grease does it's job to keep the balls from slipping.
I have been testing o-ring seal for the center diff (my own design) and it seems to be holding up very well. Grease stays in dirt stays out, and the gear runs true.
Not sure about making this yet for others.
I also have come up with a hardened steel bushing for the diff out drives. I need more testing time with this idea but I can tell you there is zero slop and you still have the full support of the out drive bearings.
. Anything is possible under different conditions and so far I think Marcus has stepped up for all those that did have problems.If you are having trouble with the center diff try pinning the diff plates. Most of the spring pressure is to keep the plates from slipping on the slipper plates. Two very hard surfaces do not take a lot to slip. You will not need to crank the nut down with the plates pinned. The AE diff grease does it's job to keep the balls from slipping.
I have been testing o-ring seal for the center diff (my own design) and it seems to be holding up very well. Grease stays in dirt stays out, and the gear runs true.
Not sure about making this yet for others. I also have come up with a hardened steel bushing for the diff out drives. I need more testing time with this idea but I can tell you there is zero slop and you still have the full support of the out drive bearings.
An OASIS , it's ok to disagree or not agree with Marcus, that's your opinion, however when you are bashing his business and tarnishing his reputation that's another story.
This is the way he feeds and supports his family. His stuff works and he always offers to return your money and/or get you a replacement product if you're not happy.
This is the way he feeds and supports his family. His stuff works and he always offers to return your money and/or get you a replacement product if you're not happy.
Sh*t gets said. It's the creators job to fix it, or ignore it. Marcus isn't some RC Saint. He's got bad customers and customers have taken him for a bad product. It's time to get over it and move on. It's his opinion, take it as that and don't contradict the statements by then saying the 'opinion' is not ok.
This is the same thing that happened when I wanted to use a little thicker shock oil with the pistons. EXPLOSION in my face. (Now, people are using 2.5-5wt thicker oil with or without drilled pistons... Hmmm.) With all the AE bashing going on in this thread over the last 1600pages, Why aren't we telling them to settle down and that it isn't ok? That's how they feed their families. Marcus is no special case.
Seriously, I use RCSHOX Ackbar, V2 C-diff, Dual stage on my Sc10 4x4. I love the product. I'm just getting tired of this army effect in defending a Product's valor. Get over it guys. He's got Advertisements now for god's sake. He's not Joe Shmoe anymore! And with that, Congrats Marcus!
Oasis stated his opinion of Marcus' products. Have you ever looked at a Movie rating forum? A Comcast Cable thread? A AE hate thread for their new platform? In my honest opinion, Oasis did no tarnishing and/or bashing. He stated he didn't think they worked as illustrated. Oh man... Vicious!
Sh*t gets said. It's the creators job to fix it, or ignore it. Marcus isn't some RC Saint. He's got bad customers and customers have taken him for a bad product. It's time to get over it and move on. It's his opinion, take it as that and don't contradict the statements by then saying the 'opinion' is not ok.
This is the same thing that happened when I wanted to use a little thicker shock oil with the pistons. EXPLOSION in my face. (Now, people are using 2.5-5wt thicker oil with or without drilled pistons... Hmmm.) With all the AE bashing going on in this thread over the last 1600pages, Why aren't we
telling them to settle down and that it isn't ok? That's how they feed their families. Marcus is no special case.
Seriously, I use RCSHOX Ackbar, V2 C-diff, Dual stage on my Sc10 4x4. I love the product. I'm just getting tired of this army effect in defending a Product's valor. Get over it guys. He's got Advertisements now for god's sake. He's not Joe Shmoe anymore! And with that, Congrats Marcus!
Sh*t gets said. It's the creators job to fix it, or ignore it. Marcus isn't some RC Saint. He's got bad customers and customers have taken him for a bad product. It's time to get over it and move on. It's his opinion, take it as that and don't contradict the statements by then saying the 'opinion' is not ok.
This is the same thing that happened when I wanted to use a little thicker shock oil with the pistons. EXPLOSION in my face. (Now, people are using 2.5-5wt thicker oil with or without drilled pistons... Hmmm.) With all the AE bashing going on in this thread over the last 1600pages, Why aren't we
telling them to settle down and that it isn't ok? That's how they feed their families. Marcus is no special case.
Seriously, I use RCSHOX Ackbar, V2 C-diff, Dual stage on my Sc10 4x4. I love the product. I'm just getting tired of this army effect in defending a Product's valor. Get over it guys. He's got Advertisements now for god's sake. He's not Joe Shmoe anymore! And with that, Congrats Marcus!
Oasis stated his opinion of Marcus' products. Have you ever looked at a Movie rating forum? A Comcast Cable thread? A AE hate thread for their new platform? In my honest opinion, Oasis did no tarnishing and/or bashing. He stated he didn't think they worked as illustrated. Oh man... Vicious!
Sh*t gets said. It's the creators job to fix it, or ignore it. Marcus isn't some RC Saint. He's got bad customers and customers have taken him for a bad product. It's time to get over it and move on. It's his opinion, take it as that and don't contradict the statements by then saying the 'opinion' is not ok.
This is the same thing that happened when I wanted to use a little thicker shock oil with the pistons. EXPLOSION in my face. (Now, people are using 2.5-5wt thicker oil with or without drilled pistons... Hmmm.) With all the AE bashing going on in this thread over the last 1600pages, Why aren't we telling them to settle down and that it isn't ok? That's how they feed their families. Marcus is no special case.
Seriously, I use RCSHOX Ackbar, V2 C-diff, Dual stage on my Sc10 4x4. I love the product. I'm just getting tired of this army effect in defending a Product's valor. Get over it guys. He's got Advertisements now for god's sake. He's not Joe Shmoe anymore! And with that, Congrats Marcus!
Sh*t gets said. It's the creators job to fix it, or ignore it. Marcus isn't some RC Saint. He's got bad customers and customers have taken him for a bad product. It's time to get over it and move on. It's his opinion, take it as that and don't contradict the statements by then saying the 'opinion' is not ok.
This is the same thing that happened when I wanted to use a little thicker shock oil with the pistons. EXPLOSION in my face. (Now, people are using 2.5-5wt thicker oil with or without drilled pistons... Hmmm.) With all the AE bashing going on in this thread over the last 1600pages, Why aren't we telling them to settle down and that it isn't ok? That's how they feed their families. Marcus is no special case.
Seriously, I use RCSHOX Ackbar, V2 C-diff, Dual stage on my Sc10 4x4. I love the product. I'm just getting tired of this army effect in defending a Product's valor. Get over it guys. He's got Advertisements now for god's sake. He's not Joe Shmoe anymore! And with that, Congrats Marcus!
Well said(except for the first part), and thank you! BTW V2 pistons were designed to use thicker oils, the V1's were not. After we had our tif, I thought about it and made a change so it all worked out in the end. As bull headed as some think you are, you really are not. Internet is 2D and a lot is lost in translation, You just like me dont take or give BS and to most that is taken as an abrasive attitude. Sometimes ya just gotta take a deap breath step back and let the fools be fools
I leave myself vulnerable because i am active on the forums, this is a good thing but can sometimes (as we have all seen) can be bad. In the end most know that if you come at me with respect, thats exactly what you will get back. You corner a dog and you will get bit!
Thanks to the guys who suggested I take a look at the motor mount and how it sits in the chassis to solve my bent tunnel problem. I got to the track this morning and just stared at the motor mount asking myself "how the effffff did you miss this, moron?"
I also tried the "+8" mod...kinda... Right after the straight we have a high speed right hand sweeper with two "whoop" type obsticles about 4 feet apart, into another right hand turn with a triple off of it. I kept barreling into the turn wot with no problems, until I caught the inside line and would traction roll. I bought the integy spacer set with 1mm, 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm 3mm, 3.5mm and 4mm spacers in it. I put on 5.5mm of shims and it worked pretty well. If i'm correct, I need to do the opposite side, with carbon parts off of a b4.1, correct?
Lastly, while I was there on saturday I must have bought the last diff rebuild kit they have. I called 8 other hobby stores in my area and NOBODY has one I need to rebuild my front diff and add the shim. So, I ask a favor. Does ANYONE have a diff rebuild kit, or even shims they'd be willing to sell me? I have a race coming up this weekend and would much rather not have the possibility of something failing. Feel free to PM me if you wanna help a brotha out!
I also tried the "+8" mod...kinda... Right after the straight we have a high speed right hand sweeper with two "whoop" type obsticles about 4 feet apart, into another right hand turn with a triple off of it. I kept barreling into the turn wot with no problems, until I caught the inside line and would traction roll. I bought the integy spacer set with 1mm, 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm 3mm, 3.5mm and 4mm spacers in it. I put on 5.5mm of shims and it worked pretty well. If i'm correct, I need to do the opposite side, with carbon parts off of a b4.1, correct?
Lastly, while I was there on saturday I must have bought the last diff rebuild kit they have. I called 8 other hobby stores in my area and NOBODY has one I need to rebuild my front diff and add the shim. So, I ask a favor. Does ANYONE have a diff rebuild kit, or even shims they'd be willing to sell me? I have a race coming up this weekend and would much rather not have the possibility of something failing. Feel free to PM me if you wanna help a brotha out!
This! My God, this!
I already saw the following post suggesting the center diff. It would also be great to hear other opinions that include keeping the VTS. Also (and I know I am asking a lot, now) it would be great if an experienced driver could explain a couple of possible causes for the slippery back end. If I have a better understanding of the problem, I would have a better chance of trying to come up with a solution or two on my own.
I already saw the following post suggesting the center diff. It would also be great to hear other opinions that include keeping the VTS. Also (and I know I am asking a lot, now) it would be great if an experienced driver could explain a couple of possible causes for the slippery back end. If I have a better understanding of the problem, I would have a better chance of trying to come up with a solution or two on my own.
Many things could be the reason for the lack of traction .
Tires & basic set-up for instance ....
Can only blame the slipper if not adjusted correctly or locked up .
VTS slipper is what the Ae factory drivers use & same for me ..
Smooth performance & traction is all it brings to the Sc10 4x4...
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Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 92
From: Northern Arizona
So after doing a bit of running around away from the track I noticed that my Pro4 was sounding and feeling a bit gritty. After disassembling sure enough it was filled with dirt. Luckily it does not appear as though there is any damage so after some TLC it is back together. I have spun the motor so the tabs and the open slot associated with them is facing the rear of the truck in hopes that it will help. Anyone else had this problem and what they have done to try and fix it? I am thinking about a small bead of silicon along the slot but do not know if that is there for airflow purposes. Thoughts?



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