RC10B4.1 FT/WC
01-24-2012 | 04:19 PM
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Posts: 1,727
From: Wisconsin
The avid steering rack removes any worry of breakage of the steering rack, other then that it does not have any functional improvement over the glued normal rack.
01-24-2012 | 04:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,616
From: New Jersey
My track is VERY VERY rough. It's basically outdoor material inside (not your typical clay indoor track) and the 8th scales tear it a new one.
I know 2 local AE drivers are running AE springs and ripped us a new one this past weekend. I think I'm actually the only one who was using BB springs now that you mention it LOL. I'm gonna switch back and just see if it was all in my head or if they do work better for me.
01-24-2012 | 05:02 PM
Not a stab at anyone or anything suggested anywhere, just an observation here.
All these minute adjustments that I'm reading about here, surely these are to only benefit those who are really on top of their game already who are micro tuning for that extra poofteenth of a second here? Taking a degree widget there and adding a ballast here and taking a washer off that front ball stud is not going to help that much. I know all changes are done for a reason, but I would think its more for major ragers, not so much the average runners. Everyone wants the advantage, and I guess all the little changes as to a bigger and better car. But its the person behind the controller that really does the work, he's the one that needs the talent, and if you don't have the talent, the adjustments probably aren't going to help. In saying this, I'm an ok driver, but can't say I'd be any better off doing ALL the mods that im reading about. Different horses for courses I guess.
Cheers
All these minute adjustments that I'm reading about here, surely these are to only benefit those who are really on top of their game already who are micro tuning for that extra poofteenth of a second here? Taking a degree widget there and adding a ballast here and taking a washer off that front ball stud is not going to help that much. I know all changes are done for a reason, but I would think its more for major ragers, not so much the average runners. Everyone wants the advantage, and I guess all the little changes as to a bigger and better car. But its the person behind the controller that really does the work, he's the one that needs the talent, and if you don't have the talent, the adjustments probably aren't going to help. In saying this, I'm an ok driver, but can't say I'd be any better off doing ALL the mods that im reading about. Different horses for courses I guess.
Cheers
01-24-2012 | 05:40 PM
Not a stab at anyone or anything suggested anywhere, just an observation here.
All these minute adjustments that I'm reading about here, surely these are to only benefit those who are really on top of their game already who are micro tuning for that extra poofteenth of a second here? Taking a degree widget there and adding a ballast here and taking a washer off that front ball stud is not going to help that much. I know all changes are done for a reason, but I would think its more for major ragers, not so much the average runners. Everyone wants the advantage, and I guess all the little changes as to a bigger and better car. But its the person behind the controller that really does the work, he's the one that needs the talent, and if you don't have the talent, the adjustments probably aren't going to help. In saying this, I'm an ok driver, but can't say I'd be any better off doing ALL the mods that im reading about. Different horses for courses I guess.
Cheers
All these minute adjustments that I'm reading about here, surely these are to only benefit those who are really on top of their game already who are micro tuning for that extra poofteenth of a second here? Taking a degree widget there and adding a ballast here and taking a washer off that front ball stud is not going to help that much. I know all changes are done for a reason, but I would think its more for major ragers, not so much the average runners. Everyone wants the advantage, and I guess all the little changes as to a bigger and better car. But its the person behind the controller that really does the work, he's the one that needs the talent, and if you don't have the talent, the adjustments probably aren't going to help. In saying this, I'm an ok driver, but can't say I'd be any better off doing ALL the mods that im reading about. Different horses for courses I guess.
Cheers
01-24-2012 | 05:45 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,974
From: Norwood, OH...and CCRCR and The OhioRCFactory
Not a stab at anyone or anything suggested anywhere, just an observation here.
All these minute adjustments that I'm reading about here, surely these are to only benefit those who are really on top of their game already who are micro tuning for that extra poofteenth of a second here? Taking a degree widget there and adding a ballast here and taking a washer off that front ball stud is not going to help that much. I know all changes are done for a reason, but I would think its more for major ragers, not so much the average runners. Everyone wants the advantage, and I guess all the little changes as to a bigger and better car. But its the person behind the controller that really does the work, he's the one that needs the talent, and if you don't have the talent, the adjustments probably aren't going to help. In saying this, I'm an ok driver, but can't say I'd be any better off doing ALL the mods that im reading about. Different horses for courses I guess.
Cheers
All these minute adjustments that I'm reading about here, surely these are to only benefit those who are really on top of their game already who are micro tuning for that extra poofteenth of a second here? Taking a degree widget there and adding a ballast here and taking a washer off that front ball stud is not going to help that much. I know all changes are done for a reason, but I would think its more for major ragers, not so much the average runners. Everyone wants the advantage, and I guess all the little changes as to a bigger and better car. But its the person behind the controller that really does the work, he's the one that needs the talent, and if you don't have the talent, the adjustments probably aren't going to help. In saying this, I'm an ok driver, but can't say I'd be any better off doing ALL the mods that im reading about. Different horses for courses I guess.
Cheers
Don't knock it till ya try it.
01-24-2012 | 05:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,974
From: Norwood, OH...and CCRCR and The OhioRCFactory
01-24-2012 | 05:52 PM
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01-24-2012 | 05:54 PM
sorry if this has been asked or talked about there is just too many pages to go through.. will kyosho shocks off of the rb5 wc buggy fit the b4.1 and if so do i need anything for it or do they just fit right in
01-24-2012 | 06:01 PM
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01-24-2012 | 06:05 PM
Look at it this way... if you adjust a shim for 1/10 bumpsteer that equals .030, multiply that by 10 and ask yourself if you think that would make a difference on a full scale car.
If you have 1mm of play in just one ballcup/joint your 1/10 steering, multiply that by 10 and ask yourself if you would feel safe with 10mm of slop in a balljoint of your full scale car... then add in the slop of all the other system components.
Unless you just DGAF, of course you wouldnt want that kind of slop and wear on what is supposed to be your daily reliable transportation.
So were looking at something that is 10x smaller than what we can sit in and drive with real time feedback, and you question the need for accuracy, small minute adjustments, and their affect on your disconnected radio controlled response?
Yeah... everything matters the smaller the scale. Thats why 1/8th has gotten so popular now that LiPo/brushless tech has overcome nitro. They are more durable and require less maintenance for the average weekly racer to use.
Slow on the bench equals fast on the track... as long as there is skill behind the sticks.
If you have 1mm of play in just one ballcup/joint your 1/10 steering, multiply that by 10 and ask yourself if you would feel safe with 10mm of slop in a balljoint of your full scale car... then add in the slop of all the other system components.
Unless you just DGAF, of course you wouldnt want that kind of slop and wear on what is supposed to be your daily reliable transportation.
So were looking at something that is 10x smaller than what we can sit in and drive with real time feedback, and you question the need for accuracy, small minute adjustments, and their affect on your disconnected radio controlled response?
Yeah... everything matters the smaller the scale. Thats why 1/8th has gotten so popular now that LiPo/brushless tech has overcome nitro. They are more durable and require less maintenance for the average weekly racer to use.
Slow on the bench equals fast on the track... as long as there is skill behind the sticks.
01-24-2012 | 06:05 PM
Also this link to Bob Barrys setup that he tried
http://www.rctech.net/forum/10092874-post8971.html
Cheers
01-24-2012 | 06:07 PM
Look at it this way... if you adjust a shim for 1/10 bumpsteer that equals .030, multiply that by 10 and ask yourself if you think that would make a difference on a full scale car.
If you have 1mm of play in just one ballcup/joint your 1/10 steering, multiply that by 10 and ask yourself if you would feel safe with 10mm of slop in a balljoint of your full scale car... then add in the slop of all the other system components.
Unless you just DGAF, of course you wouldnt want that kind of slop and wear on what is supposed to be your daily reliable transportation.
So were looking at something that is 10x smaller than what we can sit in and drive with real time feedback, and you question the need for accuracy, small minute adjustments, and their affect on your disconnected radio controlled response?
Yeah... everything matters the smaller the scale. Thats why 1/8th has gotten so popular now that LiPo/brushless tech has overcome nitro. They are more durable and require less maintenance for the average weekly racer to use.
Slow on the bench equals fast on the track... as long as there is skill behind the sticks.
If you have 1mm of play in just one ballcup/joint your 1/10 steering, multiply that by 10 and ask yourself if you would feel safe with 10mm of slop in a balljoint of your full scale car... then add in the slop of all the other system components.
Unless you just DGAF, of course you wouldnt want that kind of slop and wear on what is supposed to be your daily reliable transportation.
So were looking at something that is 10x smaller than what we can sit in and drive with real time feedback, and you question the need for accuracy, small minute adjustments, and their affect on your disconnected radio controlled response?
Yeah... everything matters the smaller the scale. Thats why 1/8th has gotten so popular now that LiPo/brushless tech has overcome nitro. They are more durable and require less maintenance for the average weekly racer to use.
Slow on the bench equals fast on the track... as long as there is skill behind the sticks.
CHeers
01-24-2012 | 06:10 PM
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 58
Not a stab at anyone or anything suggested anywhere, just an observation here.
All these minute adjustments that I'm reading about here, surely these are to only benefit those who are really on top of their game already who are micro tuning for that extra poofteenth of a second here? Taking a degree widget there and adding a ballast here and taking a washer off that front ball stud is not going to help that much. I know all changes are done for a reason, but I would think its more for major ragers, not so much the average runners. Everyone wants the advantage, and I guess all the little changes as to a bigger and better car. But its the person behind the controller that really does the work, he's the one that needs the talent, and if you don't have the talent, the adjustments probably aren't going to help. In saying this, I'm an ok driver, but can't say I'd be any better off doing ALL the mods that im reading about. Different horses for courses I guess.
Cheers
All these minute adjustments that I'm reading about here, surely these are to only benefit those who are really on top of their game already who are micro tuning for that extra poofteenth of a second here? Taking a degree widget there and adding a ballast here and taking a washer off that front ball stud is not going to help that much. I know all changes are done for a reason, but I would think its more for major ragers, not so much the average runners. Everyone wants the advantage, and I guess all the little changes as to a bigger and better car. But its the person behind the controller that really does the work, he's the one that needs the talent, and if you don't have the talent, the adjustments probably aren't going to help. In saying this, I'm an ok driver, but can't say I'd be any better off doing ALL the mods that im reading about. Different horses for courses I guess.
Cheers