SC10 4x4 Thread
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From: SoCal - Chillin in the LBC
This is {PURELY} a random question as I have no intention of leaving my Pro 4/MM zone from this point onward, But::
Have any of you guys ran any of the new Venom stuff in any rig for that matter?
http://www.venom-group.com/Store/Mot...roof-ESC-Combo
http://www.venom-group.com/Store/Mot...poof-ESC-Combo
I'm curious because of the waterproofing that people crave here in Oregon for the 4x4 guys who wanna drive in this crappy weather we have 10months a year.
Have any of you guys ran any of the new Venom stuff in any rig for that matter?
http://www.venom-group.com/Store/Mot...roof-ESC-Combo
http://www.venom-group.com/Store/Mot...poof-ESC-Combo
I'm curious because of the waterproofing that people crave here in Oregon for the 4x4 guys who wanna drive in this crappy weather we have 10months a year.
Two questions:
- has anyone actually ran B Eldrigdes diff mod yet and if so how's it holding up so far?
- I'm rebuiding my SC10 with all new plastics and after reinstalling the front end and before putting on the belt the drivetrain feels fairly smooth but tight, not notchy as some have experienced. My question is how free should the drivetrain be after you installing the belt? How well do your kits roll before you install the motor? I did add a 0.1 shim in the front diff to help minimize slop. The diff has 30k oil in it. I did not over tighten the diff case as I know that can be the culprit and cause binding. I need some guidance!
- has anyone actually ran B Eldrigdes diff mod yet and if so how's it holding up so far?
- I'm rebuiding my SC10 with all new plastics and after reinstalling the front end and before putting on the belt the drivetrain feels fairly smooth but tight, not notchy as some have experienced. My question is how free should the drivetrain be after you installing the belt? How well do your kits roll before you install the motor? I did add a 0.1 shim in the front diff to help minimize slop. The diff has 30k oil in it. I did not over tighten the diff case as I know that can be the culprit and cause binding. I need some guidance!
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 158
From: wichita, ks
Is anyone using the CC 1410 in the sc10 4x4? Is it good for the truck? And do you have to do any modification to the chasis to get the 1410 or the Tekin Pro 4 to fit?
I'm new to this brushless and lipo stuff and just trying to get the truck to run right. I'm still having the sudden brakes applied on its own during acceleration. I called CC today and the guy said that the motor(CC 1406 4 pole 5700kV) is not designed for the sc10 4x4. He said I need a lower kV. He also said that the battery is weak for my application. I'm using the Duratrax 5400mah 20c hard case. I was told I should be using at least a 40c battery.
I'm new to this brushless and lipo stuff and just trying to get the truck to run right. I'm still having the sudden brakes applied on its own during acceleration. I called CC today and the guy said that the motor(CC 1406 4 pole 5700kV) is not designed for the sc10 4x4. He said I need a lower kV. He also said that the battery is weak for my application. I'm using the Duratrax 5400mah 20c hard case. I was told I should be using at least a 40c battery.
Is anyone using the CC 1410 in the sc10 4x4? Is it good for the truck? And do you have to do any modification to the chasis to get the 1410 or the Tekin Pro 4 to fit?
I'm new to this brushless and lipo stuff and just trying to get the truck to run right. I'm still having the sudden brakes applied on its own during acceleration. I called CC today and the guy said that the motor(CC 1406 4 pole 5700kV) is not designed for the sc10 4x4. He said I need a lower kV. He also said that the battery is weak for my application. I'm using the Duratrax 5400mah 20c hard case. I was told I should be using at least a 40c battery.
I'm new to this brushless and lipo stuff and just trying to get the truck to run right. I'm still having the sudden brakes applied on its own during acceleration. I called CC today and the guy said that the motor(CC 1406 4 pole 5700kV) is not designed for the sc10 4x4. He said I need a lower kV. He also said that the battery is weak for my application. I'm using the Duratrax 5400mah 20c hard case. I was told I should be using at least a 40c battery.
i am running fast lap products chassis brace and u can still run undertray thats all i run with it on.
my question was more geared towards the handling portion and the ability to grab a handfull of throttle on a loose track and the fact that it is planted, than the obvious lack of big jumps!
I raced the RCpro finals with that body with no issues
not sure of the noise unless it is the dif noise which of course has been fixed since then, that is an old video.
John, no matter how much power you have or tire choice it seems like the dif is locked up, if the front tires come off of the ground all the power should transfer to them and bring the front back down. In fact the more power you have the quicker that should happen. Are you sure it is working properly? looking at your truck and not seeing the front tires ballon makes me think something is not smooth with the dif. If you hold the spur gear with your hand and twist the slipper nut the front and rear wheels should rotate opposite. Check and see if this is how it is.

I raced the RCpro finals with that body with no issues
not sure of the noise unless it is the dif noise which of course has been fixed since then, that is an old video.
John, no matter how much power you have or tire choice it seems like the dif is locked up, if the front tires come off of the ground all the power should transfer to them and bring the front back down. In fact the more power you have the quicker that should happen. Are you sure it is working properly? looking at your truck and not seeing the front tires ballon makes me think something is not smooth with the dif. If you hold the spur gear with your hand and twist the slipper nut the front and rear wheels should rotate opposite. Check and see if this is how it is.
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Joined: Sep 2007
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From: Shelby, OH
I finally ran the modded diffs last week and they holding up great. I ran about 20 packs thru the car. I even bent a cva bone which is caused by the cva bone binding against the outdrive and it did not hurt the modded diff. they still leak a little but not as bad as when they wobbled. I think some of the leaking is because the outdrives are worn from when they were wobbling right where the seal is. Maybe a seal that is a little thicker would help.
The $170 price tag isn't outrageous, IMO. It's a great radio and comes w/ the dang near top of the line rx. The good thing is that you can use the FHss-2 rx's which are cheaper, around $50 or so new.
The spektrum stuff has a cheaper feel to it, IMO. Plus all the problems w/ brown-outs are not cool. I know that there are fixes for that stuff, but you'll still have extra stuff on the truck that's not needed in other cases.
The dx3r is $250 w/o a rx. $339 w/ a rx.
Spektrum has cheaper radios than the MX3X, but they're not a nice as the airtronics. IMO.
The dx3c doesn't look to bad, it's priced right and if your willing to deal w/ the weak bec/ strong servo/ spektrum rx problems that come up it's ok.
There's a ton of Spektrum radios around the tracks I go to. So they must be ok. ALthough, none of the "pros", are running them.
I'd recommend the MX3X to anyone racing.
The spektrum stuff has a cheaper feel to it, IMO. Plus all the problems w/ brown-outs are not cool. I know that there are fixes for that stuff, but you'll still have extra stuff on the truck that's not needed in other cases.
The dx3r is $250 w/o a rx. $339 w/ a rx.
Spektrum has cheaper radios than the MX3X, but they're not a nice as the airtronics. IMO.The dx3c doesn't look to bad, it's priced right and if your willing to deal w/ the weak bec/ strong servo/ spektrum rx problems that come up it's ok.
There's a ton of Spektrum radios around the tracks I go to. So they must be ok. ALthough, none of the "pros", are running them.
I'd recommend the MX3X to anyone racing.
I don't know nothing..... other than Spektrum radios, feel like poop, look like poop, and seem to have problems when other don't like poop......
Here's more http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=116161
Here's more http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=116161
JR is the same exact DMS technology and IMAC Pros use them, Guys use DX8's and compete in IMAC with 12,000.00 Planes and have never once experienced ANY. single. Glitch.
Purely opinion based: Most complainers are Futaba guys who can't figure out a Digital Radio.
+1
Already 3 pages just about Spektrum radio "I like it" and "I don't like it". Maybe we move this subject here: http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-electronics-137/
and get back to specific info for the truck.
and get back to specific info for the truck.
FYI: Several Losi guys run Spektrum. Including the guys that were kicking our guy's asses for quite a while.

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I have not gotten around to the bearing mod. I have been swamped with Chassis braces (*looks at my pile waiting for the last F****ing part to get delivered*) and School classes started last week.
I'll try to get this done and start testing asap, but don't hold your breath. I'm sure Mantis is doing something himself, and it'll be alot nicer than me chopping a Diff up.
so just to clear it up. the truck only does wheelies when i come off a jump ledge when theres crazy momentum or a bump flips the front up. yes the front wheels do stretch out and its not like i can do wheelies on demand. But as far as the ops check you are telling me to do u want me to hold the spur gear, then twist the nut holding the center diff assembly with a wrench and see if the front to rear move opposite from each other?
But to answer your question, yes, check that and let me know.
I finally ran the modded diffs last week and they holding up great. I ran about 20 packs thru the car. I even bent a cva bone which is caused by the cva bone binding against the outdrive and it did not hurt the modded diff. they still leak a little but not as bad as when they wobbled. I think some of the leaking is because the outdrives are worn from when they were wobbling right where the seal is. Maybe a seal that is a little thicker would help.
In the beginning of the video you came out of a turn pulled the wheels and it held them up for much longer than it should have, When my truck does that the front tires balloon alot. the truck just seems really loose in the rear liek its getting too much drive and not transfering enough to the front. I could be wrong it just seems like the dif is tight.
But to answer your question, yes, check that and let me know.
But to answer your question, yes, check that and let me know.



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