99LikesTekin Servos
03-05-2018 | 09:27 AM
#61
Local track shop has them in stock but many aren’t biting yet due to the price point, in some cases twice the price of servos currently being used.
For anyone who has made the leap, can you provide real world feedback (good and/or bad) to justify the value with its much steeper price?
One of the selling points is maintaining accuracy and consistency over time so jury will have to stay out on that one for awhile.
For anyone who has made the leap, can you provide real world feedback (good and/or bad) to justify the value with its much steeper price?
One of the selling points is maintaining accuracy and consistency over time so jury will have to stay out on that one for awhile.
03-05-2018 | 10:45 AM
#62
Local track shop has them in stock but many aren’t biting yet due to the price point, in some cases twice the price of servos currently being used.
For anyone who has made the leap, can you provide real world feedback (good and/or bad) to justify the value with its much steeper price?
One of the selling points is maintaining accuracy and consistency over time so jury will have to stay out on that one for awhile.
For anyone who has made the leap, can you provide real world feedback (good and/or bad) to justify the value with its much steeper price?
One of the selling points is maintaining accuracy and consistency over time so jury will have to stay out on that one for awhile.
03-05-2018 | 11:30 AM
#63
In stock at amain. Says they are shipping, and they even have a discount coupon. So your paying about 140 before shipping.
I plan to pick up one of the T120 some time in the future. For the features and the resolution, the price seems like a good deal.
I plan to pick up one of the T120 some time in the future. For the features and the resolution, the price seems like a good deal.
03-05-2018 | 12:25 PM
#65
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,719
From: At dirt tracks in Michigan!
I haven't been able to give them what I consider to be a full shakedown, but I'll offer up my experience so far.
***Disclaimer: Tekin Team Driver so I'm obviously extremely biased***
TL,DR:
Planning to spend $100+ on a new servo anyways? Tekin should definitely be on the short list. Don't feel like you're being held back with your current servos? You'd probably shave more time off your laps spending your money elsewhere. See if you can test run someone else's car. You will for sure notice a difference, but only you can determine if the price is worth it for you.
Long version:
I had a Savox 1257TG in my stock class B6 and a Futaba S9372SV in my mod class B64 that were swapped out this past weekend with the T-180 low profile servos. I went with the shorty version because they were about the same weight as the full size servos listed above and I didn't want my weight bias to change much. If you already run a shorty servo, these are 10 to 15 grams heavier than most. Keep that in mind if your car is on the weight watchers program.
I also picked up a couple T-300 versions for 8th scale, once the weather warms up. Can't offer any feedback on them other than how stout they are. The clamping servo horns included are legit and will be used over what I already have.
Just spinning them out of the box, the geartrains on both are the second smoothest I've ever felt. For reference, I've used both brushless and coreless servos from Spektrum, Futaba, Airtronics, and Savox servos in the last 10 years and there was one specific servo from Spektrum that was the smoothest ever, but I don't remember what model it was. If you give them a hard spin when they aren't powered up, they will coast for a half turn. Futaba's gears have never impressed me, but they have always felt fine on the track. Savox's more expensive ($120+) high end servos are close in feel, but are louder. Will report back if anything ever goes wrong. The seeming lack of backlash was impressive, but again I'll let you know if any excessive play develops.
At 6 volts, both servos I replaced are rated at 0.07 seconds while the T-180 is rated as 0.08. I had my speed controls set for 6 volts, so I could easily compare them. If the Futaba is actually 0.07, then the Savox is not. But, it also isn't $150 like the Tekin and Futaba. The Futaba and Tekin both looked identical when playing with them on the bench. Relatively speaking, the Savox felt 30-40% slower, so something like 0.10 seconds. Not knocking it as I used it to win the local winter point series, just stating that the number on the box doesn't quite match.
For how they feel when driving them, the precision matches the price tag. Noticeably more accurate feeling than the 1257 (I mean, for double the price they better be). Found myself correcting less in the 2wd buggy. Now, if you were to pull a switcharoo and ask if I could tell if the $150 Futaba servo was still in my car or the $150 Tekin, it would be very hard to say. But, this is comparing a full size Futaba servo with 280 in-oz at 6 volts to a shorty servo rated 165 in-oz at the same voltage.
I don't think I ran them to the point where the "More Consistent" claim made by Tekin would have been noticeable. 5 minute races in 10th scale buggies aren't a stressful environment for most servos, so I'll get back to you once 8th scale takes off for the summer.
***Disclaimer: Tekin Team Driver so I'm obviously extremely biased***TL,DR:
Planning to spend $100+ on a new servo anyways? Tekin should definitely be on the short list. Don't feel like you're being held back with your current servos? You'd probably shave more time off your laps spending your money elsewhere. See if you can test run someone else's car. You will for sure notice a difference, but only you can determine if the price is worth it for you.
Long version:
I had a Savox 1257TG in my stock class B6 and a Futaba S9372SV in my mod class B64 that were swapped out this past weekend with the T-180 low profile servos. I went with the shorty version because they were about the same weight as the full size servos listed above and I didn't want my weight bias to change much. If you already run a shorty servo, these are 10 to 15 grams heavier than most. Keep that in mind if your car is on the weight watchers program.
I also picked up a couple T-300 versions for 8th scale, once the weather warms up. Can't offer any feedback on them other than how stout they are. The clamping servo horns included are legit and will be used over what I already have.
Just spinning them out of the box, the geartrains on both are the second smoothest I've ever felt. For reference, I've used both brushless and coreless servos from Spektrum, Futaba, Airtronics, and Savox servos in the last 10 years and there was one specific servo from Spektrum that was the smoothest ever, but I don't remember what model it was. If you give them a hard spin when they aren't powered up, they will coast for a half turn. Futaba's gears have never impressed me, but they have always felt fine on the track. Savox's more expensive ($120+) high end servos are close in feel, but are louder. Will report back if anything ever goes wrong. The seeming lack of backlash was impressive, but again I'll let you know if any excessive play develops.
At 6 volts, both servos I replaced are rated at 0.07 seconds while the T-180 is rated as 0.08. I had my speed controls set for 6 volts, so I could easily compare them. If the Futaba is actually 0.07, then the Savox is not. But, it also isn't $150 like the Tekin and Futaba. The Futaba and Tekin both looked identical when playing with them on the bench. Relatively speaking, the Savox felt 30-40% slower, so something like 0.10 seconds. Not knocking it as I used it to win the local winter point series, just stating that the number on the box doesn't quite match.
For how they feel when driving them, the precision matches the price tag. Noticeably more accurate feeling than the 1257 (I mean, for double the price they better be). Found myself correcting less in the 2wd buggy. Now, if you were to pull a switcharoo and ask if I could tell if the $150 Futaba servo was still in my car or the $150 Tekin, it would be very hard to say. But, this is comparing a full size Futaba servo with 280 in-oz at 6 volts to a shorty servo rated 165 in-oz at the same voltage.
I don't think I ran them to the point where the "More Consistent" claim made by Tekin would have been noticeable. 5 minute races in 10th scale buggies aren't a stressful environment for most servos, so I'll get back to you once 8th scale takes off for the summer.
03-05-2018 | 01:57 PM
#66
I haven't been able to give them what I consider to be a full shakedown, but I'll offer up my experience so far.
***Disclaimer: Tekin Team Driver so I'm obviously extremely biased***
TL,DR:
Planning to spend $100+ on a new servo anyways? Tekin should definitely be on the short list. Don't feel like you're being held back with your current servos? You'd probably shave more time off your laps spending your money elsewhere. See if you can test run someone else's car. You will for sure notice a difference, but only you can determine if the price is worth it for you.
Long version:
I had a Savox 1257TG in my stock class B6 and a Futaba S9372SV in my mod class B64 that were swapped out this past weekend with the T-180 low profile servos. I went with the shorty version because they were about the same weight as the full size servos listed above and I didn't want my weight bias to change much. If you already run a shorty servo, these are 10 to 15 grams heavier than most. Keep that in mind if your car is on the weight watchers program.
I also picked up a couple T-300 versions for 8th scale, once the weather warms up. Can't offer any feedback on them other than how stout they are. The clamping servo horns included are legit and will be used over what I already have.
Just spinning them out of the box, the geartrains on both are the second smoothest I've ever felt. For reference, I've used both brushless and coreless servos from Spektrum, Futaba, Airtronics, and Savox servos in the last 10 years and there was one specific servo from Spektrum that was the smoothest ever, but I don't remember what model it was. If you give them a hard spin when they aren't powered up, they will coast for a half turn. Futaba's gears have never impressed me, but they have always felt fine on the track. Savox's more expensive ($120+) high end servos are close in feel, but are louder. Will report back if anything ever goes wrong. The seeming lack of backlash was impressive, but again I'll let you know if any excessive play develops.
At 6 volts, both servos I replaced are rated at 0.07 seconds while the T-180 is rated as 0.08. I had my speed controls set for 6 volts, so I could easily compare them. If the Futaba is actually 0.07, then the Savox is not. But, it also isn't $150 like the Tekin and Futaba. The Futaba and Tekin both looked identical when playing with them on the bench. Relatively speaking, the Savox felt 30-40% slower, so something like 0.10 seconds. Not knocking it as I used it to win the local winter point series, just stating that the number on the box doesn't quite match.
For how they feel when driving them, the precision matches the price tag. Noticeably more accurate feeling than the 1257 (I mean, for double the price they better be). Found myself correcting less in the 2wd buggy. Now, if you were to pull a switcharoo and ask if I could tell if the $150 Futaba servo was still in my car or the $150 Tekin, it would be very hard to say. But, this is comparing a full size Futaba servo with 280 in-oz at 6 volts to a shorty servo rated 165 in-oz at the same voltage.
I don't think I ran them to the point where the "More Consistent" claim made by Tekin would have been noticeable. 5 minute races in 10th scale buggies aren't a stressful environment for most servos, so I'll get back to you once 8th scale takes off for the summer.
***Disclaimer: Tekin Team Driver so I'm obviously extremely biased***TL,DR:
Planning to spend $100+ on a new servo anyways? Tekin should definitely be on the short list. Don't feel like you're being held back with your current servos? You'd probably shave more time off your laps spending your money elsewhere. See if you can test run someone else's car. You will for sure notice a difference, but only you can determine if the price is worth it for you.
Long version:
I had a Savox 1257TG in my stock class B6 and a Futaba S9372SV in my mod class B64 that were swapped out this past weekend with the T-180 low profile servos. I went with the shorty version because they were about the same weight as the full size servos listed above and I didn't want my weight bias to change much. If you already run a shorty servo, these are 10 to 15 grams heavier than most. Keep that in mind if your car is on the weight watchers program.
I also picked up a couple T-300 versions for 8th scale, once the weather warms up. Can't offer any feedback on them other than how stout they are. The clamping servo horns included are legit and will be used over what I already have.
Just spinning them out of the box, the geartrains on both are the second smoothest I've ever felt. For reference, I've used both brushless and coreless servos from Spektrum, Futaba, Airtronics, and Savox servos in the last 10 years and there was one specific servo from Spektrum that was the smoothest ever, but I don't remember what model it was. If you give them a hard spin when they aren't powered up, they will coast for a half turn. Futaba's gears have never impressed me, but they have always felt fine on the track. Savox's more expensive ($120+) high end servos are close in feel, but are louder. Will report back if anything ever goes wrong. The seeming lack of backlash was impressive, but again I'll let you know if any excessive play develops.
At 6 volts, both servos I replaced are rated at 0.07 seconds while the T-180 is rated as 0.08. I had my speed controls set for 6 volts, so I could easily compare them. If the Futaba is actually 0.07, then the Savox is not. But, it also isn't $150 like the Tekin and Futaba. The Futaba and Tekin both looked identical when playing with them on the bench. Relatively speaking, the Savox felt 30-40% slower, so something like 0.10 seconds. Not knocking it as I used it to win the local winter point series, just stating that the number on the box doesn't quite match.
For how they feel when driving them, the precision matches the price tag. Noticeably more accurate feeling than the 1257 (I mean, for double the price they better be). Found myself correcting less in the 2wd buggy. Now, if you were to pull a switcharoo and ask if I could tell if the $150 Futaba servo was still in my car or the $150 Tekin, it would be very hard to say. But, this is comparing a full size Futaba servo with 280 in-oz at 6 volts to a shorty servo rated 165 in-oz at the same voltage.
I don't think I ran them to the point where the "More Consistent" claim made by Tekin would have been noticeable. 5 minute races in 10th scale buggies aren't a stressful environment for most servos, so I'll get back to you once 8th scale takes off for the summer.
Sounds pretty good, I'm looking forward to one of the 120's.
Can you pop the top of one off and give us a shot of the drive train?
03-05-2018 | 03:29 PM
#67
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,719
From: At dirt tracks in Michigan!
03-05-2018 | 03:49 PM
#68
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 73
From: st cloud minnesota
i just put one of these in an eb410. very nice fit and finish. i am excited to play with it, but i have not figured out how to program it. i have an rs pro 2 BE esc and a tekin hotwire 3 that i am using via blue tooth. any help would be great. thanks
03-05-2018 | 08:11 PM
#70
03-05-2018 | 08:15 PM
#71
This may not be the best idea in my humble opinion. I run a M12s and can tell you that 90% of people couldn't tell between the "normal" mode and the faster mode....until you go to the narrower SSR mode.
That being said the 7px on the middle level which I cannot remember at the moment is great on these servos.
03-08-2018 | 09:48 AM
#73
The biggest thing on the majority if these "proprietary" modes is that they're simply either dropping the signal down below the "normal" industry ranges, OR they're narrowing the "band" of the signals to emulate speed.
This may not be the best idea in my humble opinion. I run a M12s and can tell you that 90% of people couldn't tell between the "normal" mode and the faster mode....until you go to the narrower SSR mode.
That being said the 7px on the middle level which I cannot remember at the moment is great on these servos.
This may not be the best idea in my humble opinion. I run a M12s and can tell you that 90% of people couldn't tell between the "normal" mode and the faster mode....until you go to the narrower SSR mode.
That being said the 7px on the middle level which I cannot remember at the moment is great on these servos.
I'll give it a shot, Thanks Randy.
03-08-2018 | 09:13 PM
#74
You'll need one of these: https://www.teamtekin.com/shop/index...product_id=270
If so that jumper wire should come with the servo.