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RCGaryK 09-04-2007 10:59 AM

Try the servo first actually if you don't mind. Just thinking that might be the cause, call it a hunch.

jrxs-r 09-04-2007 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by RCGaryK (Post 3641170)
Try the servo first actually if you don't mind. Just thinking that might be the cause, call it a hunch.

Ok. I'll try that. FYI, the spare car is running a new 661 servo already, but the glitch would probably be related to the lack of a power cap on the esc.

I have read that some servos can cause issues. What would be recommended? Analogue or digital? I am sure that some of the cheaper digital models can also be problematic.

Anyway, i'll let you know how it goes. Should be able to replicate the glitch at home.

Thanks!

RCGaryK 09-04-2007 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by jrxs-r (Post 3641209)
Ok. I'll try that. FYI, the spare car is running a new 661 servo already, but the glitch would probably be related to the lack of a power cap on the esc.

I have read that some servos can cause issues. What would be recommended? Analogue or digital? I am sure that some of the cheaper digital models can also be problematic.

Anyway, i'll let you know how it goes. Should be able to replicate the glitch at home.

Thanks!

I've used KO, JR, and HiTec servos with my Spektrum gear without problem, both analog and digital.

mac853 09-04-2007 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by RCGaryK (Post 3641058)

Analog/Digital servos frame rate! Niceeee...
Hope it to be released as soon as possible.
Thanks, Gary.

jrxs-r 09-05-2007 06:49 AM

Ok.... Quick update on my findings tonight.

As I was getting ready to pull the servo out of the car, I thought that I'd give the system a try with everything disconnected.... just the ESC and the SR3001 Rx.

Upon connection and turning on of the power to RX, once the system was 'locked on', I rotated the car around till it started to 'glitch'. I wouldn't really call it a glitch, but more of an oscillation of the signal... The ESC has LEDs for neutral, part throttle, part brake, full throttle and full brake. The neutral and part brake LEDs were flashing with quite a regular pulse. This would happen on maybe 3 of 5 times when the RX and TX were switched off and on. When this ocsillation/glitch was happening, the throttle would not acccelerate smoothly. It was jerky, and trying to go between part throttle and full throttle. I re-bound the TX and RX in hopes that it would solve the issue, but no luck, and gave up after 4 attempts.

I reconnected all the rest of the electrics - servo, RX cap, and personal transponder.... still the same!

Then I thought to myself.... maybe I'll touch the TX aerial to see if it dampens the oscillation/'glitch'..... Problem fixed! :weird: Seems to me there must be something not right here!

I have a video of the problem. If anyone wants to see it, PM me your email address, and I'll send it to you.

Gary, what do you think?

RCGaryK 09-05-2007 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by jrxs-r (Post 3643966)
Ok.... Quick update on my findings tonight.

As I was getting ready to pull the servo out of the car, I thought that I'd give the system a try with everything disconnected.... just the ESC and the SR3001 Rx.

Upon connection and turning on of the power to RX, once the system was 'locked on', I rotated the car around till it started to 'glitch'. I wouldn't really call it a glitch, but more of an oscillation of the signal... The ESC has LEDs for neutral, part throttle, part brake, full throttle and full brake. The neutral and part brake LEDs were flashing with quite a regular pulse. This would happen on maybe 3 of 5 times when the RX and TX were switched off and on. When this ocsillation/glitch was happening, the throttle would not acccelerate smoothly. It was jerky, and trying to go between part throttle and full throttle. I re-bound the TX and RX in hopes that it would solve the issue, but no luck, and gave up after 4 attempts.

I reconnected all the rest of the electrics - servo, RX cap, and personal transponder.... still the same!

Then I thought to myself.... maybe I'll touch the TX aerial to see if it dampens the oscillation/'glitch'..... Problem fixed! :weird: Seems to me there must be something not right here!

I have a video of the problem. If anyone wants to see it, PM me your email address, and I'll send it to you.

Gary, what do you think?

If you're touching the antenna, you're acting as a ground. If this is the case then you should send your gear in for service.

jrxs-r 09-05-2007 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by RCGaryK (Post 3644043)
If you're touching the antenna, you're acting as a ground. If this is the case then you should send your gear in for service.

Just the module or the module, and all the receivers that I own (5 or so)? I haven't tried it with the DX3.0, but I think i'll send that in as well.

Thanks again.

RCGaryK 09-05-2007 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by jrxs-r (Post 3644053)
Just the module or the module, and all the receivers that I own (5 or so)? I haven't tried it with the DX3.0, but I think i'll send that in as well.

Thanks again.

If you're touching the module antenna and it's clearing it up, I would send the module in. If it was the receiver antenna you were touching, then I would send the receivers in. My honest advice is if you can I'd send everything in in one shot just to ensure you have the latest firmware on everything. It's a bit of an inconvienience with the shipping time and all, but if you have equipment to get you by in the interrum that's really the smartest thing to do.

jrxs-r 09-05-2007 08:53 AM

No worries. I will send all the TXs and RXs back to the distributor, and hopefully I'll get them back in a month or two. I'll enclose a letter stating the problems, along with a description of the aerial issue.

Once again, thanks for your help, Gary. Awesome! Keep you updated!

Bony85 09-05-2007 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by RCGaryK (Post 3636453)
What ESC are you running?

using a ko vfs-1 in the 12th, and an mrt mx in the touring, have tried it in both and it will not work on 4 cell, but works on 6 cell in both. someone suggested it could be a short could this be the case??

RCGaryK 09-05-2007 12:15 PM

It could be, but if it were a short it should be consistant regardless of if you're running 4 or 6 cell. Make sure on the VFS that you set the voltage to 4.0 volts.

Bony85 09-05-2007 03:37 PM

ah my coltage was set to 2.5volt i assumed the lower the voltage the better it will operate i will report back.

i thought that a short would be consistent regardless of 4 or 6 cell.

tfrahm 09-05-2007 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by tfrahm (Post 3627436)
I did a search on this thread and didn't find what I wanted to know, so here goes...

I have recently added a LOSI Slider to my racing stable... Visually, it seems pretty clear that the radio gear (labeled "LOSI 2.4Ghz DSM") is pretty obviously Spektrum gear... But I never like to assume...

Is the receiver, for example totally compatible with standard Spektrum gear (such as the DX3.0 transmitter)...?


Originally Posted by RCGaryK (Post 3628461)
Yes, you can bind the receiver to Spektrum Radios and Modules.

OK -- Mostly success, but still a concern... I installed the LOSI DSM receiver (MRX-3000), and during initial testing with my DX3.0 transmitter, everything was GREAT... However, after dialing in all the trims, resetting the ESC, etc. I wanted to set the fail safe settings, so I RE-Bound the receiver... Or, more correctly, I TRIED to rebind, and tried, and tried, and tried... Finally after about 7 attempts, the receiver re-bound OK, and I removed the bind plug and everything is OK, including the fail safe settings. The concern is WHY was it so hard to rebind -- more importantly, is there going to be a problem if I have to rebind again in the future...? I just don't like it when things "mostly work"... :(

Other than this one issue, everything is fine, and the LOSI receiver has a SHORT antenna wire, making it much easier to 'hide' it under the body of my dirt late model body... :)

rcpoint 09-06-2007 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by bmmer701 (Post 2894824)
i didn't notice that i plug the servo wires on the other side. (black wire should be in the outer part of the rx)
are you having problems binding your spektruM?

I tried like million times today, but no luck. I have a Futaba 3PK SR1000HRS and trying to bind with a micro receiver SR3500.
When I try binding and start my TX with binding button pressed, light on RX goes out but no continous light, just goes out.
Anybody had the same problem?

F

RCGaryK 09-06-2007 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by rcpoint (Post 3647690)
I tried like million times today, but no luck. I have a Futaba 3PK SR1000HRS and trying to bind with a micro receiver SR3500.
When I try binding and start my TX with binding button pressed, light on RX goes out but no continous light, just goes out.
Anybody had the same problem?

F


Its because you're using the HRS module. That module is only compatible with the HRS receiver.


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