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JFuel11 10-06-2011 07:00 AM

Which ESC...
 
Which ESC would you suggest for Mod 2wd Buggy or 4WD Buggy with down to 5.5 motor?

Thanks in advance.

MrUnlimited 10-06-2011 07:05 AM

GT2 Pro or Hobbywing 120A. Speedpassion is made by Hobbywing.

cjtamu 10-06-2011 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by MrUnlimited (Post 9747274)
GT2 Pro or Hobbywing 120A. Speedpassion is made by Hobbywing.

+1. Awesome in 4wd. The GT 2.0 LPF is great for 2wd, but doesn't have a fan, so I don't like for 4wd. I run the 205 Mod software (no boost or turbo functions) and it's flawless. Who needs boost or turbo for motors b/w 5.5 to 8.5? The added benefit is of course that you can switch speedo firmware depending on application. We have one tight, snot slick track that we run. When we go there, for 2wd I got to the 323 Stock and run a 17.5 D3 with boost and turbo.

Solara 10-06-2011 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by trytowin (Post 9747213)
What would be a good esc/motor combo to run in 17.5 short course truck? Sensored, boost, turbo and programmable, any suggestions? AE sc10 truck. Thanks:)

Talk to Mike K, Fraizer or Walt...and they will tell you what to get. If you are running stock SCT @ LHR...boost 17.5 is the class to run. GT2 LPF, GT2.1 ProStock or GT2 PRO all works...mate with V3 17.5 or MMM 17.5.

mjk1210 10-06-2011 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Solara (Post 9747586)
Talk to Mike K, Fraizer or Walt...and they will tell you what to get. If you are running stock SCT @ LHR...boost 17.5 is the class to run. GT2 LPF, GT2.1 ProStock or GT2 PRO all works...mate with V3 17.5 or MMM 17.5.

yup.

Gary, get one of those ESC's and the motor. I'll help you get the 323stock stock software in it after that and you can check with Frazier on how he runs his. I have an idea but may be off a little on a couple settings. You should get the LCD "pro" programming box in case you ever want to update or change the software in the ESC later on your own. The programming box it comes with will change the settings within the software that is loaded. You can't load new/different software with it though. Ifyou don't get it right away, no biggie, I'll get it set for you so you just have to worry about changing some settings on it after I load the 323stock software in it.

Howard, do you have Mike Frazier's setup posted on the web site? You should get it from him and post it if it isn't already up there.

mjk1210 10-06-2011 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by JFuel11 (Post 9747258)
Which ESC would you suggest for Mod 2wd Buggy or 4WD Buggy with down to 5.5 motor?

Thanks in advance.

You could get the GT2.0 Pro to be sure to handle down to that motor without ANY issues. But with the LPF or Prostock ESC's and some boost/turbo a 7.5 is ballistic anyway. So you could get one of those too and just "turn it up" a little.

edit: just saw your other response. You could load the 323stock in the lpf and put a fan on it. They sell them separately. Just screw it in and plug it in. I run 323 stock in 2wd and 4wd buggy but then just turn the boost and turbo way down when I don't need it.

trytowin 10-06-2011 11:34 AM

you guys are the BOMB!!!! :D

Solara 10-06-2011 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by mjk1210 (Post 9747679)
yup.

Gary, get one of those ESC's and the motor. I'll help you get the 323stock stock software in it after that and you can check with Frazier on how he runs his. I have an idea but may be off a little on a couple settings. You should get the LCD "pro" programming box in case you ever want to update or change the software in the ESC later on your own. The programming box it comes with will change the settings within the software that is loaded. You can't load new/different software with it though. Ifyou don't get it right away, no biggie, I'll get it set for you so you just have to worry about changing some settings on it after I load the 323stock software in it.

Howard, do you have Mike Frazier's setup posted on the web site? You should get it from him and post it if it isn't already up there.

No I did not...please let him know and email to me and I will get that post up...if you have any more off road 2wd or wheeler or SCT setup, send it to me too...

apriliamille 10-07-2011 12:37 AM

well just wanted to share an update

took the pro stock 2.1 and the novak 13.5 to the track with the blinky mode.

friend showed up who had never tried rc before so we signed him up.

the sc 10 ran back to back with 10 or so minute waits between each run for motor cool down for 4 hours of practice. then it did double duty in the sc class and the novice class. the esc and motor only got 2 race gap rests between each run. the electronics ran flawless for the entire afternoon and night

the sc10... well the body looked like well... yeah beat up, a rear bumper gone, a couple of those stupid body mount black circles gone

carlin 10-07-2011 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by mjk1210 (Post 9737744)
I would suggest running the 323 stock software and turning the boost and turbo functions way down to start. As well as the DRRS option (It works like an initial launch mode). Start at 1 or 2 for DRRS. That's because of the low grip. Turn boost and timing up about 10 at a time and see how it feels.

Gear it around 23/78 for a buggy and work from there. You could probably add a couple teeth to the pinion, to be honest.

Thanks for this i know in the UK we run much larger pinion i be running 27t ish anyways.

Also just one more question about the timing on the motor leave it in the middle or 5 or 10?

mjk1210 10-07-2011 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by carlin (Post 9751343)
Thanks for this i know in the UK we run much larger pinion i be running 27t ish anyways.

Also just one more question about the timing on the motor leave it in the middle or 5 or 10?

I've heard a lot of range with the pinion size. I use 23/76(used to be 78 on my b4, now 76 on my 22) on the buggy That is with a 7.5 with minimal boost/timing and with a 17.5 with moderate to lots of boost/timing. I've used it on a 50' straight (teeny tiny track) and a 200' straight and been really quick on both with plenty of launch and smooth power. It just seems to feel right on the buggy geared this way.

For motor timing, I usually have it about in the middle (5-ish). I worry more about the last setting on the ESC to keep the heat down. ACC is between 300-500 depending on 2wd or 4wd buggy. This setting keeps the motor temps under 130 usually.
(4wd buggy is geared 19/84 and has moderate boost/timing, by the way, with temps under 150 on the motor. same 5 degrees of time on the motor)

Hope that helps

KSimmonds 10-07-2011 06:59 AM

Just converted my 22 from a Tekin set up to a GT lpf. I had a couple of questions:

1) Any suggestions on placement of the cap in this car?

2) Going to run a 13.5mmm for power. Looking for a good starting set up on an off road track, roughly 84x45 dimensions. As previously mentioned, this is in a Losi 22. Although I have the LCD box on order, it won't be here until next week so I'm stuck with the normal box this weekend. I'd like to get settings using both the normal box and the LCD.

Thanks!

mjk1210 10-07-2011 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by KSimmonds (Post 9751737)
Just converted my 22 from a Tekin set up to a GT lpf. I had a couple of questions:

1) Any suggestions on placement of the cap in this car?

2) Going to run a 13.5mmm for power. Looking for a good starting set up on an off road track, roughly 84x45 dimensions. As previously mentioned, this is in a Losi 22. Although I have the LCD box on order, it won't be here until next week so I'm stuck with the normal box this weekend. I'd like to get settings using both the normal box and the LCD.

Thanks!

You can wire the cap speedo so the wires go under the shock tower to the motor. Wire the cap so it is wired under the speedo toward the left side of the car (opposite the switch side) and then run the wires under the motor wire tabs and stick the cap on the side just under the speedo (or on the side of it under where the receiver wire plugs in). You could also put the cap on the front of the speedo as well if you wanted.
Then stick the switch on the side of the ESC or on the plastic under where it sits and zip tie the wire nice and small right there.

When you get the LCD box you will want to hook it up to the computer and download 323stock into the ESC. Then use the LCD programmer box to change those settings. I feel that software gives the best overall performance and tuning options. I don't remember which software is pre-loaded from the factory. 205mod maybe? Turn up the DRRS setting for more launch but be carefull of too much for offroad, same with the boost function, the last setting should be on the lower end for more power but higher motor temps. Maybe 2 or 3. With the last setting the lower number runs faster and hotter.
I gear my 17.5 and 7.5 the same at 23/76 with the 22 and that's either motor on a 50' straight or 200' straight.
when you load the 323 stock software you can check the website for my stock buggy 17.5 setup and just turn down the boost and timing to about in the middle (20-25). and change the last setting to 150 or 200. that should get you set pretty good.

Solara 10-07-2011 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by KSimmonds (Post 9751737)
Just converted my 22 from a Tekin set up to a GT lpf. I had a couple of questions:

1) Any suggestions on placement of the cap in this car?

2) Going to run a 13.5mmm for power. Looking for a good starting set up on an off road track, roughly 84x45 dimensions. As previously mentioned, this is in a Losi 22. Although I have the LCD box on order, it won't be here until next week so I'm stuck with the normal box this weekend. I'd like to get settings using both the normal box and the LCD.

Thanks!

I will let the off road driver to help you on gearing...but for the MMM vs V3...usually MMM need to gear about 2T smaller then the V3 because of the timing board inside are 10* more then V3. Mjk210 should be able to help you on the 22 as he is totally dialed with his and he is uncatchable.

kstoracing1 10-07-2011 07:59 AM

It shows that the 2.1s are discontinued now...the 2.0s are still showing for sell. I wonder what's next for SP. Something similar to the r10 maybe?


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