I just saw the first review of the Maclan Diamondback MX.

It could very easily be a Viper product, looks like they used the engineering drawings and designs from the Copperhead VX4. If I had to guess, I would imagine it was possibly originally a replacement for the VX4. Even retains the Snake name.

I am just hoping that their sensored ESC offerings are along the same lines as the VTX10's, which I love.

There is simply no denying the similarities between the Diamondback and the Copperhead VX4.

The article:
http://www.bigsquidrc.com/first-ever...-motor-combos/

well, there is one big diff from what I recall about the viper escs:

well, at least they are as the same as Tekin in that regards, though I was hoping they could at least match Hobbywing at 180 days for companies that target racing in general. (not saying this esc is for that, but in general the warranty period was about the same for the escs). Considering what Castle stuff is used for, I wonder how they do it at 1 year.

Well, now that these are on the way, anyone want a Viper VTX10R-BE with Progauge?

Of course there are some visual similarities. The first one was pretty darn good. We didn't have to re-invent the wheel. Just fixed a few things up. BTW- it's 100% different inside and out. If you were really curious.

After that timeframe the chances of a defect from the manufacture of the product are incredibly low. The highest percentage of defect due to manufacture are within first few days of use. After that the probability goes down at a high rate. Doesn't mean the stuff isn't designed to last years. Just the reality of electronics and how we all use them.

true, however you have to admit that when you are sitting there with a speedo or similar that went out through no fault of your own towards the later days of a warranty, its nice to have one that is covered longer
especially if the price point between the other options is the same.

I can only imagine the expense I would have incurred because of that Xpert servo if I had decided it was just a bad esc versus the servo killing the ESC which is did repeately. Luckily the later ones were under warranty and I was at least out only out $100 versus probably $500.

Though, it would have been nice if I would have at least gotten a kiss or a shirt for my $100 :lol:

Speaking of which, did you guys every figure out why that particular servo was able to kill Viper VTX8s like I kill ribs? I still view the vids I sent of the issue with some amusement these days. :ha:

The VTX8s though were great, loved them, just hope you guys can make whatever new is coming have some of the features we requested instead of just internal changes that don't translate to something you actually see (like sensorless operation, power switch that if gets damaged can be easily replaced without bricking your ESC, etc).

Lastly, how long before we see the new stuff oriented for racing and will the 1/8 stuff still be waterproof?

Yes and no... this is a debate that can and will go on and on.... I think we have always had a pretty similar in message - defects are possible, it can happen. We accept and admit that. The end user should also be willing to accept and admit that over time how they use the unit has the potential to cause a failure as well. We put these little cars through a lot. The reason something breaks or fails may not be the result of the last 30 seconds. But and total accumulation of 'xxx' hours of running.

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Speaking of which, did you guys every figure out why that particular servo was able to kill Viper VTX8s like I kill ribs? I still view the vids I sent of the issue with some amusement these days. :ha:[QUOTE]

No. In 2 1/2 years we have not seen anything like your situation happen again. It could not be duplicated here or at the factory.

true, we do put our vehicles through some stuff, which is why at one point with 1/8 scale I would sell working ESCs the moment the warranty was over just as a peice of mind thing. Other than that servo doing a great job that usage couldn't, the vipers were ones I planned to keep.

interesting, so using that same servo returned and radio setup I had they couldn't replicate the problem? crazy. Shame as the specs and features looked good. If I have another esc in warranty maybe I'll give them a look again.

Oh, will there be a thread for the new brand?

Please start one up!!! If I do it they consider it advertising and delete it. We have tried. But would love to have one to answer questions about the new brand!!!

Looks like Viper is still making the VF8. Amain has them on preorder.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/rc-cars-...082101/p265108

Last VTX8's were sold from our offices about a year ago. There are no more......(fade to black....)

lol I love those kind of preorders :)

I got a VTX1 on the way. am I correct that on 1S it can be programmed right?

I am talking about the motors. They are on Pre Order at Amain.

I noticed that the Xpert line of servo's selection is dwindling. Are they also on the way out?? I see the deals on hobbysquare but the one I'am looking for is not available.

need help here. I got a vtx1 in that powers up fine. However, when I try to do the calibration process it never goes past just the single red light. Just sits there. I have to pull the battery lead to get it out of that.

Any ideas? I got a race tomorrow I want to use this at but won't be able to if this is still an issue.

I am trying this is 1S, does it need to be 2S?

Do a update to it via Computer. Even if it means reinstalling the same firmware it often times corrects these dead spot glitches.