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Old 07-01-2014, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NITROBUSA
No Viper dealers in Australia. Only thing my local sells is LRP or hpi.

All the Australian online sellers sell Passion Poo or Tekin & the wholesale prices over here are just stupid.
And in regaurds to warrenty, yea they don't exsist. They make it that hard to get a warrenty theres no point in trying.
I had a faulty thunder tiger controller and it took them 10months to replace it.....

Thanks for the advice bob barry, I am looking at the VTX1 for my new touring car mainly just as a weight saving factor. I just like having overkill.
I would NOT run anything other than a VTX10R BE in a touring car. 4wd applications have higher amp draw. and the VTX1 is more for 12th scale. You can get away with it in 2wd buggy too but I don't prefer it personally.
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:41 AM
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Even in Touring Car - same motor rules apply. Depends on motor being run. If running a 13.5 (blinky) or 17.5, you can run a VTX1 with out issue. If looking to run boosted or mod, then would go with the 10R. We actually have a really good race record in Thailand and Taiwan where 13.5 boosted is regular touring class, products work really well there.

As for pricing - be mindful of the motor limitations on some of the products you are looking at. The RS2 is a lower price but can only run down to 13.5 - its has less FETS, making it cheaper to produce. All of our speed controls (even VTX1) can go down to 6.5 minimum - and 10R versions can go lower.

When you compare like products 10R to RSX, LRP, Orion = 10R is same or lower. And some have lowered their price to match ours, we used to be lower than all.
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:43 AM
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10R to VTX8 pricing? -- actually even though its bigger - some parts for the VTX8 are easier to produce, less mfg work, means less cost -- which we pass on to the customers.
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Thanks for replys nikos

On another note ran both 2wd & 4x4 today in Sydney at a new track never ran before.
Losi 22.20 17.5 stock 69/37 gearing and esc came off at 26'c and motor 32'c

Xray XB4 17.5 stock 72/34 gearing esc 28'c and motor 38'c

Broke a ballstud on the losi & Need more setup work.
Never ran the Xray before & it pulled away out of corners but by end of straight they were catching me.
Got 5th in first final & 8th in second. Had that many people take me out was tempted to start swinging punches.
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Old 07-06-2014, 05:30 PM
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Long story short I left a motor wire loose and spur cut in half. Can I splice and sodder a extension ? I did it and everything is fine except for motor heat. Longer I run the hotter she gets. Had a Tekin t8 and now the viper 1900. Same story. Car seems to be free. My track is very loose with lots of wheel spin, but other 1/8 guys aren't having my problems. Can my splice be making heat in motor? Can I sodder new lead to esc without worry of damage? Esc is vtx8. Any help is appreciated. I cannot keep running it like this. I left track today after 1 qualifier.... Also car is losi 3.0 and I have tried 14-17 pinions and a couple sets of tires. Esc is profile 1 with a couple changes to brakes and punch.
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Old 07-06-2014, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by patrick lsp
Long story short I left a motor wire loose and spur cut in half. Can I splice and sodder a extension ? I did it and everything is fine except for motor heat. Longer I run the hotter she gets. Had a Tekin t8 and now the viper 1900. Same story. Car seems to be free. My track is very loose with lots of wheel spin, but other 1/8 guys aren't having my problems. Can my splice be making heat in motor? Can I sodder new lead to esc without worry of damage? Esc is vtx8. Any help is appreciated. I cannot keep running it like this. I left track today after 1 qualifier.... Also car is losi 3.0 and I have tried 14-17 pinions and a couple sets of tires. Esc is profile 1 with a couple changes to brakes and punch.
You're probably getting extra heat because the 3 phases of the motor are not the same. I would recommend either having someone with a good soldering iron solder new motor wires on or send it in to Viper for them to do it. On top of that, with a bunch of wheel spin you may be generating extra heat. Decrease the Punch Control setting on the ESC to the point where you can still comfortably clear jumps. I did that on my VTX8/VF8.21 in my MP9 and it made about a 20F difference in temperature on both the ESC and the motor.
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What gearing to you recommend to start at for a sc10 4x4 with a vf4 4500kv. Medium track with big straightway
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:08 PM
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Anyone know how how long the VTX10-BE, has been out? Thinking of picking one up to replace an old RS Pro and was not sure anything new is on the horizon.
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by diamonddawg21
Anyone know how how long the VTX10-BE, has been out? Thinking of picking one up to replace an old RS Pro and was not sure anything new is on the horizon.
The VTX10BE is still current. Every team car I've seen including the team manager is running the current line of ESCs, so I wouldn't hesitate on picking up any presently available Viper ESC.
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Old 07-11-2014, 03:34 PM
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Sorry haven't been on recently been at the HobbyTown USA Franchise Convention in Lincoln, NE.

diamonddawg - VTX series is still top of the line - we are always tinkering with something new like everyone else -- but no definitive plans in the works.

boborc - haven't even seen a AE 4wd SC in a while - my notes say 62/14 with the 4500kv when I last ran it. Should be in the ballpark - just monitor the temps...

Patrick - motor heat is mainly determined by the motor itself- gearing, run time and efficiency. Settings (like Punch), can help in cases where too much wheel ship is wasting energy (which causes heat). Also possible if you have run hot often that the rotor is loosing its magnetic field, which could make it work hard - i.e. more heat. Lots of variables involved - not one simple answer. But I will say that the wire splice should not cause an issue, unless its a poor solder joint making a bad connection.
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Well another day at the track another VTX8 esc failure. Well 8 seconds into the first heat so temps and just about everything is irrelevant a Brand new viper vf4 4500 kv motor (first race about 12 laps of practice on it). 1/4 of a lap in esc shut down alternating flashing f&r red and orange lights. Want to tell me its the motor NOW. Same error code in a61 and a64 firmware 3 different motors with 3 different sensor wires. The latest motor is a brand new viper got last week. also happened with lrp 5.0t 550,novak 4.5t 550 and now the viper vf4. Well if its the motor give me shipping tag and I'll send it back on your dime!!At a race for cash payouts paid 20 bucks to get into it and to be out of the money after 8 seconds freaking SUCKS!!!
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Old 07-12-2014, 11:35 AM
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very strange since the F and R alternating error code is not on the a61 software.

Yes, I would very much like to test your esc and motor -- and the LRP and Novak as well if your willing to send them to me.... strange that we have low failure rate with the product and you seem to be having issues regardless of what you use. Check your PM.
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Old 07-12-2014, 11:45 AM
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Viper R/C drivers Justin Gilkison and Jason Gainey are in Chico, CA for the J Concepts Indoor National series event.

After round 1 of qualifying. Both Jason and Justin are in the top 10 of Modified 2wd Short Course. Jason is 4th in Modified Stadium Truck and Justin is 2nd overall in the RC10 class.
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Old 07-12-2014, 08:05 PM
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I was wondering what application most people use the viper 1/8th 2700KV motor for? Would it be good for a lot of power in a 1/8th Tekno eb48.2 with VTX8 on 4 cell? If not which motor should I get?
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Old 07-12-2014, 08:10 PM
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Don't race for cash. We are supposed to be doing this for fun.

If you are having this problem with multiple motors, it seems safe to say that the motor isn't the issue. That doesn't rule out the wiring used between the ESC and the motor. What other things are common in each scenario as far as components?
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