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Old 05-14-2013, 12:18 AM   #61
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Normally a 500cc bottle is about right. However I found with the new Virtus, you need more time for the break in. If you only use 1 fuel bottle it will not be ready to perform at its best. I would go through the first bottle really on the rich side. Keeping it around 190-205 degrees. For the second bottle keep it around 210-220. Always run the bottom rich in this process as well. One the 3rd bottle you can start running it with a rich race setting. By the fourth bottle you can run it full out.

This is just what I found when I did my first ones.

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I just got a Keep On Break-in. So do I still have to break in 500cc bottle?
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I just got a Keep On Break-in. So do I still have to break in 500cc bottle?
Yes, the same procedure for all the Nova factory broken-in engines.
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I just got a Keep On Break-in. So do I still have to break in 500cc bottle?
Yeah, the Keep-on I just do the 500cc bottle and by the end of it, I am ready to lean it for racing.

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Can someone advise me on the different models of the Vir-tus?

Correct me if I am wrong but is the following what we can buy:

1: Rear ceramic bearing
2: Front and rear ceramic bearing
3: Pre-break in rear ceramic
4: Pre-break in front and rear ceramic bearing

Any more models?
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:20 AM   #65
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I heard about a Vir-Tus .21/S red dot version. what the difference between the regular one and the red dot team engine? thanks!
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I heard about a Vir-Tus .21/S red dot version. what the difference between the regular one and the red dot team engine? thanks!
Where can we buy the red dot engine?
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I heard about a Vir-Tus .21/S red dot version. what the difference between the regular one and the red dot team engine? thanks!
The team engines ship with a tamper proof sealed screw in the bottom RH corner of the backplate so not sure if anyone is going to jump on here and give you chapter and verse of the changes but I think we can assume some port work on the crank , some careful selection of the other components and normal motor build procedures i.e. make sure all the square parts are square and the round ones are round , current motors are so near the edge of the performance envelope there's not much else to do.
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The team engines ship with a tamper proof sealed screw in the bottom RH corner of the backplate so not sure if anyone is going to jump on here and give you chapter and verse of the changes but I think we can assume some port work on the crank , some careful selection of the other components and normal motor build procedures i.e. make sure all the square parts are square and the round ones are round , current motors are so near the edge of the performance envelope there's not much else to do.
what do you mean by tamper proof sealed screw? do you mean that we can't change the bearings, conrods and etc if they need replacing? thanks!
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what do you mean by tamper proof sealed screw? do you mean that we can't change the bearings, conrods and etc if they need replacing? thanks!
Correct - it gets sent back to Italy for those items
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Correct - it gets sent back to Italy for those items
Well that's a big hassle. Thanks for the info, I'll just have to get the normal one.
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Well that's a big hassle. Thanks for the info, I'll just have to get the normal one.
I even do not think you can buy such a team engine.......
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I even do not think you can buy such a team engine.......
they sell in singapore.
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Why would you seal a normal customer engine? The customer can not do the maintenance and if he wants to see the secrets inside he may break the seal or do these enginges come with a maintenance contract? Even then the secrets of team engines are easy to get so I do not think they are the real deal.

As with many Asian products I would say it is a fake.
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Why would you seal a normal customer engine? The customer can not do the maintenance and if he wants to see the secrets inside he may break the seal or do these enginges come with a maintenance contract? Even then the secrets of team engines are easy to get so I do not think they are the real deal.

As with many Asian products I would say it is a fake.
Team engines are only provided for team drivers, so how come they appear in the market?
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I have a .12 red dot Keep On. An excellent engine for sure and not cheap! Sadly, it did not come with magical powers and with it I am still pretty much an average driver on any given Sunday at the track.

It is definitely better than the tuned version and comes pre broke in, but I cannot say it is any better than an ORCAN GT3 or a good mod by Murnan.

I was lucky to see and hear Robert Pietsch's engine at the .12 pre-worlds. My engine does not sound like his when using the same pipe. His was the car to beat at that race (but had mech trouble in the main) and his engines screamed like you would not believe. I wish I could have dissected his clutch and measured the setup. It was awesome to watch and listen to him on the track.
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