Ninja Engine by GRP
03-09-2007 | 09:43 AM
#586
Aren't the Ninja's coming with a pipe and header though? 3 bills and some change is a good deal. My .21 is a great engine with no problems what so ever and it's super fast 
. Anyone know when the bearing puller, dismantler will be available?
. Anyone know when the bearing puller, dismantler will be available?
03-09-2007 | 11:05 AM
#587
Tech Regular
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 336
From: Ewa Beach, Hi
Originally Posted by stefan
Hi Mike,
I can appreciate that you are not happy with the pricing strategy of NR in the past, but currently it seems that they are lowering their prices while Ninja is raising them.
When the MR 12 was announced last year a lot of hobby shops over here had them listed for € 220, when a NR .12 was around € 320.
Now, things are looking a bit different. The Ninjas went up to €280
and the Novas down to €290 , so the difference is neglectable.
www.mugen-skm.de
Personally I was waiting for the MR12 to become available to try one, but now with the little price difference, I will get the new NR Plus 12 and wait how the Ninjas will perform on the tracks, just because NR is a known factor while Ninja is not.
While all this is happening I think Picco has become the most serious competitor in the .12 field, since they got their conrod issues worked out (took 'em long enough) When it comes to Power / Price ratio, Picco based engines are really hard to beat right now.
I can appreciate that you are not happy with the pricing strategy of NR in the past, but currently it seems that they are lowering their prices while Ninja is raising them.
When the MR 12 was announced last year a lot of hobby shops over here had them listed for € 220, when a NR .12 was around € 320.
Now, things are looking a bit different. The Ninjas went up to €280
and the Novas down to €290 , so the difference is neglectable.www.mugen-skm.de
Personally I was waiting for the MR12 to become available to try one, but now with the little price difference, I will get the new NR Plus 12 and wait how the Ninjas will perform on the tracks, just because NR is a known factor while Ninja is not.
While all this is happening I think Picco has become the most serious competitor in the .12 field, since they got their conrod issues worked out (took 'em long enough) When it comes to Power / Price ratio, Picco based engines are really hard to beat right now.
03-09-2007 | 12:02 PM
#589
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,278
From: Bavaria, Germany
Originally Posted by Mike_Swauger
I was not talking about Germany. I was talking about what I see here in the U.S. Here the engines are much cheaper then the Nova bases engines. I think on the .12 engine you are looking at the price of the engine with pipe and manifold. We have both but the combo package is what everyone seems to like.
When I look around at US shops, the difference between NR and Ninja .12's is also 20-30 bucks, not that much, right?
Btw, I just found the Plus 12-3 for €269, which is actually cheaper than the MR12.
NR Plus 12-3
When I lived in the States it was the distributors that messed up the prices for engines, especially Trinity when they had the monopoly.
I know that the European importer have been putting pressure on NR and it seems to have an effect.
03-09-2007 | 12:52 PM
#591
Tech Regular
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 336
From: Ewa Beach, Hi
Originally Posted by stefan
No Mike, the MR.12 kit with the pipe is € 320 (420 USD).
When I look around at US shops, the difference between NR and Ninja .12's is also 20-30 bucks, not that much, right?
Btw, I just found the Plus 12-3 for €269, which is actually cheaper than the MR12.
NR Plus 12-3
When I lived in the States it was the distributors that messed up the prices for engines, especially Trinity when they had the monopoly.
I know that the European importer have been putting pressure on NR and it seems to have an effect.
When I look around at US shops, the difference between NR and Ninja .12's is also 20-30 bucks, not that much, right?
Btw, I just found the Plus 12-3 for €269, which is actually cheaper than the MR12.
NR Plus 12-3
When I lived in the States it was the distributors that messed up the prices for engines, especially Trinity when they had the monopoly.
I know that the European importer have been putting pressure on NR and it seems to have an effect.
You need to look a little harder at your prices!
03-09-2007 | 02:34 PM
#592
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,278
From: Bavaria, Germany
Originally Posted by Mike_Swauger
Where are you getting your info???? Nitrohouse has them for $279.99 and $309.99 with pipe/manifold. http://www.nitrohouse.com/engines,_ninja.htm
You need to look a little harder at your prices!
You need to look a little harder at your prices!
03-09-2007 | 02:50 PM
#593
Originally Posted by stefan
I'm talking about German shops. Keep on those Ninja shades Dude!
Ive been looking at different U.S. sites and the +12ct is $50 more on average when compared to the Ninja.
If you are comparing prices from one shop to another then thats a different story.
If you look at the online price at Kamikaze for example the ninja engine+pipe combo is only $10 more than the nova engine.
03-09-2007 | 08:26 PM
#596
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Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 660
Originally Posted by Francis M.
Ive been looking at different U.S. sites and the +12ct is $50 more on average when compared to the Ninja.
If you are comparing prices from one shop to another then thats a different story.
If you look at the online price at Kamikaze for example the ninja engine+pipe combo is only $10 more than the nova engine.
If you are comparing prices from one shop to another then thats a different story.
If you look at the online price at Kamikaze for example the ninja engine+pipe combo is only $10 more than the nova engine.
I just don't know how the Ninja .12 will run with the combo vs buying aftermarket pipes and using them instead. I'm happy with my current engine for now until it goes out on me. I'm not a serious competitive racer so I am not in dire need of having multiple engines around to play with.
03-10-2007 | 02:29 AM
#597
Originally Posted by Dredd
Then look at a good pipe and manafold for the Nova. That's another $100
I just don't know how the Ninja .12 will run with the combo vs buying aftermarket pipes and using them instead. I'm happy with my current engine for now until it goes out on me. I'm not a serious competitive racer so I am not in dire need of having multiple engines around to play with.
I just don't know how the Ninja .12 will run with the combo vs buying aftermarket pipes and using them instead. I'm happy with my current engine for now until it goes out on me. I'm not a serious competitive racer so I am not in dire need of having multiple engines around to play with.
You don't have to be a "serious competitor" to have more than one engine, but it does help to have another car to test them in, so you can race with your primary car and play with the second one. Plus, having a backup engine is not such a bad idea.
Last edited by rmdhawaii; 03-10-2007 at 10:42 PM.
03-10-2007 | 06:39 PM
#599
don't know about HP, but got mine broke in tonight using the Swager method. It took a while, but not as long as I thought it would.. It was hard to get the engine temp up, even with 85deg weather. I got very cool temps. engine is still squeeky when turned over.
