Ninja Engine by GRP
#287
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mrgsr
answering your earlier question the 321p tuned is a much nicer engine in my dealings with both. it has better bottom, mid, and top but cost a little bit more. it runs smooth and consistent and have had no trouble with tuning since putting it on my car. i fought my ninja until the rod let go after a gallon and a half.
answering your earlier question the 321p tuned is a much nicer engine in my dealings with both. it has better bottom, mid, and top but cost a little bit more. it runs smooth and consistent and have had no trouble with tuning since putting it on my car. i fought my ninja until the rod let go after a gallon and a half.
#289
Originally Posted by dmb454ss
I had 2 ninja's one w/ 1 gal of 30% odonels and the other w/ 1/4 to 1/2 gal and both of them had piston failure. The piston broke but not the rod...Anyone else experience this?
#290
I was using 1 extra shim that came w/ motor (copper) w/ the ninja plug, ninja med header & ninja pipe...The 2nd motor before I started it I opened it to put in the shim and put oil in it & it sat on my work bench for a day. When I picked it up to put it in the car there was a nice little puddle of the after run oil that came out of the front bearing...Never had that happen before... The 1st motor did not do that and it ran perfect until the piston broke...The 2nd was hard to tune actually never got it 100% maybe air leak at that bearing, but still the hottest the motor got was 330 and I was out of fuel...
#291
Originally Posted by dmb454ss
I was using 1 extra shim that came w/ motor (copper)
Simply adding the shim that came with the engine, you fell short for about 0.3mm of combustion chamber height. The prove should be on the surface combustion chamber and all the piston (completely pitted and grenaded) and for sure you were blowing constantly plugs (or at least pushing severely the filament into the plug).
#293
I never had a problem w/ blowing glow plugs in fact after they broke the first thing I pulled out was the plug & it looked fine...I guess I should have read the thread alot closer before i ran the new one...Well now I know...I thought that maybe since both motors came from the 1st batches that were sent out that maybe there was a defect...but if it was a shim issue then i will do that one the next one...
#295
Originally Posted by dmb454ss
if you look on page 8 of this thread i asked the question if i'm running 30% should I run the extra shim & no one answered me...
Originally Posted by Corse-R
Strange... past experiences at nats and of 6 different drivers told that adding shims up to 0.60mm worth of shims helped to gain performance.
Probably ambient temps, rel humidity and barometric pressure were way too different, and of course the fuel used (we need to use 25% max nitro).
Could you please put more data regarding this? Which fuel, which plug and other info of interest.
Probably ambient temps, rel humidity and barometric pressure were way too different, and of course the fuel used (we need to use 25% max nitro).
Could you please put more data regarding this? Which fuel, which plug and other info of interest.
Originally Posted by michael 1
we ran 3 of them at the rams club here in nor/cal we ran them with all
the headshims .050 total and minus 1 at .040 i belive it ran beter
minus 1 , we did get some hi temps but as art said we our taking the
temp much closer , we got up to 360 , after the race we took them
apart no damage, good pinch, and not 1 plug blown or distorted
they are not jps , but they do have performance and at 1/2 the price
its a good deal .
the headshims .050 total and minus 1 at .040 i belive it ran beter
minus 1 , we did get some hi temps but as art said we our taking the
temp much closer , we got up to 360 , after the race we took them
apart no damage, good pinch, and not 1 plug blown or distorted
they are not jps , but they do have performance and at 1/2 the price
its a good deal .
If the LHS gave you a bad advice or at least suspect of something went wront, probably you could do a quick call to the importer (Mugen Racing and ask about them, for sure they will told you to raise the combustion chamber up to a safe level).
Don't know why, but, everyone who used this engine needed to raise the combustion chamber, maybe on the future, the engines should come correctly shimmed from factory.
#297
Originally Posted by TooFastForYa
Just got this motor today, and I got the Ninja EFRA 2053 pipe but the header didn't come in yet. Anyway, what exhaust system is everyone using with this engine and how are your results?
Thanks,
Adam
Thanks,
Adam
#298
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From: Franklin, Indiana
Raced my ninja motor for the first time this weekend in my mrx4r at the tristate 200 in Cincinnatti. I had no problems hangin with highend novas, and rb this weekend. If only I was as good as my motor was. The motor ran great minimal tuning. Held a great tune all weekend. I was running it rich and still getting great fuel mileage.
#300
I hope one of the .12 engines is going to NitroDyne Systems (http://www.nitrodynesystems.com) before the end of the month, so that we can all salivate over the performance graphs.



