Best NEW Engine out!
07-08-2010 | 12:33 PM
#166
I like alot of different engines...they each bring their own unique characteristics to the table, some good some bad and some open to personal preference...no engine is the best at everything, and no one engine will fit everyone's ideals the same.... some engines excel in certain conditions while others excel in other conditions...And when you take into account the many different variables in an engines performance its impossible to say any one engine is the best....To be honest the person running the engine can make way more of a difference then the branding of the engine....How well you know your engine is really what matters here more then anything else......How you use your engine matters alot more then what engine you use
in parting here is one of my all time favorite engines...I like the way they run, I like their power, the way they tune and the way they sound....This engine turns heads everywhere I run it, it also usually gets better economy then anybody else we race against.... I definitely won't say this is the best engine out there, but I will say I know how to use this engine very well and wouldn't think twice putting it on the track against anything ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=569nF90fUSQ
in parting here is one of my all time favorite engines...I like the way they run, I like their power, the way they tune and the way they sound....This engine turns heads everywhere I run it, it also usually gets better economy then anybody else we race against.... I definitely won't say this is the best engine out there, but I will say I know how to use this engine very well and wouldn't think twice putting it on the track against anything ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=569nF90fUSQ
ok now im making fun. 
07-08-2010 | 12:36 PM
#168
The WERKS B6 is an interesting motor. I run with a pro that has one and is sponsored by them. Like any motor it has its perks and issues. Thats all I will say.
07-08-2010 | 12:39 PM
#169
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,769
This thread is starting to get ugly. Just a suggestion that we all try to keep this civil. The bottom line is that as engine manufacturers there is no way that we are all going to be able to make every single purchaser of our engines happy. We can try and fight with them or we can choose to ignore them like I'm currently doing with my own personal dolt on here that likes to post negativity about our products every chance that he gets.
Moving on to the engines, first let me say that I'm flattered by the amount of people that have posted on here about the positive results that they have had with our motors, thank you! It is nice to see so much positive feedback from so many as the vast majority of you I have no idea who they are nor are the majority of them guys sponsored by me (so these are for the most part just regular people talking)!
There seems to be a lot of people questioning how a $200 engine can compare to some of the higher cost engine in performance. Frankly it's because the B5 and B6 are not $200 engines, they are motors that should be selling in the mid $300's. They have all of the performance, quality of materials and components just like any Italian made racing engine. The simple fact of the matter is that as I noticed the economy start to decline I took some aggressive moves to reduce the overhead of my business (which means that I can afford to make less because I spend less) . At the same time I noticed the negative side effects that some of the lower dollar engines that were on the market were having on users and simply decided to take a gamble and do something revolutionary. Make a good quality and performing product in Italy and price it at a affordable price point so that everyone can afford it without bending over backwards lol. Frankly it's not rocket science, it's simple economics on how these engines are possible.
For those questioning the ability of these engines to perform on the level of Speeds etc. let me remind you that Kortz ran a box stock production B6 at the Nats and led about 10 minutes of his 30 minute semi-final with it ending up 2nd right behind Drake. This was a semi that had Mayfield, Drake, Phend and a lot of the other fast guys in it so there were some speed's in there and needless to say if our little $220 engine was slow they would have ran Kortz over in 20 seconds flat which obviously did not happen. He went on to take 7th with it in the finals which was more the results of an incorrect tire choice but that's racing. So for all of the nay sayer's I'm not sure what better venue to prove that capabilities of our engines than the US Nats? We are simply leading the pack when it comes to affordable engines, in fact I was recently speaking to one of the magazine guys who's review on the B6 will be in print shortly and when asked what he thought about it his response was "In my opinion the B6 basically sets the bar from a price/performance stand point against which all other engines should be judged".
The bottom line though is that the right engine for any person is the one that suits their driving style best. There is no way that anyone can tell some one what they should or should not be running, it's all going to boil down to personal preference. Rest assured though that there are very few "bad" engines on the market nowadays so whatever decision a person makes they will more than likely end up with a great engine which ever brand it might be!
Regards,
Ron
Moving on to the engines, first let me say that I'm flattered by the amount of people that have posted on here about the positive results that they have had with our motors, thank you! It is nice to see so much positive feedback from so many as the vast majority of you I have no idea who they are nor are the majority of them guys sponsored by me (so these are for the most part just regular people talking)!
There seems to be a lot of people questioning how a $200 engine can compare to some of the higher cost engine in performance. Frankly it's because the B5 and B6 are not $200 engines, they are motors that should be selling in the mid $300's. They have all of the performance, quality of materials and components just like any Italian made racing engine. The simple fact of the matter is that as I noticed the economy start to decline I took some aggressive moves to reduce the overhead of my business (which means that I can afford to make less because I spend less) . At the same time I noticed the negative side effects that some of the lower dollar engines that were on the market were having on users and simply decided to take a gamble and do something revolutionary. Make a good quality and performing product in Italy and price it at a affordable price point so that everyone can afford it without bending over backwards lol. Frankly it's not rocket science, it's simple economics on how these engines are possible.
For those questioning the ability of these engines to perform on the level of Speeds etc. let me remind you that Kortz ran a box stock production B6 at the Nats and led about 10 minutes of his 30 minute semi-final with it ending up 2nd right behind Drake. This was a semi that had Mayfield, Drake, Phend and a lot of the other fast guys in it so there were some speed's in there and needless to say if our little $220 engine was slow they would have ran Kortz over in 20 seconds flat which obviously did not happen. He went on to take 7th with it in the finals which was more the results of an incorrect tire choice but that's racing. So for all of the nay sayer's I'm not sure what better venue to prove that capabilities of our engines than the US Nats? We are simply leading the pack when it comes to affordable engines, in fact I was recently speaking to one of the magazine guys who's review on the B6 will be in print shortly and when asked what he thought about it his response was "In my opinion the B6 basically sets the bar from a price/performance stand point against which all other engines should be judged".
The bottom line though is that the right engine for any person is the one that suits their driving style best. There is no way that anyone can tell some one what they should or should not be running, it's all going to boil down to personal preference. Rest assured though that there are very few "bad" engines on the market nowadays so whatever decision a person makes they will more than likely end up with a great engine which ever brand it might be!
Regards,
Ron
07-08-2010 | 12:40 PM
#170
I like alot of different engines...they each bring their own unique characteristics to the table, some good some bad and some open to personal preference...no engine is the best at everything, and no one engine will fit everyone's ideals the same.... some engines excel in certain conditions while others excel in other conditions...And when you take into account the many different variables in an engines performance its impossible to say any one engine is the best....To be honest the person running the engine can make way more of a difference then the branding of the engine....How well you know your engine is really what matters here more then anything else......How you use your engine matters alot more then what engine you use
07-08-2010 | 12:48 PM
#171
This thread is starting to get ugly. Just a suggestion that we all try to keep this civil. The bottom line is that as engine manufacturers there is no way that we are all going to be able to make every single purchaser of our engines happy. We can try and fight with them or we can choose to ignore them like I'm currently doing with my own personal dolt on here that likes to post negativity about our products every chance that he gets.
Moving on to the engines, first let me say that I'm flattered by the amount of people that have posted on here about the positive results that they have had with our motors, thank you! It is nice to see so much positive feedback from so many as the vast majority of you I have no idea who they are nor are the majority of them guys sponsored by me (so these are for the most part just regular people talking)!
There seems to be a lot of people questioning how a $200 engine can compare to some of the higher cost engine in performance. Frankly it's because the B5 and B6 are not $200 engines, they are motors that should be selling in the mid $300's. They have all of the performance, quality of materials and components just like any Italian made racing engine. The simple fact of the matter is that as I noticed the economy start to decline I took some aggressive moves to reduce the overhead of my business (which means that I can afford to make less because I spend less) . At the same time I noticed the negative side effects that some of the lower dollar engines that were on the market were having on users and simply decided to take a gamble and do something revolutionary. Make a good quality and performing product in Italy and price it at a affordable price point so that everyone can afford it without bending over backwards lol. Frankly it's not rocket science, it's simple economics on how these engines are possible.
For those questioning the ability of these engines to perform on the level of Speeds etc. let me remind you that Kortz ran a box stock production B6 at the Nats and led about 10 minutes of his 30 minute semi-final with it ending up 2nd right behind Drake. This was a semi that had Mayfield, Drake, Phend and a lot of the other fast guys in it so there were some speed's in there and needless to say if our little $220 engine was slow they would have ran Kortz over in 20 seconds flat which obviously did not happen. He went on to take 7th with it in the finals which was more the results of an incorrect tire choice but that's racing. So for all of the nay sayer's I'm not sure what better venue to prove that capabilities of our engines than the US Nats? We are simply leading the pack when it comes to affordable engines, in fact I was recently speaking to one of the magazine guys who's review on the B6 will be in print shortly and when asked what he thought about it his response was "In my opinion the B6 basically sets the bar from a price/performance stand point against which all other engines should be judged".
The bottom line though is that the right engine for any person is the one that suits their driving style best. There is no way that anyone can tell some one what they should or should not be running, it's all going to boil down to personal preference. Rest assured though that there are very few "bad" engines on the market nowadays so whatever decision a person makes they will more than likely end up with a great engine which ever brand it might be!
Regards,
Ron
Moving on to the engines, first let me say that I'm flattered by the amount of people that have posted on here about the positive results that they have had with our motors, thank you! It is nice to see so much positive feedback from so many as the vast majority of you I have no idea who they are nor are the majority of them guys sponsored by me (so these are for the most part just regular people talking)!
There seems to be a lot of people questioning how a $200 engine can compare to some of the higher cost engine in performance. Frankly it's because the B5 and B6 are not $200 engines, they are motors that should be selling in the mid $300's. They have all of the performance, quality of materials and components just like any Italian made racing engine. The simple fact of the matter is that as I noticed the economy start to decline I took some aggressive moves to reduce the overhead of my business (which means that I can afford to make less because I spend less) . At the same time I noticed the negative side effects that some of the lower dollar engines that were on the market were having on users and simply decided to take a gamble and do something revolutionary. Make a good quality and performing product in Italy and price it at a affordable price point so that everyone can afford it without bending over backwards lol. Frankly it's not rocket science, it's simple economics on how these engines are possible.
For those questioning the ability of these engines to perform on the level of Speeds etc. let me remind you that Kortz ran a box stock production B6 at the Nats and led about 10 minutes of his 30 minute semi-final with it ending up 2nd right behind Drake. This was a semi that had Mayfield, Drake, Phend and a lot of the other fast guys in it so there were some speed's in there and needless to say if our little $220 engine was slow they would have ran Kortz over in 20 seconds flat which obviously did not happen. He went on to take 7th with it in the finals which was more the results of an incorrect tire choice but that's racing. So for all of the nay sayer's I'm not sure what better venue to prove that capabilities of our engines than the US Nats? We are simply leading the pack when it comes to affordable engines, in fact I was recently speaking to one of the magazine guys who's review on the B6 will be in print shortly and when asked what he thought about it his response was "In my opinion the B6 basically sets the bar from a price/performance stand point against which all other engines should be judged".
The bottom line though is that the right engine for any person is the one that suits their driving style best. There is no way that anyone can tell some one what they should or should not be running, it's all going to boil down to personal preference. Rest assured though that there are very few "bad" engines on the market nowadays so whatever decision a person makes they will more than likely end up with a great engine which ever brand it might be!
Regards,
Ron
Good Post.
Sure wish Novarossi would do a price check on you guys!
I tried a B5 it was a good motor just did not fit my style, It sure fit my partners style though. I also run with a pro who is running a B6 that says he loves it to death but sponsorship can color actual thoughts so I take it with a grain of salt. Either way your above statements are true and proffesional which is greatly appreciated. Might give the B6 a try and see what it does for me.
Cheers!
07-08-2010 | 01:06 PM
#174
I don't run a Werks engine, but every single time I read one of Ron's posts....he gains more and more respect from me. Just a great guy from what I read out here! Maybe my next engine will be a Werks....who knows ;-)
07-08-2010 | 01:16 PM
#175
Tech Addict
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 557
From: Colorado
[QUOTE=MotoGod;7644691]I don't run a Werks engine, but every single time I read one of Ron's posts....he gains more and more respect from me. Just a great guy from what I read out here! Maybe my next engine will be a Werks....who knows ;-)[/
It was my first nitro engine so when I saw Ron active on the forums every single day, it made my decision very easy. And on top of it, my wallet doesn't hurt! But my eyes do because I play with my b5 every day...
It was my first nitro engine so when I saw Ron active on the forums every single day, it made my decision very easy. And on top of it, my wallet doesn't hurt! But my eyes do because I play with my b5 every day...
07-08-2010 | 01:19 PM
#176
07-08-2010 | 01:30 PM
#178
Absolutely Man.....
This thread is starting to get ugly. Just a suggestion that we all try to keep this civil. The bottom line is that as engine manufacturers there is no way that we are all going to be able to make every single purchaser of our engines happy. We can try and fight with them or we can choose to ignore them like I'm currently doing with my own personal dolt on here that likes to post negativity about our products every chance that he gets.
Moving on to the engines, first let me say that I'm flattered by the amount of people that have posted on here about the positive results that they have had with our motors, thank you! It is nice to see so much positive feedback from so many as the vast majority of you I have no idea who they are nor are the majority of them guys sponsored by me (so these are for the most part just regular people talking)!
There seems to be a lot of people questioning how a $200 engine can compare to some of the higher cost engine in performance. Frankly it's because the B5 and B6 are not $200 engines, they are motors that should be selling in the mid $300's. They have all of the performance, quality of materials and components just like any Italian made racing engine. The simple fact of the matter is that as I noticed the economy start to decline I took some aggressive moves to reduce the overhead of my business (which means that I can afford to make less because I spend less) . At the same time I noticed the negative side effects that some of the lower dollar engines that were on the market were having on users and simply decided to take a gamble and do something revolutionary. Make a good quality and performing product in Italy and price it at a affordable price point so that everyone can afford it without bending over backwards lol. Frankly it's not rocket science, it's simple economics on how these engines are possible.
For those questioning the ability of these engines to perform on the level of Speeds etc. let me remind you that Kortz ran a box stock production B6 at the Nats and led about 10 minutes of his 30 minute semi-final with it ending up 2nd right behind Drake. This was a semi that had Mayfield, Drake, Phend and a lot of the other fast guys in it so there were some speed's in there and needless to say if our little $220 engine was slow they would have ran Kortz over in 20 seconds flat which obviously did not happen. He went on to take 7th with it in the finals which was more the results of an incorrect tire choice but that's racing. So for all of the nay sayer's I'm not sure what better venue to prove that capabilities of our engines than the US Nats? We are simply leading the pack when it comes to affordable engines, in fact I was recently speaking to one of the magazine guys who's review on the B6 will be in print shortly and when asked what he thought about it his response was "In my opinion the B6 basically sets the bar from a price/performance stand point against which all other engines should be judged".
The bottom line though is that the right engine for any person is the one that suits their driving style best. There is no way that anyone can tell some one what they should or should not be running, it's all going to boil down to personal preference. Rest assured though that there are very few "bad" engines on the market nowadays so whatever decision a person makes they will more than likely end up with a great engine which ever brand it might be!
Regards,
Ron
Moving on to the engines, first let me say that I'm flattered by the amount of people that have posted on here about the positive results that they have had with our motors, thank you! It is nice to see so much positive feedback from so many as the vast majority of you I have no idea who they are nor are the majority of them guys sponsored by me (so these are for the most part just regular people talking)!
There seems to be a lot of people questioning how a $200 engine can compare to some of the higher cost engine in performance. Frankly it's because the B5 and B6 are not $200 engines, they are motors that should be selling in the mid $300's. They have all of the performance, quality of materials and components just like any Italian made racing engine. The simple fact of the matter is that as I noticed the economy start to decline I took some aggressive moves to reduce the overhead of my business (which means that I can afford to make less because I spend less) . At the same time I noticed the negative side effects that some of the lower dollar engines that were on the market were having on users and simply decided to take a gamble and do something revolutionary. Make a good quality and performing product in Italy and price it at a affordable price point so that everyone can afford it without bending over backwards lol. Frankly it's not rocket science, it's simple economics on how these engines are possible.
For those questioning the ability of these engines to perform on the level of Speeds etc. let me remind you that Kortz ran a box stock production B6 at the Nats and led about 10 minutes of his 30 minute semi-final with it ending up 2nd right behind Drake. This was a semi that had Mayfield, Drake, Phend and a lot of the other fast guys in it so there were some speed's in there and needless to say if our little $220 engine was slow they would have ran Kortz over in 20 seconds flat which obviously did not happen. He went on to take 7th with it in the finals which was more the results of an incorrect tire choice but that's racing. So for all of the nay sayer's I'm not sure what better venue to prove that capabilities of our engines than the US Nats? We are simply leading the pack when it comes to affordable engines, in fact I was recently speaking to one of the magazine guys who's review on the B6 will be in print shortly and when asked what he thought about it his response was "In my opinion the B6 basically sets the bar from a price/performance stand point against which all other engines should be judged".
The bottom line though is that the right engine for any person is the one that suits their driving style best. There is no way that anyone can tell some one what they should or should not be running, it's all going to boil down to personal preference. Rest assured though that there are very few "bad" engines on the market nowadays so whatever decision a person makes they will more than likely end up with a great engine which ever brand it might be!
Regards,
Ron
07-08-2010 | 01:30 PM
#179
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,769
Thanks guys, I just think that people seem to forget that we are doing this hobby to have fun and unfortunately every day I come on here and see more and more bashing. More and more finger pointing about this is junk and that is junk and frankly it becomes less and less fun having to deal with all of that. My whole interest in doing what I did was to make this hobby more economical by selling good quality/performing products so that more people could participate competitively and have fun.
Frankly in real life I like fast cars but I also like to have money in my pocket. If I was given the choice between having the exact same car that will go 0-60 in 3.8 seconds with a either a V8 made by Pratt and Miller costing $50k or with a V8 with the exact same performance made by Katech for $40k I would pocket the extra $10k and have a big grin on my face thinking about all of the track days, tires and suspension components (can anyone say Moton shocks ;-) that I could buy with the left over $10k not complain about it but that is just me lol.
Frankly in real life I like fast cars but I also like to have money in my pocket. If I was given the choice between having the exact same car that will go 0-60 in 3.8 seconds with a either a V8 made by Pratt and Miller costing $50k or with a V8 with the exact same performance made by Katech for $40k I would pocket the extra $10k and have a big grin on my face thinking about all of the track days, tires and suspension components (can anyone say Moton shocks ;-) that I could buy with the left over $10k not complain about it but that is just me lol.
07-08-2010 | 01:40 PM
#180
As long as you don't take it all personally Ron, and judging by yours posts...you don't then you're good. I don't stress over all the guys out here that think they know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING. I like to try different stuff and learn firsthand what works and what does not.....
I almost bought a B5 in January, but I wanted to try the Alpha Plus instead mostly to be different than everyone else. It had nothing to do with the Werks engine at all for me. I just wanted to be the first guy to run one locally, and I guess I was the second in the end but hey. I still wanna try a B5/6 though so we'll see what happens ;-) I refuse to spend $350+ on an engine that will only last 5-10 gallons when I can get the same mileage out of a $200 or so engine.
I like money in my wallet too!
I almost bought a B5 in January, but I wanted to try the Alpha Plus instead mostly to be different than everyone else. It had nothing to do with the Werks engine at all for me. I just wanted to be the first guy to run one locally, and I guess I was the second in the end but hey. I still wanna try a B5/6 though so we'll see what happens ;-) I refuse to spend $350+ on an engine that will only last 5-10 gallons when I can get the same mileage out of a $200 or so engine.
I like money in my wallet too!