NOVAROSSI Engine thread....
#3121
FYI, I was planning to pick one up on a trip to Europe this year, but going through the hassle of getting reimbursed for the VAT (which, by the way, you don't get the full amount back) was going to be a hassle. Since it's limited quanitities, there was also no guarantee there would be any left by then.
I contacted the distributor, Hoeco, and found a shop that sells online. When purchasing from the US, the VAT is removed entirely. Shipping from Austria to NC was slightly more than the VAT, but not terrible. I got mine for $134 Euro, shipped.
Here's a link to the Hobby Shop in Austria MKRacing.info. (This is the English translation using Google translate). They've been really helpful, and quick to respond to e-mails.
Should be a fun little motor to try out...at that price, you really can't go wrong.
I contacted the distributor, Hoeco, and found a shop that sells online. When purchasing from the US, the VAT is removed entirely. Shipping from Austria to NC was slightly more than the VAT, but not terrible. I got mine for $134 Euro, shipped.
Here's a link to the Hobby Shop in Austria MKRacing.info. (This is the English translation using Google translate). They've been really helpful, and quick to respond to e-mails.
Should be a fun little motor to try out...at that price, you really can't go wrong.

This is an on-road motor.
#3122
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There IS an onroad Vorlksmotor too, but the newer cheaper one is a buggy engine..
http://www.hoeco.at/index1.htm
Scroll down to see both in chronological order.
http://www.hoeco.at/index1.htm
Scroll down to see both in chronological order.
#3123
There IS an onroad Vorlksmotor too, but the newer cheaper one is a buggy engine..
http://www.hoeco.at/index1.htm
Scroll down to see both in chronological order.
http://www.hoeco.at/index1.htm
Scroll down to see both in chronological order.
#3124
#3126
Quick question about what is a good length for the pressure line from tank to pipe? I have switched to a pipe which has the nipple faced towards the back of car and I had to change fuel line path so I was just curious whats a optimal length or should it be just short as you can run it. Thanks!
#3128
Ok,
2.5 Gallons into my Plus4C been running great but tonight the weather changed a ton but I am concerned I have a front bearing issues... I have Tons and I mean tons of Oil/Dirt buildup on the front of my engine around the front bearing... Not just a little weaping from running rich... it also started flaming out tonight...
Bad front bearing seal?
Let me know your thoughts?
Thanks
2.5 Gallons into my Plus4C been running great but tonight the weather changed a ton but I am concerned I have a front bearing issues... I have Tons and I mean tons of Oil/Dirt buildup on the front of my engine around the front bearing... Not just a little weaping from running rich... it also started flaming out tonight...
Bad front bearing seal?
Let me know your thoughts?
Thanks
#3129
Ok,
2.5 Gallons into my Plus4C been running great but tonight the weather changed a ton but I am concerned I have a front bearing issues... I have Tons and I mean tons of Oil/Dirt buildup on the front of my engine around the front bearing... Not just a little weaping from running rich... it also started flaming out tonight...
Bad front bearing seal?
Let me know your thoughts?
Thanks
2.5 Gallons into my Plus4C been running great but tonight the weather changed a ton but I am concerned I have a front bearing issues... I have Tons and I mean tons of Oil/Dirt buildup on the front of my engine around the front bearing... Not just a little weaping from running rich... it also started flaming out tonight...
Bad front bearing seal?
Let me know your thoughts?
Thanks
then, gently remove the front seal with a dull xacto. then check the inside seal is still in place. and remove it and inspect the bearing. Is it sloppy, or gritty after cleaning? If it's ok, simply oil it, reinstall the two shields carefully and go run it. I have not seen a problem with that bearing, but It certainly can happen. If it flamed it's most likely too fat on the bottom, and this can cause flaming and gooey front bearings. That bearing seals better than any other one i have seen, but it can leak if the seals are not seated properly, especially the inside one.
#3130
When a bearing leaks it usually breaths inwards, not leaks outwards...weeping fuel is of no concern, that the engine likely ingested dirt thru the front bearing is a much larger concern...do a test...fire the engine up, and while it is idling spray behind the flywheel with a shot of nitro spray...if the engine stalls then you know your engine is breathing thru the bearing...this can be a huge issue if you run on a dirty dusty track, as the engine will breath in whatever unfiltered air there is...usually causing flameouts and premature engine wear....ever wonder how guys can wear out a engine in under a gallon ? ingesting dirt thru the bearing will cause engines to wear extremely fast....what is even worse is that any dirt particles brought in thru the front bearing will get ground up extremely fine, which means it passes thru the engine without any of the telltale signs of ingesting dirt...the dirt gets ground soo fine in the bearing that it acts much like a lapping compound......it leaves no scratches or heavy wear marks, it just wears the engine out..... the silent killer of nitro engines..... if you run in dirty dusty conditions you need to make sure your engine is not breathing thru the front bearing...the brake cleaner test is a easy way to test this.... I think many people will be surprised by what they find when they do this test....
#3131
When a bearing leaks it usually breaths inwards, not leaks outwards...weeping fuel is of no concern, that the engine likely ingested dirt thru the front bearing is a much larger concern...do a test...fire the engine up, and while it is idling spray behind the flywheel with a shot of nitro spray...if the engine stalls then you know your engine is breathing thru the bearing...this can be a huge issue if you run on a dirty dusty track, as the engine will breath in whatever unfiltered air there is...usually causing flameouts and premature engine wear....ever wonder how guys can wear out a engine in under a gallon ? ingesting dirt thru the bearing will cause engines to wear extremely fast....what is even worse is that any dirt particles brought in thru the front bearing will get ground up extremely fine, which means it passes thru the engine without any of the telltale signs of ingesting dirt...the dirt gets ground soo fine in the bearing that it acts much like a lapping compound......it leaves no scratches or heavy wear marks, it just wears the engine out..... the silent killer of nitro engines..... if you run in dirty dusty conditions you need to make sure your engine is not breathing thru the front bearing...the brake cleaner test is a easy way to test this.... I think many people will be surprised by what they find when they do this test....
Just spray while at idle behind flywheel into bearing area?
#3132
When a bearing leaks it usually breaths inwards, not leaks outwards...weeping fuel is of no concern, that the engine likely ingested dirt thru the front bearing is a much larger concern...do a test...fire the engine up, and while it is idling spray behind the flywheel with a shot of nitro spray...if the engine stalls then you know your engine is breathing thru the bearing...this can be a huge issue if you run on a dirty dusty track, as the engine will breath in whatever unfiltered air there is...usually causing flameouts and premature engine wear....ever wonder how guys can wear out a engine in under a gallon ? ingesting dirt thru the bearing will cause engines to wear extremely fast....what is even worse is that any dirt particles brought in thru the front bearing will get ground up extremely fine, which means it passes thru the engine without any of the telltale signs of ingesting dirt...the dirt gets ground soo fine in the bearing that it acts much like a lapping compound......it leaves no scratches or heavy wear marks, it just wears the engine out..... the silent killer of nitro engines..... if you run in dirty dusty conditions you need to make sure your engine is not breathing thru the front bearing...the brake cleaner test is a easy way to test this.... I think many people will be surprised by what they find when they do this test....
#3133
Novarossi engines have a larger diameter vacuum return port drilled into the case...I believe this port is there to return excess fuel and oil that accumulates behind the front bearing to prevent leaks...However if the fuel is too thin this return port will vacuum the oil seal ring dry....allowing the engine to breath thru the front bearing
here is the vacuum port

and here is what can happen if running on a dirty dusty track


And as I say the problem is deeper then the front bearing, as these bearings do not create a seal, these engines rely on fuel/oil film along the crank to create a hydraulic seal....if the fuel is too thin it will not seal and the engine will breath thru the bearing.......
I am interested to see some people do this test, report back their findings and what fuels they are using.......
Last edited by Maximo; 06-16-2012 at 10:15 PM.
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#3135
Monty, Neal or anybody. Need a sanity check on something.
I ran my Bonito on my RC8T today. I have the HSN flush, LSN 1/2 turn in from flush, running Byron's 30%, checked my tank and fuel lines (under water) for leaks, I have a zip tie on the carb boot, C6TGC new plug, clean air filter all secured with zip ties, clutch good, use a CompetitionHeat to warm the engine, everything tight.
I set the idle and the low speed on the starter box. The engine clears out good and the idle doesn't drop like when its too rich (two stage idle). I run it on the track and run about half a tank and the idle is just way higher when I get off the throttle, like after the long straight. The engine isn't terribly hot, when I checked it was 240 with still good smoke.
My questions are, is it too lean on the bottom? It seems if I richen the bottom, I have to raise the idle to keep it from stalling and it ends up having the "two stage idle" and everyone says when that happens the LSN is too rich. Just need some advice, thanks in advance.
I ran my Bonito on my RC8T today. I have the HSN flush, LSN 1/2 turn in from flush, running Byron's 30%, checked my tank and fuel lines (under water) for leaks, I have a zip tie on the carb boot, C6TGC new plug, clean air filter all secured with zip ties, clutch good, use a CompetitionHeat to warm the engine, everything tight.
I set the idle and the low speed on the starter box. The engine clears out good and the idle doesn't drop like when its too rich (two stage idle). I run it on the track and run about half a tank and the idle is just way higher when I get off the throttle, like after the long straight. The engine isn't terribly hot, when I checked it was 240 with still good smoke.

My questions are, is it too lean on the bottom? It seems if I richen the bottom, I have to raise the idle to keep it from stalling and it ends up having the "two stage idle" and everyone says when that happens the LSN is too rich. Just need some advice, thanks in advance.



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