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JBURCH 12-22-2009 05:06 PM

This time next week I will have my first Novarossi engine +4C, I have used OS and GRP's. From what I heard Nova's are good engines hope I wont be disappointed, time to be adopted by the Novarossi Family LOL.

Trevor Williams 12-22-2009 05:18 PM

Novarossi's were my first engines, I went with a r2r 21-4 from Monty, it came, I clutched it and went racing....totally painless engine, a complete breeze to tune(Odonnell 97T plug is what I prefer and have had great luck with) I have never had one bad day at the track due to engine probs, however I was lean bogging a tad on my last race due to the fact the mill was at 6 gall. and had a leaky front bearing......I got 6 gall. and only needed to replace a rod and went ahead and had Monty do cermaics f/r as well, rest of engine was perfect, the pinch is right where it should be, I wasnt afraid to let it see 260 and thats normally where it was at.....I ran a Ofna 053 pipe with the stock ] header and Byrons Gen2 fuel.........be anal about filter maintenance and these engines will give you countless days of great consistency and good results, if not it may not last a day, filter maintenance is a MUST........Im racing my 1/10 electric cars now as its winter here, but im ready for spring and some nitro.......Novarossi USA baby :nod: :tire:

bigguyrc8 12-22-2009 07:14 PM

i to just went to a p5xlt,came from the dark side (RBC6)i hope its just as good or better,going with a 086 pipe,heard good things about this combo.i'll keep you all posted once i get it hooked up.

Trevor Williams 12-22-2009 08:11 PM

these engines have the best seals period.......you dont need to gunk on aftermarket engine sealant ANYWHERE, not necessary with Novas........just MAKE SURE your air filter setup is good and tight,and keep your pre filters changed all day long and use a good grade filter oil like Lucky7.

topcat-lll 12-22-2009 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by jet flyer (Post 6753281)
Can anybody tell me the best plug to run in a plus 21-5K running 30% byrons and a pipe header combo for a short track. I have a mugen 1005 pipe combo and wanted to know should I stick with it or is there some thing better.
Thanks for any help

If in a buggy; I liked the Mc8 plug with the 9853/41021 pipe combo.

Cadimman 12-22-2009 09:22 PM

Question for you guys.
 
My first Novarossi is a "Speed" 528X with a blue head. I think it's awesome! Any input on this? I got it used from a truggy I bought and it's like new with stupid pinch. I looked on line to see what it's worth, but couldn't find it. Must be an old one?

JROD317 12-22-2009 09:41 PM

I ALSO JUST GOT A P5XL ANY TIPS ON THE BEST WAY TO BREAK THIS MOTOR IN, I HEAR THEY ARE NOT THE EASIEST TO DIAL IN BUT ONCE ITS DIALED ITS DIALED!

houston 12-22-2009 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by r1harper (Post 6753241)
anyone know if there will be a SS 086? i got the 9901 and 053 now waiting for the 086...

the 9853ss is available , i have a few

the 9886 , i wish they would make it in SS version buut not that i know of as of yet .:(

houston 12-22-2009 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by JROD317 (Post 6754634)
I ALSO JUST GOT A P5XL ANY TIPS ON THE BEST WAY TO BREAK THIS MOTOR IN, I HEAR THEY ARE NOT THE EASIEST TO DIAL IN BUT ONCE ITS DIALED ITS DIALED!

ENGINE RUN IN

use a heat gun to heat to 200 before you start at each step

You will have to play with the needles a little bit and cover the head of your engine with a pit rag (or similar)

do 3 heat cycles within the first tank at 190-210 degrees (3-5 min. intervals),
at idle on stand? yes.

then run it around on the ground gently only slightly rich keeping the temp between 210-230 (monitoring temps frequently ) careful not to let the engine get into its powerband , do this for about 1 full tank at a time but do not let it run out of fuel .do this for 3 tanks (cooling in between tanks), quarter throttle or so with short blips of more (full) throttle ..

not fast? slow pulls on the throttle in 30-40ft bursts .

then richen the needles a bit and run it about 190-210 on the track for 3 straight tanks monitoring temps frequently(every 2 laps) for the first couple of minutes until the engine runs at a consistent temp and feel.(start to lean out slowly)when you get it tuned in to where its not totally screaming but you have enough power to make the jumps with a slight bog at full throttle and runs at about 210-230, let it cool

(check the plug at this point),

what am I looking for exactly on the plug ? make sure the plug still glows and looks new, if it looks all distorted pull it out as you dont want a plug filament to go through the engine

go out and run the rest of the gallon til the engine richens up dramatically on its own and the temp drops instantly (i call it "dropping its nuts"). this process sometimes takes more than a full gallon .hope this helps ya , pretty detailed

I have had great success with this method and longevity , monty
www.houstonsengineservice.com

LOSIRACER77 12-23-2009 03:51 AM

I am think of comming over
 
I had been racing go tech for 08-09 season, and I am buying my first nova p5 for CRCRC for janurary, from mark at powerhouse , I went with a sport race mod. I hope it does good,,

Cadimman 12-23-2009 04:29 AM

I break em in pretty much like Houston with Great results. Long lasting engines that take abuse! My Vspec is almost done 9 gallons and is like new with pinch, con rod and bearings.....

LOSIRACER77 12-23-2009 05:30 AM

New
 
That heat cycle breakin is new to me , but this nova p5 I am getting will be heat cycled, that's all I have heard, heat cycle heat cycle. Well I am going to try it for the first time!

Trevor Williams 12-23-2009 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by LOSIRACER77 (Post 6755549)
That heat cycle breakin is new to me , but this nova p5 I am getting will be heat cycled, that's all I have heard, heat cycle heat cycle. Well I am going to try it for the first time!

I let Monty do ALL my engine work including break in. I change glow plugs, thats about it. When it needs opened up/serviced, I send it off to get the best tech work possible. I dont want to have second thought's about my engines......chassis' are enough to deal with on raceday, I want my engines to be flawless and ready to rock, I am not willing to sacrifice setup time on my cars because I tried to be a hero and screwed my engines up :nod:

JMO and the way I roll, I know some guys like to do there own stuff, I do everything on my own but engines :nod:

r1harper 12-23-2009 07:47 AM

exactly i am glad we made the switch to Nova...if you have ever spoken to anyone there, they are a pleasure to talk to and deal with. and having a new enigne is like a drug addiction lol

zixxer 12-23-2009 08:38 AM

for this season i have got a p5xlt it is about broke in at 3 quarts ..running super good and strong ...have not put it on the track but will soon ...also picked up +4c ..i just got about 500cc of fuel through it the other week at
Alan Burtons SPEED SHOP ...he runs about 500-1000cc through them in a heat cycle method to get everthing seated right ...i feel it is a great way to get the motors on there way ...some may disagree ...but i have always like the bench ..here are some pics of my 4c at the speed shop ..i got just over 500 cc through it ..everything went great heat cycling up to 215 the cooling down in 5 minute intervals ..then after the first few tanks idling at temp and then cooling down ..heres the pics ...check out his thread . .he has provided many racers some super good services and at a price thats right

THE SPEED SHOP


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/IMG00326.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/IMG00328.jpg
p5xlt in my losi 8

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/SDC10417.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/SDC10416.jpg


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