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brmena101 11-17-2014 04:28 PM

Losi RE12 pipe? Good? Milelage? Power?

9901 knock off? thats what i heard...not sure if true....

KyoshoRed 11-17-2014 06:32 PM

Ok out of all the Nova pipe/manifold combos which one gets the best mileage forget power smoothness all that just best gas mileage?

Lille-bror 11-17-2014 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by KyoshoRed (Post 13664369)
Ok out of all the Nova pipe/manifold combos which one gets the best mileage forget power smoothness all that just best gas mileage?

Edit / Hpi / Crono Efra 2032 ;)

beidle99 11-18-2014 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Lille-bror (Post 13664843)
Edit / Hpi / Crono Efra 2032 ;)

Is the Jp 2032 the same as the edit 2032? I know that it should be but the front of the JP pipe looks different then the edit pipe. What header to run with the the 2032?

Lille-bror 11-18-2014 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by beidle99 (Post 13665093)
Is the Jp 2032 the same as the edit 2032? I know that it should be but the front of the JP pipe looks different then the edit pipe. What header to run with the the 2032?

Yeah they looks similar to my Edit. They are no longer approved and are very fragile unless you get the Crono SS version.
I use Novarossi 41001 header.

KyoshoRed 11-18-2014 11:06 AM

how about a pipe that is still available? lol

Grinder 11-18-2014 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by KyoshoRed (Post 13664369)
Ok out of all the Nova pipe/manifold combos which one gets the best mileage forget power smoothness all that just best gas mileage?

41021/2096
41021/9901

These seem to be the best for mileage. The 2096 has a slight advantage in mileage over the 9901.

mwiley 11-18-2014 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Grinder (Post 13666282)
41021/2096
41021/9901

These seem to be the best for mileage. The 2096 has a slight advantage in mileage over the 9901.

Trust me, he knows what he is talking about. If you look at the last page or two of the Murnan motors thread there is a pick of how much fuel is left in my tank after a main. That was with a modded P5 and the 41021/2096 combo.

Autocratic 11-18-2014 06:15 PM

Anyone have experience with the Beat B4?

KyoshoRed 11-18-2014 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Grinder (Post 13666282)
41021/2096
41021/9901

These seem to be the best for mileage. The 2096 has a slight advantage in mileage over the 9901.

TY for the straight answer

kgombe 11-18-2014 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Autocratic (Post 13666830)
Anyone have experience with the Beat B4?



great engine... got 8.5 gallons of solid running with it.. last 11 gallons but had to remove shims and performance drooped off and all that good stuff.. all this on original bearings

Socket 11-19-2014 07:57 AM

Thoughts of the 086 pipe and header for the P5XLT? Good combo?

cczjordan 11-19-2014 05:23 PM

I had tested my friend 1 with d combo, seems it smoothed the p5 brutality with good response up to top range, never tested with other pipe

Socket 11-22-2014 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by cczjordan (Post 13669097)
I had tested my friend 1 with d combo, seems it smoothed the p5 brutality with good response up to top range, never tested with other pipe

Nice, thanks for the heads up!

BIGTIME 11-22-2014 04:55 PM

Out of all the Nova 4-ports which engine produced the most power?

cczjordan 11-22-2014 08:32 PM

Bonito/paloma will do but from my findings, mostly will run the ⁴. Make me think....

BIGTIME 11-23-2014 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by BIGTIME (Post 13674898)
Out of all the Nova 4-ports which engine produced the most power?

Come on Nova gurus help me out with this answer....thanks

rcmoe 11-23-2014 12:09 PM

From what I've seen and read its probably the Keep off 4

D8 11-23-2014 02:25 PM

Hey guys.. does anybody have an used piston for a Nova Plus 21-5k?.. the original owner pulled that back plate with the piston down and you know what happens after that :eek:.. the guy had just replaced the P/S/CR but, he went to pull the back plate to seal it and "doink" broke!

Thanks..

houston 11-23-2014 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by D8 (Post 13676310)
Hey guys.. does anybody have an used piston for a Nova Plus 21-5k?.. the original owner pulled that back plate with the piston down and you know what happens after that :eek:.. the guy had just replaced the P/S/CR but, he went to pull the back plate to seal it and "doink" broke!

Thanks..

You cant get just a piston

Rex plus5 is same as are almost every 16.26 x 16.8 nova engine


My vote is older plus 21-4c team

But most power is kinda subjective, top end power,low end power ,smooth power ,midrange power , what kind of power are YOU lookin for ?

D8 11-23-2014 04:06 PM

low & midrange power like Bigtime said below..

Thank you for the info!

BIGTIME 11-23-2014 04:42 PM

Im looking for good bottom and midrange power....

houston 11-23-2014 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by BIGTIME (Post 13676556)
Im looking for good bottom and midrange power....

Plus 21-4c team or mugen beat 4

BIGTIME 11-23-2014 07:47 PM

Ok.... Thanks

maddog74 11-30-2014 07:52 PM

Anyone know if Novarossi is coming out with anything new in the nova keep off 4 port line. Its almost the time for a new motor and dont want to buy the old version if there is a new one coming out.

houston 11-30-2014 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by maddog74 (Post 13690493)
Anyone know if Novarossi is coming out with anything new in the nova keep off 4 port line. Its almost the time for a new motor and dont want to buy the old version if there is a new one coming out.

curious , what do you see that there could be an improvement on?

the novarossi and novarossi made engines are great , very refined

some engines may have mo0re "BLING" but that dont mean jack squat IMHO

rallyebmx 11-30-2014 08:27 PM

Would filling the crank on the keep off 4 help with mileage ? Or is there some magic going on in there and that's why its not filled?

fastchvy 11-30-2014 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by maddog74 (Post 13690493)
Anyone know if Novarossi is coming out with anything new in the nova keep off 4 port line. Its almost the time for a new motor and dont want to buy the old version if there is a new one coming out.

seen the new "ver-tus" 4 port run today, looks awesome with alot of power...seen the stop watch with 11 minutes on it and there was still 1/4 tank of fuel left:nod:

bobby blend 12-01-2014 06:39 PM

anybody know what color carburetor washer to use for best performance with the virtus? it has a black one on there now, but also offers red, white, blue and orange.

merdith6 12-01-2014 10:19 PM

hehe
 

Originally Posted by houston (Post 13690535)
curious , what do you see that there could be an improvement on?

the novarossi and novarossi made engines are great , very refined

some engines may have mo0re "BLING" but that dont mean jack squat IMHO

That made me laugh. Bling don't mean jack squat. Perfect Monty.

houston 12-02-2014 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by merdith6 (Post 13692954)
That made me laugh. Bling don't mean jack squat. Perfect Monty.

You know what they say

You can polish a turd but its still a turd

ronP617 12-02-2014 04:48 AM

hey guys I need some help, i just bought the keep off 21-4 and also the 21-7. I have a tlr 3.0 truggy and a mbx7r buggy. Which engine should i use on each? Whats a good pipe header combo for these engines. thanks

Buster661 12-02-2014 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by ronP617 (Post 13693230)
hey guys I need some help, i just bought the keep off 21-4 and also the 21-7. I have a tlr 3.0 truggy and a mbx7r buggy. Which engine should i use on each? Whats a good pipe header combo for these engines. thanks

21-4 in the buggy for sure. Best all around pipe/header combo for your Mugen is the 9901/021. (same pipe and header on the Truggy as well)

Nitrojeff 12-03-2014 11:56 AM

Anyone try Boca ceramic bearings in the Keep Off or Virtus Engines? I thought Nova had a patent on the rear conical bearing? The Nova's are over $100. Rather run the Boca if they have that weird cone in the race. Thanks

SEF 12-03-2014 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Nitrojeff (Post 13696441)
Anyone try Boca ceramic bearings in the Keep Off or Virtus Engines? I thought Nova had a patent on the rear conical bearing? The Nova's are over $100. Rather run the Boca if they have that weird cone in the race. Thanks

Not sure if Boca has made this bearing yet, but I do know that there is a TKO bearing that is a direct replacement and works great.

http://tkocompetitiondev.com/product...roducts_id=576

scrapsz 12-03-2014 03:50 PM

The replacement bearing mentioned above from TKO only fits the Keep Off 21-4 engine. It does not fit the Keep Off 21-7 or Virtus engines. From my knowledge, you can only obtain the rear bearing on these engines directly from Novarossi (NOV16006)

I have one NIB which I'm looking to sell...PM me if interested.

Ggthedouble 12-08-2014 12:38 PM

28-7T
 
I just got a brand new Mugen MBX6-TR and its gonna be my first nitro truck. I'm looking at getting the NovaRossi 28-7T engine for it but I don't know if that will be my best option. Has anybody had success with the 28-7T? Would the .25 or .21 options be better for the truggy. Most of the tracks I run on are all technical with lots of stop and go and minimum straightaways.

Jerm13 12-08-2014 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Ggthedouble (Post 13706445)
I just got a brand new Mugen MBX6-TR and its gonna be my first nitro truck. I'm looking at getting the NovaRossi 28-7T engine for it but I don't know if that will be my best option. Has anybody had success with the 28-7T? Would the .25 or .21 options be better for the truggy. Most of the tracks I run on are all technical with lots of stop and go and minimum straightaways.

Small technical tracks are one of my favorites. It makes it a drivers track and not about horse power or money track.

I would look at engines with lots of torque and low end controllability. A .28 or the Roma .25 are great with power but can be a little too much even for trucks now a days. I would look at a good .21

I recently got a .21 P5XLT Modded and couldn't be happier. Plenty of power, smooth and controllable. Yes its modded but for RPM and fuel mileage more so than anything.

Your budget should help determine weather you are going the P5 route or the Virtus route. Its about a $250 swing between the two.

Being its your first nitro, I would not spend bookoo dollars until you get the feel and knowledge of the mills. Hell, you may not like it and just dumped a bunch of money in it.

The P5's can be had for about $190. I would look at getting a mod company to do the break-in for you as that is the most important part of any engines life ( the first 500-800 cc's of fuel anyway).

And lets not forget a good pipe to match your mill, track and driving style. Pipes can bring a motor to life or pound the nails into the coffin!

Good luck.

Ggthedouble 12-08-2014 06:37 PM

Honestly I think i'm gonna go with the Roma .25. I like the .28 but i'm not so sure about the fuel efficiency. If i go with the Roma .25 what is the best pipe and manifold for it. Like i said on a lot of the tracks I race on there is a lot of stop and go with a few straights and 1-2 long straights. I really appreciate the help and advice.

Ggthedouble 12-08-2014 06:52 PM

Is there a huge difference in the fuel economy between the .21 .25?


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