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Rc kids 12-10-2012 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 11539007)
Awesome, welcome aboard! If you ever have any questions their is a wealth of information on this thread covering everything from break in (post 1) to tuning, problem solving etc. etc. etc. Also if you every have any questions do not hesitate to contact me directly or post on the forum!

One more question for you lol, is a jp2 pipe alright with this motor? and also does it come with a back plate?

Thanks

alexrckid 12-10-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rubberneck (Post 11526385)
so alex in your opinion do think it would be worth spending 80.00 more for the pro version? Thanks very much for input.

from a racers standpoint, i noticed very little performance difference between the orig b5 and the pro. the "non-pro" has so much bottom end and a screaming top end that it never had any problems in terms or performance anywhere on the tracks that i race at in the northeast. it never gave anything up to any other engins that i ran up against(this is with a WERKS pro clutch with 2-alum and 2-composit shoes and .95/1.0 spring along with a 2013 pipe). fantastic setup in a truggy(losi 8t 2.0 in my case....

alexrckid 12-10-2012 08:00 PM

this particular engine's probably got at least 2-3 gallons thru it and it runs fantastically.....i always ran byron's 30% race..........just remember, like you would do with any nitro engine, to always rotate the piston to BDC each and every time you shut it down.......

alexrckid 12-10-2012 08:08 PM

ya know, there was a time that i would have never thought to run a WERKS engine...was sold on my OS's and in particular my mugen ninja. but, when the B5 came around, decided to give it a shot.......HAVE NEVER LOOKED BACK or even considered any other engine. that is just how good the B5 is.........quality, performance and(if ya ever need it) great factory(ron) support. you can not and probably never will get the kind of factory support from ron from any other engine on the market.....WERKS is RON...or is RON is WERKS..?? oh...i have never had to "seal" any of the WERKS mills that i have. thank you and goodnight.................

ZERTA RACING 12-11-2012 12:36 AM

Okay,
I would like some opinions please,I have read through about 95% of the WERKS B5 thread and the B6 thread lol. I am fairly new to nitro but not new to rc. My background is electric 1/8th buggy and have been racing it for the past 4 years(expert/pro). I ran nitro about a year back for a couple of races and liked it and want to get back into it. My question is, which motor would be more like the power of an E-buggy? I am leaning towards the B5-pro with a 2013 pipe as my local track it pretty large and I will be racing nitro challenge this year. Is the 2058 better for a buggy? I am hoping to pit at 10min with that pipe and motor combo with that be realistic in buggy? I know the B6 is aimed more as a buggy motor and get better milage than the B5 but is the difference in run time really a minute to a minute and a half? I am sorry for the million questions but i just want to make the right call on motor and pipe. The reason i am going towards WERKS and not another brand is that i know there is support in these threads unlike others i have read.
Also i will be running WERKS fuel for sure.
thanks,
Thomas Jones

071crazy 12-11-2012 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by ZERTA RACING (Post 11540984)
Okay,
I would like some opinions please,I have read through about 95% of the WERKS B5 thread and the B6 thread lol. I am fairly new to nitro but not new to rc. My background is electric 1/8th buggy and have been racing it for the past 4 years(expert/pro). I ran nitro about a year back for a couple of races and liked it and want to get back into it. My question is, which motor would be more like the power of an E-buggy? I am leaning towards the B5-pro with a 2013 pipe as my local track it pretty large and I will be racing nitro challenge this year. Is the 2058 better for a buggy? I am hoping to pit at 10min with that pipe and motor combo with that be realistic in buggy? I know the B6 is aimed more as a buggy motor and get better milage than the B5 but is the difference in run time really a minute to a minute and a half? I am sorry for the million questions but i just want to make the right call on motor and pipe. The reason i am going towards WERKS and not another brand is that i know there is support in these threads unlike others i have read.
Also i will be running WERKS fuel for sure.
thanks,
Thomas Jones

Go with the b6/2058 combo in buggy, b5/2013 in truggy, imo. These are a great starting point for any track.

I don't think you necessarily need the pro engines. I think it's more important to get the non-pro engines, start practicing for the nitro challenge now, and get used to the powerband. You will not be lacking power, that's for sure.

Werks 12-11-2012 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Rc kids (Post 11539950)
One more question for you lol, is a jp2 pipe alright with this motor? and also does it come with a back plate?

Thanks

I have little experience with our engines using different brands of pipes as we develop and test using our own equipment but having said that any pipe will work with any engine. The one thing that different pipes do is alter the power band, so honestly the answer is yes it will work but the only one that will be able to say that they like the power band that that specific pipe provides with our engine is you based on your driving style if that makes sense. In other words test it and see what your thoughts are. Alternatively another low cost pipe (around $35) to try out is the Associated 2035 pipe set and this will give around 80 of the performance of the 2058 pipe set that we make at a low cost.

Now regarding back plate, all engines have a back plate on them or there would be a big hole on the rear of the engine :lol:

Werks 12-11-2012 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by ZERTA RACING (Post 11540984)
Okay,
I would like some opinions please,I have read through about 95% of the WERKS B5 thread and the B6 thread lol. I am fairly new to nitro but not new to rc. My background is electric 1/8th buggy and have been racing it for the past 4 years(expert/pro). I ran nitro about a year back for a couple of races and liked it and want to get back into it. My question is, which motor would be more like the power of an E-buggy? I am leaning towards the B5-pro with a 2013 pipe as my local track it pretty large and I will be racing nitro challenge this year. Is the 2058 better for a buggy? I am hoping to pit at 10min with that pipe and motor combo with that be realistic in buggy? I know the B6 is aimed more as a buggy motor and get better milage than the B5 but is the difference in run time really a minute to a minute and a half? I am sorry for the million questions but i just want to make the right call on motor and pipe. The reason i am going towards WERKS and not another brand is that i know there is support in these threads unlike others i have read.
Also i will be running WERKS fuel for sure.
thanks,
Thomas Jones

Hi Thomas, I'm going to agree with what 071crazy advised. For buggy you definitely want to go the B6/2058 route. B5 with the 2013 is going to be way to much power (bottom end) for a buggy imho for racing use. You are going to experience a lot of wheel spin! If you are coming from electric you are used to driving smooth and linear power and that is how the B6 was developed and this was done specifically for buggy racing because our drivers were experiencing the wheel spin issue that I mentioned. Also do not take this to mean that the B6 is not as powerful as the B5 because it is, it simply makes that power in a more useable manner for buggy racing that is all. Also in regards to the run time difference that you mentioned, yes that is what you will see in buggy.

ZERTA RACING 12-11-2012 02:11 PM

Thank you both for your input, I will be ordering a B6-pro and 2058 pipe soon. with a couple of #5 plugs.
Thanks,
-Thomas Jones

polarbear72 12-12-2012 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by ZERTA RACING (Post 11540984)
Okay,
I would like some opinions please,I have read through about 95% of the WERKS B5 thread and the B6 thread lol. I am fairly new to nitro but not new to rc. My background is electric 1/8th buggy and have been racing it for the past 4 years(expert/pro). I ran nitro about a year back for a couple of races and liked it and want to get back into it. My question is, which motor would be more like the power of an E-buggy? I am leaning towards the B5-pro with a 2013 pipe as my local track it pretty large and I will be racing nitro challenge this year. Is the 2058 better for a buggy? I am hoping to pit at 10min with that pipe and motor combo with that be realistic in buggy? I know the B6 is aimed more as a buggy motor and get better milage than the B5 but is the difference in run time really a minute to a minute and a half? I am sorry for the million questions but i just want to make the right call on motor and pipe. The reason i am going towards WERKS and not another brand is that i know there is support in these threads unlike others i have read.
Also i will be running WERKS fuel for sure.
thanks,
Thomas Jones

I would definitely go with a B6/2058 in buggy. I run buggy and truggy and have a few engines and pipes. My B5, Bonito and Ninja are great engines but the power is more suited to my truggy. For buggy I've really loved my modded B2/2013 for tighter tracks and I just raced with my new B6 pro/2058 combo and was blown away at how great of a buggy engine it is. I think it makes the same over all power as my modded Bonito, but is so much more suited to buggy. Its a very smooth and usable power. I couldn't believe how great it ran. I'm surely sold on it for buggy. But my little B2 will still see some track time, just depends on the track. Don't let the cost fool ya on that engine either

Stanfsu 12-12-2012 06:04 PM

I just purchased my first nitro Losi 2.0 that comes with a B5. I wonder if it's too much for a buggy? It's brand new, I wonder I what to do now?

JoePit 12-12-2012 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Stanfsu (Post 11548290)
I just purchased my first nitro Losi 2.0 that comes with a B5. I wonder if it's too much for a buggy? It's brand new, I wonder I what to do now?

I would run it. The B6 is better suited for the buggy, but I still see quite a few people out there running B5's in buggy. Before the B6 was available folks were running B5's. You will love the engine regardless. You could always buy a B6 down the line and keep this as a backup engine ;)

ModeratedUser13022019a 12-12-2012 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Stanfsu (Post 11548290)
I just purchased my first nitro Losi 2.0 that comes with a B5. I wonder if it's too much for a buggy? It's brand new, I wonder I what to do now?

It's definitely not too much. I've been running one in my losi 2.0 using either the 2013 or 2058 pipes and the losi steel flywheel. It has tons of rip but is still very controllable and flies down the straights.

Stanfsu 12-13-2012 04:21 AM

Perfect Thanks :D


Originally Posted by harjo (Post 11548558)
It's definitely not too much. I've been running one in my losi 2.0 using either the 2013 or 2058 pipes and the losi steel flywheel. It has tons of rip but is still very controllable and flies down the straights.


RC_Fan<o-o> 12-15-2012 06:23 AM

Great engine and Ron is helpful with any questions on his products. Great customer service.


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