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Originally Posted by Dreaming rc
(Post 8822909)
Hey there, just fired up my new b5 and i have to say it fired up just fine, here in Barrie on, Canada still 5c and it ran great,the temps never went above 135f is that fine for the first run, Thanks Ron for making a great engine, I left the settings on the engine that came out of the box, and it idled just fine,, it is cooling now,, the motor I set at bottom dead centre, any advise I need to know..
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Originally Posted by J.Sears
(Post 8823032)
On page 1 Ron explains how to break in this engine and tune it at the same time. I think 135 is way to cold. You want the temps up around 200 when breaking in an engine no matter what brand it is. It's real hard on the rod when you don't get the temps up. I'm sure someone else will agree with me on this.
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Originally Posted by 3DRCRACER
(Post 8823103)
That's affirmative. I use a heat gun/heater atleast till the metal pinch is gone.
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+1.
Use something to insulate the head during breakin. This is extremely important with cold ambient temps. It is possible to run the engine slightly rich and at 200 during the process, but insulation is necessary to make it happen during the winter. |
WERKS
My WERKS B5 powered beast. :nod:
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...n/100_0359.jpg Thanks Ron for all the help! |
Will do that for sure will try it today,thanks for all the imput..:)
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I am having what I would consider a small amount of trouble. I have a b5 2057 combo in my D8 and I for the life of me can not get more than 6 minutes runtime. The motor it good and broken in. Its running amazing but only temping around 170-180. I have tried leaning it out a little bit more but if i lean it more it just sounds to lean to me. like the top wants to pop off? I have set all my endpoints tried changing up my driving style.:confused::confused:
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Can someone better explain this step in the break-in? Doesn't seem clear to me.
"Basically what I'm doing with this system is slowly reducing the amount of lubricant being pumped through the engine while at the same time slowly increasing the amount of load that is being put on the engine. This I keep on repeating until I get to approximately the point that I'm pulling the trigger far enough that I know the low speed needle is being pulled out of the spray bar (remember we checked this initially while we had the air filter off) at which point your air gap (the amount the slide is help open by the idle stop screw) will have been reduced to aprox. 1-1.5mm." |
Originally Posted by brandundecided
(Post 8833303)
I am having what I would consider a small amount of trouble. I have a b5 2057 combo in my D8 and I for the life of me can not get more than 6 minutes runtime. The motor it good and broken in. Its running amazing but only temping around 170-180. I have tried leaning it out a little bit more but if i lean it more it just sounds to lean to me. like the top wants to pop off? I have set all my endpoints tried changing up my driving style.:confused::confused:
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Originally Posted by hookem34
(Post 8833524)
Can someone better explain this step in the break-in? Doesn't seem clear to me.
"Basically what I'm doing with this system is slowly reducing the amount of lubricant being pumped through the engine while at the same time slowly increasing the amount of load that is being put on the engine. This I keep on repeating until I get to approximately the point that I'm pulling the trigger far enough that I know the low speed needle is being pulled out of the spray bar (remember we checked this initially while we had the air filter off) at which point your air gap (the amount the slide is help open by the idle stop screw) will have been reduced to aprox. 1-1.5mm." |
Originally Posted by hookem34
(Post 8833524)
Can someone better explain this step in the break-in? Doesn't seem clear to me.
"Basically what I'm doing with this system is slowly reducing the amount of lubricant being pumped through the engine while at the same time slowly increasing the amount of load that is being put on the engine. This I keep on repeating until I get to approximately the point that I'm pulling the trigger far enough that I know the low speed needle is being pulled out of the spray bar (remember we checked this initially while we had the air filter off) at which point your air gap (the amount the slide is help open by the idle stop screw) will have been reduced to aprox. 1-1.5mm." |
Originally Posted by brandundecided
(Post 8833303)
I am having what I would consider a small amount of trouble. I have a b5 2057 combo in my D8 and I for the life of me can not get more than 6 minutes runtime. The motor it good and broken in. Its running amazing but only temping around 170-180. I have tried leaning it out a little bit more but if i lean it more it just sounds to lean to me. like the top wants to pop off? I have set all my endpoints tried changing up my driving style.:confused::confused:
Your needle ballance is off. I'm going to guess that you are running a lean bottom and a rich top so if you lean the HS any more thnengine just falls on its face. Just set the HS and LS to flush, fire up the engine blipping the throttle let the engine come back to idle and adjust the speed using the idle stop screw until it is smooth and steady. Form this point put the car on the track and adjust the HS to give you the top that you need, this will change the idle speed. Do not touch the idle stop screw but rather richen the LS to bring the idle down. Just follow the above and you should be ok. Ron |
Originally Posted by hookem34
(Post 8833524)
Can someone better explain this step in the break-in? Doesn't seem clear to me.
"Basically what I'm doing with this system is slowly reducing the amount of lubricant being pumped through the engine while at the same time slowly increasing the amount of load that is being put on the engine. This I keep on repeating until I get to approximately the point that I'm pulling the trigger far enough that I know the low speed needle is being pulled out of the spray bar (remember we checked this initially while we had the air filter off) at which point your air gap (the amount the slide is help open by the idle stop screw) will have been reduced to aprox. 1-1.5mm." The guys are correct. Just pop the airfilter off and turn on your radio and pull the trigger while looking down the throat of the carb and you will see what I mean. Once yoet tomthe point that the LS needle comes completely out of the spray bar the LS needle is no longer in play (it is no longer affecting fuel delivery). So from that point on you want tonstart adjusting the HS needle. Hope this helps clarify things! |
Originally Posted by Werks
(Post 8833985)
Your needle ballance is off. I'm going to guess that you are running a lean bottom and a rich top so if you lean the HS any more thnengine just falls on its face. Just set the HS and LS to flush, fire up the engine blipping the throttle let the engine come back to idle and adjust the speed using the idle stop screw until it is smooth and steady. Form this point put the car on the track and adjust the HS to give you the top that you need, this will change the idle speed. Do not touch the idle stop screw but rather richen the LS to bring the idle down. Just follow the above and you should be ok.
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Originally Posted by brandundecided
(Post 8835094)
The bottoms not to lean, the motor never fell on its face the motor has tons of power and had more when I leaned it it just sounded like it was reving so high it was making me nervous. Maybe its supposed to rev out like that. Even when I leaned it, it was still making good smoke. Ill give it another go and make a few laps and see where Im at.
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