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need some help
Ron or anyone else that might be able to help me...I just got a new b5 yesterday and as i was installing it into my car i noticed that the carb slide is extremely tight and actually sticks when opening and closing it. I pulled the carb out of the car and took the boot off to look and see if there was anything that looked off and it looks to be fine but it is way too tight??????? any suggestions I had set aside today to get this engine broken in because our regionals are next weekend and I wont have another day to get this done before then.
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Originally Posted by J.Sears
(Post 7866400)
Hey Ron I got one of your B5's a few weeks ago and I'm just now getting done with the break in (I've been busy) and I tried a pipe that I got about 3 years ago. I cant remember what pipe it is but I'm pretty sure it is a werks pipe. It has no numbers or any writing on it anywhere. I had a friend of mine tell me that he thought it was an 063. Do you happen to have any pics of that pipe that you could post up so I can know if thats it or not. Well any way that pipe rips on that motor one of the most powerful motors i have ever driven lol.
Regards, Ron |
Originally Posted by Brown
(Post 7866576)
Ron or anyone else that might be able to help me...I just got a new b5 yesterday and as i was installing it into my car i noticed that the carb slide is extremely tight and actually sticks when opening and closing it. I pulled the carb out of the car and took the boot off to look and see if there was anything that looked off and it looks to be fine but it is way too tight??????? any suggestions I had set aside today to get this engine broken in because our regionals are next weekend and I wont have another day to get this done before then.
Regards, Ron |
The onlway for the case to crack near the mounts is from flexx, have also seen small rocks get under the case then with the flexx cracks it the case. Werks cases have no issues with cracking, so thats cool Ron is taking care of it even though it is not a factory defect. What great service:nod:
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Originally Posted by Werks
(Post 7865513)
Man I love dealing with people like you (that sarcasm). First let me start by saying that you came on here describing an issue that you experienced then went on to ask one of those "is this normal, has anyone else seen this" kinda questions. I responded with a very normal and clear explination of what the normal causes were for case breakage basically expecting you to look into it and report back. Now unless you check everything that I mentioned and tried sanding your engine mounts to check if they are level in less than 30 minutes you are just "assuming" everything is fine. The fact that they have held 2 vspecs etc and the other sarcasm about a 2 gallon paperweight etc are not relevant to this issue (and as an FYI I've actualy seen more broken vspec cases than any other brand of engine). I'm asking you to look into something to see if it's the possible cause (as a process of elimination not to try and pass the buck and get out if gettng you back up and running). So please leave the sarcastic stuff to one of the other threads and approach this more as 2 "adults" trying to work through a problem in a mature manner. Usualy if you deal with manufacturers that way you will probably find that you get a better responce.
Regards, Ron Ok I notced that you just edited your post and tried it, thank you. Send me a pm and I'll send you our address so that you can send us your engine and well swap your case out so that you don't have a 2 gallon papeweight ;-) I hope you choose more appropriate wording in the future. There was approximately 5-6 potential B5 buyers besides me and VYPR just in Colorado, and I believe you lost most of them. Yes you have excellent customer service, especially because you are replacing his case for free!!! But the attitude you gave somebody on a public forum just because they complained about something is unacceptable especially when it could possibly be the manufacturers fault. You may not think you were giving attitude, but to the local guys in my area you sure did. I have read some of your posts to other unhappy people and while some of them may be "exaggerating," you have no right to talk to some people the way you do. Mike (just for laughs: you told him not to be sarcastic on this thread, while you may have forgotten what your first sentence stated) |
Originally Posted by mike881
(Post 7868437)
Ron,
I hope you choose more appropriate wording in the future. There was approximately 5-6 potential B5 buyers besides me and VYPR just in Colorado, and I believe you lost most of them. Yes you have excellent customer service, especially because you are replacing his case for free!!! But the attitude you gave somebody on a public forum just because they complained about something is unacceptable especially when it could possibly be the manufacturers fault. You may not think you were giving attitude, but to the local guys in my area you sure did. I have read some of your posts to other unhappy people and while some of them may be "exaggerating," you have no right to talk to some people the way you do. Mike (just for laughs: you told him not to be sarcastic on this thread, while you may have forgotten what your first sentence stated) |
I agree. The guy edited his post afterwards and Ron is still helping out as always.
Thanks for posting the you will lose 5 customer post thou as I read back thru and noticed the silver ring on the clutchbell piece. Which I have:eek: Going to check my mounts now and sing amazing grace.. |
Using 1 piece mounts will help with the engine flex. I had a Kyosho MP9 and a AE RC8B that had the 2 peice, both of them, the clutch bells hit the chassis.
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Originally Posted by Werks
(Post 7866747)
Hello Brown, first let me thank you for picking up one of our engines and apologize for the issue that you are experiencing. Just to clarify things are you seeing the binding issue with the linkage installed or also when the linkage is disconnected. Then the second thing to check is how far do you have the idle screw turned in as if it is in too far it will cause binding. So if you already adjusted this try backing it out a turn or so and see if it resolves the issue. If not then the next thing to do is completely remove the idle stop screw and now try moving the slide back and forth to see if it still binds. If not then take a look at the tip of the idle stop screw to see if there is any scoring on it. If there is then this can be cleaned up with some scotch brite pad or really fine sand paper. Then pull the slide out of the carb, once the idle stop screw is out it will slide right out the side once you pop the carb boot loose (this just has a lip that sits in a groove in the carb so just pull it up a little with your hands and it will come out). Once you have the slide out take a look at the idle stop groove that is machined in the slide. Check to see if there are any burrs by just holding a x-acto knife at and angle and running it against the edge of the groove. If this looks fine put a few drops of after run on the slide and re-install everything and see if it now all works. Let me know what you find, if this does not resolve everything let me know and I'll send you down a new slide on monday.
Regards, Ron Brown, when I opened my B5 and done a little inspection and a 'mandatory tear down' (I was drilled in this procedure by my mentor) to clean the all metal,dust and contamination out of the engine. For anyone that doesnt know,yes even a brand new,sealed in the box engine is nasty as heck! I wont bore you with the procedure(if there is anyone that has a need to know,PM me) Brown, I had noticed that the carb felt sticky...But,after I cleaned it up and lubed it up,it was smooth as glass. No need to take the carb apart in my case. Ron, heres a first report on the B5...On a fast break in and a fat tune on a JP2 pipe and a #5 plug the Werks B5 was victorious at Battlefield Raceway outside of Chattanooga,Tn. I started last as I didnt run a heat...The motor was busy idling fuel through trying to break in! The engine made it to my doorstep at 3:00pm today and was winning the A main at 8:00pm! I made the right choice when I came to you. Thanks Ron...And I hope both our weeks go better next week. Dave Longobardo |
Originally Posted by mike881
(Post 7868437)
Ron,
I hope you choose more appropriate wording in the future. There was approximately 5-6 potential B5 buyers besides me and VYPR just in Colorado, and I believe you lost most of them. Yes you have excellent customer service, especially because you are replacing his case for free!!! But the attitude you gave somebody on a public forum just because they complained about something is unacceptable especially when it could possibly be the manufacturers fault. You may not think you were giving attitude, but to the local guys in my area you sure did. I have read some of your posts to other unhappy people and while some of them may be "exaggerating," you have no right to talk to some people the way you do. Mike (just for laughs: you told him not to be sarcastic on this thread, while you may have forgotten what your first sentence stated) Now having said that responding specifically to your statement that "you would hope that I would choose more appropriate wording in the future" I went back and read through the posts and what you may or may not have noticed is that the post that I was responding to has been edited. Specifically the sarcasm that I was referring to in my original post that you quoted and which I felt that did not need to be there after I made a very normal request for some one to check a couple of things was "Nice I have a 200 dollar paperweight, that I got 2 gallons out of. fun times". Maybe I'm not the most politically correct individual but when you are first of all taking the time to help support a person after 8 o'clock on a Friday night while you are sitting at a restaurant trying to have dinner with your GF, something that I highly doubt that you will find any other company employees let alone owners on here doing (not that there are any other owners of any kind of decently sized company that I know of that even bother to post on here at all or try to support their customers after hours) is that type of comment really necessary when some one is giving you some legitimate things to take a look at in order to try and figure out what caused the problem? This is really a question that I would like your response to, when some one takes the time to give you legitimate things to look at try and figure out the cause of an issue is it appropriate to respond with sarcasm? I mean think about it, when your can breaks down do you go over to the dealership and make comments to the mechanics like "great now I have a $35K pile of junk sitting in my driveway" and expect them to smile and be happy and then on top of that bend over backwards to stay late to try and fix your car on a Friday right when they are about to close for the weekend? I highly doubt it. How about calling up the president of say GM or Ford and doing the same thing? Probably not something that a person would think of doing is it? Yet and still you seemingly fell that it is appropriate behavior that I should not have an issue with. Am I not entitled to have the expectation that people should treat me with a little bit of respect after all I am a person too right? The reality of the matter is that people need to start thinking about how they approach and interact with people. Just because some one is behind a computer monitor thousands of miles away does not give them a license to be nasty, mean, sarcastic or treat some one like dirt. Just because you own a product from a company does not entitle you to be mean, nasty, abusive, or insulting to a person that works for that company or owns it. You have no idea about some of the stuff that we as representatives of companies get to deal with on these forums but suffice to say there is a reason that almost none of the owners or even employees post on here and it is probably not because they don't care about interacting with their customers! When I was growing up my mother was always pounding something into my head about interacting with people namely she would always say to me "treat others the same way that you would want them to treat you". Think about it next time, if some one wanted you to help them out how would you want them to approach you??? I don't know about you but I honestly do not relish being on here and getting to deal with sarcastic people when you are trying to help them out or having people call you an axx hole, thief, liar, punk bxxch etc. etc. etc. all of which I can say that I have had the pleasure of experienced on this wonderful forum either as a post of via PM. So the easiest way for me to deal with that would be to simply do like everyone other manufacturer that I know of who has come on here and say if you need some help or have some questions please feel free to call the office at (408)365-1000 from 9am to 5pm PST Monday through Friday and be done with it. This way you would get the same level of non-existent support that you get from every other company. ******* I forgot to mention that none of this is meant to cause any issues with the guy that had the broken case. I believe that everything that need to be discussed was done so via PM afterward and everything should be good as far as getting his issue resolved etc. Just wanted to mention that so that there is no confusion and people do not interpret the above as an attack on him. The above is simply a response to Mike's post. ****** |
There mite have been some sarcasm in that last post.
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holy chit mang!
This is way outta hand. The only thing I will comment on as of now is my editing my post. it was edited AFTER talking to werks via pm. I removed it out because the comment made sparked this whole thing. That was NEVER my intention, I pm'd werks to ask what could be done and I posted here after asking if anyone had had this happen. So I could know if it was a problem or a fluke type of incident. Werks and I have worked thru this and things are what they are and he held true to his customer service. Now do I agree with the way the response was given? No. But, like I said, werks and I "werkd" it out. So as far as I am concerend it is nunyas business anymore. now back to the topic at hand..... just how bad is a vspec and how long didnt yours last???????????????????? |
Originally Posted by vypr2002
(Post 7868784)
holy chit mang!
This is way outta hand. The only thing I will comment on as of now is my editing my post. it was edited AFTER talking to werks via pm. I removed it out because the comment made sparked this whole thing. That was NEVER my intention, I pm'd werks to ask what could be done and I posted here after asking if anyone had had this happen. So I could know if it was a problem or a fluke type of incident. Werks and I have worked thru this and things are what they are and he held true to his customer service. Now do I agree with the way the response was given? No. But, like I said, werks and I "werkd" it out. So as far as I am concerend it is nunyas business anymore. now back to the topic at hand..... just how bad is a vspec and how long didnt yours last???????????????????? Regards, Ron |
Ron,
You are alright in my book bro. lol You coming to the Southern Nats in Monroe, LA to kick it with me and Mikey B? |
I also must add in all seriousness, that Ron is truly one of the best guys in the industry. He is on here non-stop providing any and all support needed. That kind of stuff doesn't happen anymore. Think about it, if Ron wasn't on here, how many people would have goofed and ruined an engine due to operator's error???? Ron has spent countless hours providing us with phenomenal products at an extremely low price point, much less giving us a step by step guide on how to make his engines perform flawlessly.
Ron isn't doing this just to be doing this, he is here to make sure that we all get more than we paid for. For that, I would personally like to say THANK YOU. Marcus Black |
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