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franklucas 02-08-2009 05:57 PM

hey zixxer what you running in that thing 10w40? sounds sluggish? LOL Nah man sounds real nice, i like the way the .24 crackles!

zixxer 02-08-2009 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by franklucas (Post 5405117)
hey zixxer what you running in that thing 10w40? sounds sluggish? LOL Nah man sounds real nice, i like the way the .24 crackles!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
knew i could count on my buddy ....jezz its way rich and im not sure how good its gonna be ...with a touch more fuel and um leaner out ...its crazy fast now ...but with the mod on it seems very useable and controlable...heres another one :nod:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5xUEvUje5o

zixxer 02-08-2009 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by leumas (Post 5404141)
Any idea on where the needles should have been after tuning from factory? I have tweaked on mine and seems like I don't get much bottom with the 2056 pipe. I was running 007 ht pipe. The motor also ran hotter with the 007. Thanks

on my pre-run tuned .24 it was
hsn 3/4 turn out from flush with housing
lsn flush with housing
idle 1.25 mm gap those were the rich settings

tuned settings were
hsn flush
lsn 1/4 turn in from flush
idle 1mm gap

PowerHouse 02-08-2009 06:56 PM

zixxer- looks good buddy!! I'm glad you are happy with the engine. I just wanted to throw a couple tuning tips at you to help you find the tune on it. I don't know what you are running for clutching or what the smoke look like down low but it sounds a touch lean on the bottom and a little rich on top which is a common mistake most engine tuners make. The tune doesn't sound bad but it should definately have more pop down low. It sounds flat on the bottom and doesn't seem to smoke until the midrange so what I would do is richen the LSN 1-2 hours at a time and lean in the HSN the same until you see a solid smoke trail from the time the truck responds to your throttle input until it hits peak rpm. The HSN not only dictates how much fuel is delivered at WOT but it also controls how much fuel is allowed to reach the LSN at low end operation so if you have the HSN too rich, it will give a false indication of a rich bottom end and you will feel the need to lean the LSN when in fact the HSN needs to be leaned in and the LSN richend to balance the fuel signal at all rpms. Try that out and report back to the engines response to those changes. Obviously you will most likely have to adjust the idle accordingly but that engine has alot more hidden in that thing as far as low end grunt;)

zixxer 02-08-2009 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by PowerHouse (Post 5405455)
zixxer- looks good buddy!! I'm glad you are happy with the engine. I just wanted to throw a couple tuning tips at you to help you find the tune on it. I don't know what you are running for clutching or what the smoke look like down low but it sounds a touch lean on the bottom and a little rich on top which is a common mistake most engine tuners make. The tune doesn't sound bad but it should definately have more pop down low. It sounds flat on the bottom and doesn't seem to smoke until the midrange so what I would do is richen the LSN 1-2 hours at a time and lean in the HSN the same until you see a solid smoke trail from the time the truck responds to your throttle input until it hits peak rpm. The HSN not only dictates how much fuel is delivered at WOT but it also controls how much fuel is allowed to reach the LSN at low end operation so if you have the HSN too rich, it will give a false indication of a rich bottom end and you will feel the need to lean the LSN when in fact the HSN needs to be leaned in and the LSN richend to balance the fuel signal at all rpms. Try that out and report back to the engines response to those changes. Obviously you will most likely have to adjust the idle accordingly but that engine has alot more hidden in that thing as far as low end grunt;)

preciate the help yeh that video represented the first 2 tanks i ran through it ,,,,but its gonna be sweet when its dialed in ...probably need another few tanks through it before i will get down to dialing it all the way in ....just pretty impressive that i through it down not touching anything ...and i could have raced it ....sweet...it will get run on the 21st at a local club race ...i hope to have it broke in and dialed in alittle more .....m2c 4 shoe aluminum reg hard shoes and staggered 1.0 and .95 springs ...the track im running on the 21st is loose loamy topsoil ...not much traction .....the freakin 053 pipe motors on that thing ....im gonna have to get the big boy coming ...my birthday is next week ....hoping to score it then ,,,,,,,,:nod::tire:

PowerHouse 02-08-2009 07:51 PM

It certainly does not sound bad at all for just starting the breakin and just throwing it on the ground with the original carb settings. The clutch springs are light as well so that will definately hurt the bottom end clutch response running on pavement with great traction. It can be hard to hear the difference between a clutch bog on pavement versus a lean bog on the engine. Just wanted to throw the tuning tip out there so you and anyone else out there that may have encountered a similar low end issue would have something to try out to see if they can't get it cleaned up. Definately let us know how the race goes and definately run the lighter clutching on the loomy surface. The motor does sound beautiful on the stand so it has the power lurking inside, just needs to be tweaked to get it there.

zixxer 02-09-2009 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by bottomline2000 (Post 5400994)
thanks for the honesty. I placed the order for the big boy pipe..just couldn't wait to order. I'll give it a week and see how things go. I'll get the plugs if al works out when I order the 24.

oh, i subscribed...lol.:lol:


Originally Posted by PowerHouse (Post 5405820)
It certainly does not sound bad at all for just starting the breakin and just throwing it on the ground with the original carb settings. The clutch springs are light as well so that will definately hurt the bottom end clutch response running on pavement with great traction. It can be hard to hear the difference between a clutch bog on pavement versus a lean bog on the engine. Just wanted to throw the tuning tip out there so you and anyone else out there that may have encountered a similar low end issue would have something to try out to see if they can't get it cleaned up. Definately let us know how the race goes and definately run the lighter clutching on the loomy surface. The motor does sound beautiful on the stand so it has the power lurking inside, just needs to be tweaked to get it there.

oh yeh ...cant wait ....and much appreciate the tuning stuff ...i can usauly get close but every little bit helps ....will definitely be up to 1.1's or 1.05's wheni get on a track that has some bite .....it just sings....and man that idle is just stupid right now ...once cranked it would have isled for 2 days ....awesome work again ....

slaytanic 02-09-2009 06:34 AM

I had a good day yesterday with the extech II. Only 2nd time out with this mill vs my old eewwwwB mods mill. ran a 7 min C main and bumped up. Next main was 10 min. I had a first timer pit me so I decided to just push it a bit. He topped me off before the drop and off I went. Ran straight through with madpower. I could make passes on the straight. Came off the track @ 206 after 25 minutes straight track time. Finished the 10 minute main with a sip still in the tank. I am sure I can stretch it a bit more with some more fuel through it. This was on the 2056 pipe with a P4 plug. VERY impressed with this offering from Trinity over the first full mod version. IMO it beats out a v spec in EVERY department.

bottomline2000 02-09-2009 11:23 PM

extech fm 24
 
finally was able to get the full mod 24 ordered. Can't wait to run it. Zixxer, the Bat pipe is on back order again. I'm glad i odered it when I did. we'll see how things go when I get everything together. I'm going to run the ODO 97T plugs too.

Chad Phillips 02-10-2009 10:10 AM

Hello Boys and Girls,

Im back now for GA.. Just wanted to let everyone know.. if u need fuel for motorama, it is back in stock.. we ran out again and it just showed up..


thank you

Chad

BAUSTIN 02-10-2009 10:15 AM

did you like the MP-9 Chad?......nice qualifying effort for you and Dupree with the X-Tech power.......i never saw the full rundown.....

EllisDee 02-10-2009 12:15 PM

Chad,

It was nice meeting you this weekend at the Psycho race and thanks again for replacing the carb on my extech. That was really unexpected and great customer support!

What was the sealant you recommended to seal the carb area (all I remember was it was black - I was running on about 5 hours of sleep for the weekend - everything is kinda a blur)?


Thanks again!

zixxer 02-10-2009 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by EllisDee (Post 5413782)
Chad,

It was nice meeting you this weekend at the Psycho race and thanks again for replacing the carb on my extech. That was really unexpected and great customer support!

What was the sealant you recommended to seal the carb area (all I remember was it was black - I was running on about 5 hours of sleep for the weekend - everything is kinda a blur)?


Thanks again!


just chimming in here ...it was probably lucky seven air seal //////

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/25728

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/17237

glad everyone had fun at the pnb ...went last year and man it was fun and man i was tired :lol:

tom slick 50 02-10-2009 06:30 PM

WHO OTHER THAN A MAIN SALES THE BIG BOY PIPE THE SIRIO 2056 IS THE SAME PIPE BUT COST MOR MONEY

zixxer 02-11-2009 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by tom slick 50 (Post 5415408)
WHO OTHER THAN A MAIN SALES THE BIG BOY PIPE THE SIRIO 2056 IS THE SAME PIPE BUT COST MOR MONEY

STOP YELLING IT HURTS MY EYES :lol:

not sure just call trinity and ask for chad ...they should be back in stock ...they had just gotten them at amain ,,,and everyone just bought em up ....maybe chad will let us know when they are back in stock ....i will be getting one here shortly when they come back in stock


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