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chickenfarmer 12-31-2008 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 5231138)
More like the Xerox needs some ink...:lol:


Xerox may be low on ink but at least I dont have to worry about my engine going TINK!

:P

chickenfarmer 12-31-2008 02:58 PM

:0

zixxer 12-31-2008 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 5232123)
No secret, just the cost of a new plug and some accurate measurements..
Anyway... Here on the Northeast the temps in the summer are usually pretty hot, and humid...requiring a hott plug.. The P4 is usually good most of the time, but I'm pretty excited to try the new P5 this year on a nice clear day.. Good Luck ! ;)


birmingham,alabama.....we race locally here with alan burton ,shane keller ,scott porter, bradley seales ,morris spears ...in the summer its usually 80-90 deg f. and like 70 80 % humididty .....

jpalessi 12-31-2008 03:06 PM

;)

jpalessi 12-31-2008 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by chickenfarmer (Post 5232198)
Xerox may be low on ink but at least I dont have to worry about my engine going TINK!

:P

I'm busting on one Chad, and i get the other....WTF! :lol::lol:

chickenfarmer 12-31-2008 03:09 PM

LOLOL!!

tenpins77 12-31-2008 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by chickenfarmer (Post 5232198)
Xerox may be low on ink but at least I dont have to worry about my engine going TINK!

:P

:tire::tire::tire::tire::tire::tire::tire:

zixxer 12-31-2008 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 5232233)
You need a P4 dude..



ehhhhhhhhhhhhh ....just cant subscribe to that corporation .....but i may try a 99t cold if the 97t doesnt work out ....will let ya know how it goes ...thanks again

franklucas 12-31-2008 04:24 PM

i ran the p3 and it was too hot so i went to a p4 and what a world of difference smoother idle easier to tune!!!!

zixxer 01-01-2009 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by franklucas (Post 5232567)
i ran the p3 and it was too hot so i went to a p4 and what a world of difference smoother idle easier to tune!!!!

Hey frank ...let us know how its going getting that last bit of breakin done ....i may be a bit more delayed as i may send mine off to get the mod treatment before i even start ...havent decided yet .....:nod:

franklucas 01-01-2009 03:24 PM

ran another two tanks today ruch settings friday i plan to lean alittle and run two more. nothing unusual idles all day long no problem though. I open the idle screw 1/2 turn during start up let it sit 30 - 45 seconds short blips to warm in up a little and once it warms return the idle screw to its original setting, once its warm it will idle for minutes with a little hicup under aceleration. I'm gonna lean the top a little and let er rip!!

RickBac 01-01-2009 04:52 PM

just started to break in my Extech using trinity medium plug. it would idle for about a minute then the revs would go way up. Temps around 230 with sidewinder 20%. I reduce the idle and it comes down a little then after about another minute the revs jump way up again. Am I doing something wrong. Never had this on a break in before. Thanks

cdbias 01-01-2009 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by RickBac (Post 5236691)
just started to break in my Extech using trinity medium plug. it would idle for about a minute then the revs would go way up. Temps around 230 with sidewinder 20%. I reduce the idle and it comes down a little then after about another minute the revs jump way up again. Am I doing something wrong. Never had this on a break in before. Thanks


Do you live at a high elevation? I live in WV and the same thing happens here. I turn the idle down about 3/4 turn before I even fire one up for the first time.

franklucas 01-01-2009 05:48 PM

i would think 230 would be to high for the extech? with race tune in the summer around 195 and if i leaned it too much it would go into the 220 range and not run well. just a thought. mine idles all day at 165 yours reving up would seem like a air leak to me? what medium plug?

RickBac 01-01-2009 06:14 PM

I am in Phoenix so alt is no prob. I am using the Trinity medium turbo plug. There is no number on it. I did not hi temp seal the carb or back plate. Should I?

The low speed is set 5 turns out (came from fractory that way) High speed needle is very tight, flush with top of brass fitting. I have been reducing the idle but it is way less than 1mm now. Thanks again

franklucas 01-01-2009 06:18 PM

i would use these settings:

hsn set flush then turn it out 7/8 turn

lsn flush with housing then 1/4 turn out

idle gap 1.25 mm

use a p4 plug not knowing the plug number sucks lol hard to diagnose

franklucas 01-01-2009 06:21 PM

you have pm rick

RickBac 01-01-2009 06:41 PM

here is the plug. Trinity number 6

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/26711

Frank, I am going to finish break in on Sat. I may call if I have a problem. Thanks

chickenfarmer 01-01-2009 06:51 PM

I got about a half gallon thru my .24 tonight. All I can say is WOW!! 11 minutes a tank and still pretty rich. Smooth power everywhere and plenty of it.

AMEZCUA 01-01-2009 07:05 PM

Trinity EB MODS .21 Power Box Kit
 
I WANT TO BUY IN AMAINHOBBIES THE Trinity EB MODS .21 Power Box Kit with Kyosho, Mugen, X-Ray Style Clutch
[trI40201RP] BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHICH IS THE ENGINGE THAT COME IN THIS PACK?

IN THE DECRIPTION SAID EB MODS .21 BUT WHAT IS EXACTLY THE ENGINE OF THESE THREE OPTIONS:

[trI40066]
(TRI40064]
[trI40060]

http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.ph...&filter_mfr=67

THANK YOU.

Teufel Racing 01-01-2009 07:13 PM

The stock numbers should be
060-Stock Ex-Tech Not modded or broke in
064-Race prepped motor Broke in and flow tested
066-Full mod motor basically the same as the 064, but has a full mod on the motor

The Power box you were looking at should have the 066 full mod motor in it.

Hope that helped.

jpalessi 01-01-2009 07:27 PM

The 2.0 engines aren't flow tested, or dyno tested..

franklucas 01-01-2009 07:30 PM

hey jpalessi what exactly lis flow tested I have a general idea but just wanted a detailed explanation what they do and what they are looking for? thanks I'm glad my new extech was a ebmod one! was mad at first but then I thought about it and i was glad.

slaytanic 01-01-2009 07:45 PM

Comment edited. It's all good jpalessi!

AMEZCUA 01-01-2009 07:49 PM

THANKS TEUFEL RACING

WHAT DO YOU THING FOR THIS POWER BOX? I WANT MOUNT IN MY MBX6

ONE FRIEND BUY ONLY THE FULL MODED .21 ENGINE BUT IT COST $465 IN AMAIN, THIS PACK COME WITH PIPE AND CLUTCH, WHATH DO YOU THING FOR THE PRICE.

IF THIS POWER BOX COME WITH THE 066 FULL MOD IS GOOD PRICE.

jpalessi 01-01-2009 07:56 PM

;)

jpalessi 01-01-2009 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by franklucas (Post 5237487)
hey jpalessi what exactly lis flow tested I have a general idea but just wanted a detailed explanation what they do and what they are looking for? thanks I'm glad my new extech was a ebmod one! was mad at first but then I thought about it and i was glad.

Franklucas: here is a pic of the testing cell.. Flow bench on the left is used to test flow of Carbs, Engines, Velocity stacks ect.. a real time computer read out, shows flow of whatever we're testing..
This is used for R&D, and for QC (Quality Control)
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ingCellPic.jpg

Teufel Racing 01-02-2009 01:19 AM

Palessi,
Thanks for correcting me on that. Wasn't meaning to mislead. I didn't take into account the 1.0 and 2.0 mills. Other than that I think I was on track.

Amezcua,
Not 100% pos. on power box that A-Main has listed. When they first got the Ex-Tech.s in the descriptions weren't very clear. I think they corrected that, but I haven't looked.
The power box is a very good deal if you are in need of a new pipe to go with the motor and the power box comes with a clutch set up (another plus). Even if its only the "Race Prepped" version, its still worth it. If there is a full modded motor in there, even more so. I haven't run a full modded Ex-Tech yet so I don't have any info to say that its better or not. Haven't run the Ex-Tech clutch setup either, but I do like the idea of the spring tension adjustment.
I run the "Race Prepped" motors and that is plenty for me. I don't feel the motor is lacking in any area, mostly it is I that is lacking out on the track.

Team Chambers 01-02-2009 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by chickenfarmer (Post 5237288)
I got about a half gallon thru my .24 tonight. All I can say is WOW!! 11 minutes a tank and still pretty rich. Smooth power everywhere and plenty of it.


What pipe & plug were you running. WAS yours a full mod?

I ran my Race Prepped .24 for the first time yesterday and loved it. Unfortunately I was running a P6 plug and a JP 4 Pipe as that is all I had available and couldn't wait any longer LOL.

I was running on the slightly on rich side on top but was only getting about 8.5 mins out of it. Our track is pretty open, so full throtle about 30% of the runtime

chickenfarmer 01-02-2009 06:21 AM

mine is the Race Prepped version, I ran it with a os 2060, my extech pipe should be here today. The track I was on is kinda tight, but I was purposely driving it very hard to see what kinda run time I would get.

Chad Phillips 01-02-2009 06:31 AM

JP - i appreciate you coming on here and commenting. BUT you don't know what I do here with each engine before it's shipped. So please stop trying to come up with negative or false info on our engine to help Ed's cause with the Go Techs. Yes we are friends and talk on IM from time to time but what your doing is not needed.

Our engines are awesome, I examine each engine throughly and break it in before it leaves the building. IF anyone has a problem, I will fix it and they will actually get a return email, phone call, and explaination to what the problem is and they wont be waiting months to hear back about where there engine is...

Chad Phillips 01-02-2009 06:34 AM

Ric - FYI - try what frank said.. and our engines are shimmed for 30%.. also make sure clinch bolt is tight.. I've seen consumers not tighten them.. ;) let me know if u have anymore trouble..

Team Chambers 01-02-2009 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Chad Phillips (Post 5239305)
Our engines are awesome, I examine each engine throughly and break it in before it leaves the building. IF anyone has a problem, I will fix it and they will actually get a return email, phone call, and explaination to what the problem is and they wont be waiting months to hear back about where there engine is...

Chad is the EXTECH .24 Motor I recieved from Amain with the EB mods sticker in it and the dyno sheet one of your motors? I am lost here?

Would you be the one to service it if it needs it? Down the road do you do any re-pinching of the sleeve and check rod and crank specs out to see if it is worth pinching again for another 4 gallons or so after I hope my first 8 to 10.

THX

cdbias 01-02-2009 06:39 AM

+1 Chad

For the rest of you use the X-tech #5 plug. It is a lot easier to tune opposed to the #6

Team Chambers 01-02-2009 06:46 AM

Rod Replacement
 
Chad,

When is it generally recommended to replace the Rod on the EXTECH motors under normal circumstances.

I have had RB motors (c6) last 8 gallons and My GoTechs usually around 3 to 4 sometimes longer.

Chad Phillips 01-02-2009 06:46 AM

Chambers - Amain still had a few of .24 Eb's left in stock.. so there is a few of those floating around out there.. all the .21's in circulation should be the 2.0.. we have been out of those for a while and now there back in stock with the new ones..

yes i am the one servicing all the engines now.. :)

Happy New Year everyone..

Chad Phillips 01-02-2009 07:02 AM

Chmabers - good question! I have seen 4-8 gallons depending on the person. I had 5 team guys return there engines and they had problems. come to find out the rods were toast. they had 2-4 gallons on there's. Now I know myself and a few other team guy had 6-8 gallons before they needed to be replaced. The difference between the guys who had issues early and the others who didnt.. was break in process.

EB was breaking in our engines on a stand wide open super rich with 500cc of fuel ran through them.

Myself and a few others were breaking them in slowly on a stand with heat cycles.

Now to deceide which way is right or wrong.... who can say.. Everyone has there own opinions and voo doo break in processes. I just know from my experiences slow is better and until someone figures out a better way I will keep doing it slowly..

Chris Reilly 01-02-2009 07:09 AM

Chad I don't know either of you. Talk like that is a good reason not to buy a product. You can correct info with out being nasty. The PC stuff doesn't work. Everyone can see right through it. People make mistakes helping sometimes. Give people the benefit. I bet you make them all the time. I know I do.

MattP 01-02-2009 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Chad Phillips (Post 5239339)
Chambers - Amain still had a few of .24 Eb's left in stock.. so there is a few of those floating around out there.. all the .21's in circulation should be the 2.0.. we have been out of those for a while and now there back in stock with the new ones..

yes i am the one servicing all the engines now.. :)

Happy New Year everyone..



Chad thanks for coming on here. I have one question though.

I was on Amain's site and was looking at the extech EB Mods box set with the losi clutch. Is this the standard untouched engine or the worked version by Ed or worked by you? I'm just getting confused since things have changed a little with the extechs recently. Either way it seems like a decent deal for the price of $395.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/29953

franklucas 01-02-2009 07:52 AM

thanks chad for coming in here almost every day and promoting, "Customer Support." You don't jam Trinity down everyones throat you just give excellent customer support and that means a lot when I decided what engine to purchase.


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