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Alright, so I guess I am going to tear my GO .21 5 PORT MODDED engine down and rebuild. It is 2 Gallons of Trinity 30% old. I think the front bearing went. The engine was acting like it had a nasty air leak and the lower crank case was getting wayyy too wet for me to be comfortable. Looking for some advice on how to rebuild this thing. I figure I might as well either replace the piston and sleeve or at least get it repinched.
1. Where do I get a main bearing for this thing? 2. How do I change out the main bearing? I have heard about an oven? 3. Are there other bearings I need to chang out while its torn down? 4. I am clueless as to what to do with the piston and sleeve. 5. What about other internals? Am I replacing anything else??? THANKS! |
Originally Posted by mattyb13
(Post 6053336)
Alright, so I guess I am going to tear my GO .21 5 PORT MODDED engine down and rebuild. It is 2 Gallons of Trinity 30% old. I think the front bearing went. The engine was acting like it had a nasty air leak and the lower crank case was getting wayyy too wet for me to be comfortable. Looking for some advice on how to rebuild this thing. I figure I might as well either replace the piston and sleeve or at least get it repinched.
1. Where do I get a main bearing for this thing? 2. How do I change out the main bearing? I have heard about an oven? 3. Are there other bearings I need to chang out while its torn down? 4. I am clueless as to what to do with the piston and sleeve. 5. What about other internals? Am I replacing anything else??? THANKS! Since you have it apart you might as well change the rod and piston pin and clips. I charge $35.00 to rebuild and replace bearings, rod, etc. This would include pinching the sleeve if it needs it, also includes return shipping in the Usa. Here's a breakdown of the parts cost, I usually have all this in stock. A new piston and sleeve is a pain, you have to go through the whole break in process. I have pinched motors 3-4 times. Rear Tko ceramic $22.99 Front Tko ceramic $15.00 Go rod $18.69 piston pin $3.39 clips $1.69 I use a bore guage to check the rod, if it is worn less than .001 I would just leave it. Rex |
Motor ran great for 2 hours of practice today. However, I noticed a fin broke sometime during the last tank of the night. I went ahead and ordered one of the Donut Racing heads, but does anyone know if the Gen 6 heads have any improvements in this area?
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Does anyone know if you can turn a 7 port into a 5 port. Looking at the parts listing it is the same for the 5 and 7 block. If so do I need to shim it any different.
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Originally Posted by NitroNewbie
(Post 6060217)
Does anyone know if you can turn a 7 port into a 5 port. Looking at the parts listing it is the same for the 5 and 7 block. If so do I need to shim it any different.
If nobody wants to buy my MM stage 5 7 port p/r/s I'm goig to keep it and just fit it to my 3 port R when it wears out..mind you once my MG66 arrives I don't think my 3 port will be getting much runtime.. |
Dunut Racing Heads are aewsome. I have the low profile 1 and like it alot I think its 1-2 fins lower. Fins I have seen break on stockers is when the body hole for the head doesnt have enough clearance and hits a fin constantly and 1 will break. I have never seen a top fin break. I think the new line has some cooling holes which is cool and makes it alittle lighter. MattyB I see no need for a pinch at 2 gallons. My PTM 5 port is coming up on 4 gallons and is still tight, I say I will get at least 4 more out of it. I at 2 gallons did TKO's rod pin and clips. My Powerhouse 3 port I will not be changing the rod at 2 gallons probably 4. I heated it every time I fired it and it only got stuck once and its broke in now. I will check the rod but I know it wont need 1 as early as the 5 or 7 ports. I want to put 1 of them 100% ceramic bearings in the rear of my 3 port when I can find 1. If it aint $50 LOL.
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anyone got donuts contact info and/or a photo of these heads?
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I found the site:
http://donutracing.com |
Originally Posted by Gizmatron
(Post 6060468)
If nobody wants to buy my MM stage 5 7 port p/r/s I'm goig to keep it and just fit it to my 3 port R when it wears out.
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Dean-Donut has a thread on here. If you cant contact him PM meI have his number.
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Well, to grizz/matt- I tried changing the bearings on my 7 port today. The engine is not broken in yet but developed an air leak around the front bearing. As you know I asked for help. I got help. I watched the utube video of the guy heating up the block and hitting it firmly on the piece of wood-that did not work for me. In the oven for 45 minutes at 300 also did not work for me. It helped when I used the ofna puller/installer. actually when I do my next engine I will take a heat gun and warm case up that way. what a pain in the ass. I also managed to kiss my ebmodded 5 port good bye. I am totally to blame for this one. c clip pooped out ruined every thing except for the crank. which by looking at it must have already pretty much gone when I replaced the wrist pin con rod. It fit good when i installed because it was ovaled. Had I mic'ed it I would have known. Newbie mistake. One other lesson I have learned never buy used engines or electronics. So as soon as I let the sealant dry on this engine I am going to check for leaks and hopefully I will have to stock 7 ports that I can use until the new go engine line comes out. All in all I am glad I tried this only because I learned something. :lol::weird::cry: all at the same time.
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malik you should have stayed the other day we got it all in with good results. Although I broke a fin on the motor. Im finding that this seems common in these motors.
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Originally Posted by bigmatt
(Post 6062392)
Well, to grizz/matt- I tried changing the bearings on my 7 port today. The engine is not broken in yet but developed an air leak around the front bearing. As you know I asked for help. I got help. I watched the utube video of the guy heating up the block and hitting it firmly on the piece of wood-that did not work for me. In the oven for 45 minutes at 300 also did not work for me. It helped when I used the ofna puller/installer. actually when I do my next engine I will take a heat gun and warm case up that way. what a pain in the ass. I also managed to kiss my ebmodded 5 port good bye. I am totally to blame for this one. c clip pooped out ruined every thing except for the crank. which by looking at it must have already pretty much gone when I replaced the wrist pin con rod. It fit good when i installed because it was ovaled. Had I mic'ed it I would have known. Newbie mistake. One other lesson I have learned never buy used engines or electronics. So as soon as I let the sealant dry on this engine I am going to check for leaks and hopefully I will have to stock 7 ports that I can use until the new go engine line comes out. All in all I am glad I tried this only because I learned something. :lol::weird::cry: all at the same time.
That is the beauty of the GRP puller I keep going on about (the one we can't afford :smile:). It has a set of expanding fingers that screw out and grip the inner race of the bearing. You can then pull the bearing out cold if you need to :weird: but I wouldn't. I have just ordered the OFNA puller last night after giving it some thought. I just can't justify around 300 of our dollars on something I might only use a few times a year. That's sad about the EB Mods too. BUMMER. Never mind, a stock 7 Port with .3 or .4 mm of head shims fitted (25%) and a 2072 will be more than competitive :nod: |
Ok my head hurts now from reading the last 50 pages or so. I believe I read on here(can't remember when) that someone is using fuel tubing as an o ring replacement? I have a stock 7port believe gen 4 or 5. I run on 20% with only 1 copper shim(plus button) i believe .4mm total as i recall. Are the carb settings given in these last few posts ok to start with on 20%? It seems that most of the posts refer to 30% I'm using 20% as I was told that it is easier on the engine. Is this correct, my boys and I don't drive well enough yet to need the extra power of 30%. Just looking for reliability and ease in tuning. We run OD plugs 97T but just ordered 77T's also and engine usually only gets to 190 or so.
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Originally Posted by Babygrand48
(Post 6062624)
Ok my head hurts now from reading the last 50 pages or so. I believe I read on here(can't remember when) that someone is using fuel tubing as an o ring replacement? I have a stock 7port believe gen 4 or 5. I run on 20% with only 1 copper shim(plus button) i believe .4mm total as i recall. Are the carb settings given in these last few posts ok to start with on 20%? It seems that most of the posts refer to 30% I'm using 20% as I was told that it is easier on the engine. Is this correct, my boys and I don't drive well enough yet to need the extra power of 30%. Just looking for reliability and ease in tuning. We run OD plugs 97T but just ordered 77T's also and engine usually only gets to 190 or so.
20% is fine, and is a little easier on the motor overall. Tuning won't differ too much. You normally will run a little richer with less nitro content as opposed to settings for say 25%, but it's only a small change. With 20% the warmer 77T's will probably go better. Should give a better idle and smoother running with the 20% fuel. You could also try an OS P5 too (med/hot). Shimming sounds OK at .4mm total for the 20% with med/hot plug. The fuel tubing O rings work great (that was me). If you can find the post about 5 - 10 pages back it tells you all the details. If not, PM me. :cool: |
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