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Old 08-02-2013, 11:24 AM   #871
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That isn't proof it's a bad car, just different from the RRR is all. The car has proven it can win in capable hands.

I see no point in bashing the car constantly as you've done throughout this entire thread.
Bro I'm not bashing it........I'm only speaking my mind, it's constructive n necessary, if designers n engineers care about what they built they will take feedback from the people who put money in their pockets!!!! Answer me one question. not that it matters. But who runs the R4? (Not Shiimo) What pro is running the R4? Like I said it doesn't matter, but if kyosho doesn't bother to have a pilot for the R4 do u think they really care how the car performs.....no upgrades no revisions nothing......on parts that clearly need it.......read Xray mark post, he broke a part that he knew to b careful with cause others have broke the part and posted there findings! But will there b a running change from kyosho? (Dought it). For anyone who thinks what I've said is bashing prob didn't run the RRR, so u have no idea what the R4 came from........A BEAST! that never broke I just want kyosho to fight for the top spot like Xray n Capricorn clearly r doing!!! They never let the other get one up!!! U will have the same parts on ur car 3yrs from now! Not one updated thing! Lol!
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:08 PM   #872
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Ok ok I'm sorry I don't wanna get banned again........(keep this in mind). I'm not bashing kyosho, I love kyosho products, ran the RRR for YEARS, I'm speaking from experience, I watched 2 very good racers/track owner have so many issues n inconsistancies he sold it, the other is still with it, but is now on a level with guys that he was destroying with his RRR, now he's battling them for position with R4! Smh (went backwards) you all who run this will understand what I mean , when u finally RUN SOMETHING ELSE! Smh
No problem,I know what you meant to say.For me the RRR is the best nitro tourer ever,durability-performance and parts wise is mind blowing,the R4 is not that way.It's lighter and requires a different setup,parts are expensive but some drivers just deal with it.I say good luck to them,have fun above all things.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:29 PM   #873
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Bro I'm not bashing it........I'm only speaking my mind, it's constructive n necessary, if designers n engineers care about what they built they will take feedback from the people who put money in their pockets!!!! Answer me one question. not that it matters. But who runs the R4? (Not Shiimo) What pro is running the R4? Like I said it doesn't matter, but if kyosho doesn't bother to have a pilot for the R4 do u think they really care how the car performs.....no upgrades no revisions nothing......on parts that clearly need it.......read Xray mark post, he broke a part that he knew to b careful with cause others have broke the part and posted there findings! But will there b a running change from kyosho? (Dought it). For anyone who thinks what I've said is bashing prob didn't run the RRR, so u have no idea what the R4 came from........A BEAST! that never broke I just want kyosho to fight for the top spot like Xray n Capricorn clearly r doing!!! They never let the other get one up!!! U will have the same parts on ur car 3yrs from now! Not one updated thing! Lol!
I would hardly call "stare at it and it'll break" constructive. I think everyone here knows your views on the R4. Not sure your kind of "constructive criticism" is really needed.
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Old 08-02-2013, 05:03 PM   #874
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Don't you see that Kyosho last years is interesting only for OFF-ROAD?
They let so many good onroad drivers to leave.

For example Kyosho Designer Shimo goes to Mugen and guess what he winning again, Bertin is again in top of the list.

Suddenly they aren't good drivers?No, it seems that Kyosho (for the moment) want to focus on RTRs and Offroad.

And the list continues. Don't blame yourself.

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Old 08-03-2013, 06:05 AM   #875
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Not trying to b a di#k, but Bro i hopeu got that for a couple hundred dollars! Rc cars are already over priced! But That one is at the top of the list!! Smh man u could have made 5 better choices lol everyone i kno had that car, went backwards with lap times! wtf! N it breaks from staring at it to long lmao! Sorry Bro goodluck, nice receiver box tho!
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Nice to see people still fequenting this thread. Rrr driver, from a 3rd party perspective you have waged a one man anti r4 campaign in this thread! lol!, Although i do agree that a pilot could well be dissapointed after "upgrading", there seemed to be something special about the rrr. The evo 2 that i had in some ways seemed superior to the newer model, ie monoblock engine mount and cvd's Shame really as the r4 looks fabulous. I feel kyosho know there were some problems with the og r4 hence the r4sp which should be much better But i agree with rrrdriver on one point, after building the r4 i would never pay full rrp for a kyosho kit. I am an avid xray fan and have owned or currently own most of the cars and have an nt1 wce ( car in pic) Maybe i have been spoiled by xray but the manual, build, fit and finish and parts quality (carbon fibre and composites) is FAR superior to the r4stock for less money. Although i will admit the kyosho "velvet" shocks are very nice. As an aside, is that correct that shimo does not pilot an r4?. If so that is not a good look.
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:46 AM   #876
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Shimo is with mugen now.
Judging by the look of the car (R4) it looks like a great car, and being the newest car after the triple RRR. I really can't believe the R4 is a POS. my RRR just got shelfed after 1full season. Only shelved it cause I was the only one still racing it a my home track. I moved on to a NT1, the RRR just worked on any and every track I've been to. My NT1 is just a tank, the quality of parts are second to none. Before I bought the Xray I was really set on the R4 even with all the negative posts about it I just couldn't believe it was a worse car than the RRR. Anyway the car looks good but the price is way too high and not having a pro in their camp just doesn't make sense.
Either stick with your RRR or go Xray.
IMO the designer of the RRR is now working with hot bodies and the R10 has some real close similarities to the RRR just modernized. And the Km Hk1 would be the closest to a new RRR
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Does anyone know where i could get a capricorn clutch that will fit this car?
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:09 AM   #878
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I've been having a lot of problems with traction rolling lately. Funny thing is it only starts to happen during the last minute of a 5 minute qualifier. I set my ride height at 6.5 rear and 4.5 front with 62.5MM rear tire and 60.5 front. I then throw on 60MM rears and 58MM fronts for the qualifiers and main. I use 32shore fronts and 35 shore rears and sometimes 35 shore all the way around.

Anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do to help with this problem?
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What are your droops and track width ?
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-1 front +3 rear. Not sure what the track width is.

I'm just trying to figure out why the car is good for the 1st 3-4 minutes but then all of a sudden I start traction rolling in 1 particular section. I ran the same line with about the same lap times.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:49 AM   #881
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droops front 0 or +1; rear 3 or 4.

ride height at 6.5 rear and 4.5 front? not 5.5 in front?
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:31 AM   #882
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Ride is 4.5mm in front as was suggested by EVasutin. He suggested I set the ride height using 62.5mm rear tires and 60.5mm front then set my rear to 6.5 and front to 4.5 unless I miss heard him.
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V One R4 Electric conversion set. Part Number VZE001
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:48 AM   #884
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V One R4 Electric conversion set. Part Number VZE001
The main question there is: Will it have the same perfomance as the Nitro version?
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:05 AM   #885
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Hmmm
How about a Electric to nitro conversion?
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