52LikesEuropean 2wd 1/8th pan car on-road Classic class
02-23-2012, 02:49 AM
#1231
I just came across this thread by chance while checking to see if MORR is hosting a race this year (guess not).
I can say as one who stopped 1/8 and could not keep up, the biggest issue was no track time to set the car up. No way to break an engine in before a race (suburban home neighborhood).
The appeal to me in this new car seems to be that there is very little 'setup' is that right? I could plop it on the track and race without having to worry if there is an air bubble in a shock or if I have the right front springs and ride height, toe in, etc bla bla bla.
Also, two potentially dumb questions. They have a diff yes? no? I recall from the 1/10 2wd days that keeping a diff happy was a full time job (at least for this novice)
Lastly, they are single speed but is there is one-way bearing? Do they freewheel when you are off the gas like a 2 speed or do they engine-brake like a RTR single speed.
I can say as one who stopped 1/8 and could not keep up, the biggest issue was no track time to set the car up. No way to break an engine in before a race (suburban home neighborhood).
The appeal to me in this new car seems to be that there is very little 'setup' is that right? I could plop it on the track and race without having to worry if there is an air bubble in a shock or if I have the right front springs and ride height, toe in, etc bla bla bla.
Also, two potentially dumb questions. They have a diff yes? no? I recall from the 1/10 2wd days that keeping a diff happy was a full time job (at least for this novice)
Lastly, they are single speed but is there is one-way bearing? Do they freewheel when you are off the gas like a 2 speed or do they engine-brake like a RTR single speed.
Cars are single speed, without one way. It's not necessary. Actually, in 4wd, 1way bearings in the gearboxes are there to free first gear when the second is in, not to free wheels. To free wheels is the work of the front one ways.
Modern pan cars are very fast. The difference between modern & "old skool" is abysmal. A car like the Z1 above is as fast as 1/10 in lap times, and sometimes few Km/h faster than a 1/8 on the straight.
Of course, having a gear ratio next to the 2nd gear of a 1/8, is slower coming out of hair pins.
I forgot. I drive a Mantua Intrepid.
02-23-2012, 05:50 AM
#1232
I just came across this thread by chance while checking to see if MORR is hosting a race this year (guess not).
I can say as one who stopped 1/8 and could not keep up, the biggest issue was no track time to set the car up. No way to break an engine in before a race (suburban home neighborhood).
The appeal to me in this new car seems to be that there is very little 'setup' is that right? I could plop it on the track and race without having to worry if there is an air bubble in a shock or if I have the right front springs and ride height, toe in, etc bla bla bla.
Also, two potentially dumb questions. They have a diff yes? no? I recall from the 1/10 2wd days that keeping a diff happy was a full time job (at least for this novice)
Lastly, they are single speed but is there is one-way bearing? Do they freewheel when you are off the gas like a 2 speed or do they engine-brake like a RTR single speed.
I can say as one who stopped 1/8 and could not keep up, the biggest issue was no track time to set the car up. No way to break an engine in before a race (suburban home neighborhood).
The appeal to me in this new car seems to be that there is very little 'setup' is that right? I could plop it on the track and race without having to worry if there is an air bubble in a shock or if I have the right front springs and ride height, toe in, etc bla bla bla.
Also, two potentially dumb questions. They have a diff yes? no? I recall from the 1/10 2wd days that keeping a diff happy was a full time job (at least for this novice)
Lastly, they are single speed but is there is one-way bearing? Do they freewheel when you are off the gas like a 2 speed or do they engine-brake like a RTR single speed.
02-23-2012, 05:52 AM
#1233
02-23-2012, 09:56 AM
#1234
....dont think anyone will try to sneak in a locked-suspension car......
....our real problem is we cant get all the cool new European pan cars without getting a second mortgage on our homes......
....the 3 port motor rule/single speed will keep the speeds in check.........this will be the most fun/bang for your buck class this year...we just need to sabotage II's car..Ned..you turn his HSN needle out 3 extra turns and i'll superglue his tires to his set-up board....that'll slow him down.............
....our real problem is we cant get all the cool new European pan cars without getting a second mortgage on our homes..........the 3 port motor rule/single speed will keep the speeds in check.........this will be the most fun/bang for your buck class this year...we just need to sabotage II's car..Ned..you turn his HSN needle out 3 extra turns and i'll superglue his tires to his set-up board....that'll slow him down.............
02-23-2012, 09:59 AM
#1235
02-23-2012, 10:49 AM
#1237
02-23-2012, 11:51 AM
#1238
No, I'm from Italy. Sadly I haven't any picture of my car naked, cause I sold it. The only one I have is with the body on. I'm just waiting for the new Intrepid, coming out in these weeks.
The peculiarity of the Intrepid is chassis flex. It's made from some fiberglass, with wide cuts; you can really take the car's front-end in one hand and rear-end in the other and twist it soooooo hard... the cars will just spring back to the original shape. It's something difficult to explain in words, gotta feel it. Really remarkable.
You can see something about the previous car here. The new one will be different though. Two- pieces bulkheads for quicker diff change, narrower chassis and a different weight distribution shifted to the rear.
http://www.mantuamodel.com/index.php...pid&Itemid=106
The peculiarity of the Intrepid is chassis flex. It's made from some fiberglass, with wide cuts; you can really take the car's front-end in one hand and rear-end in the other and twist it soooooo hard... the cars will just spring back to the original shape. It's something difficult to explain in words, gotta feel it. Really remarkable.
You can see something about the previous car here. The new one will be different though. Two- pieces bulkheads for quicker diff change, narrower chassis and a different weight distribution shifted to the rear.
http://www.mantuamodel.com/index.php...pid&Itemid=106
Last edited by Flygio; 02-23-2012 at 12:15 PM.
02-23-2012, 12:12 PM
#1239
02-23-2012, 12:22 PM
#1240
02-23-2012, 12:24 PM
#1241
No, I'm from Italy. Sadly I haven't any picture of my car naked, cause I sold it. The only one I have is with the body on. I'm just waiting for the new Intrepid, coming out in these weeks.
The peculiarity of the Intrepid is chassis flex. It's made from some fiberglass, with wide cuts; you can really take the car's front-end in one hand and rear-end in the other and twist it soooooo hard... the cars will just spring back to the original shape. It's something difficult to explain in words, gotta feel it. Really remarkable.
You can see something about the previous car here. The new one will be different though. Two- pieces bulkheads for quicker diff change, narrower chassis and a different weight distribution shifted to the rear.
http://www.mantuamodel.com/index.php...pid&Itemid=106
The peculiarity of the Intrepid is chassis flex. It's made from some fiberglass, with wide cuts; you can really take the car's front-end in one hand and rear-end in the other and twist it soooooo hard... the cars will just spring back to the original shape. It's something difficult to explain in words, gotta feel it. Really remarkable.
You can see something about the previous car here. The new one will be different though. Two- pieces bulkheads for quicker diff change, narrower chassis and a different weight distribution shifted to the rear.
http://www.mantuamodel.com/index.php...pid&Itemid=106
02-23-2012, 12:34 PM
#1242
No, I'm from Italy. Sadly I haven't any picture of my car naked, cause I sold it. The only one I have is with the body on. I'm just waiting for the new Intrepid, coming out in these weeks.
The peculiarity of the Intrepid is chassis flex. It's made from some fiberglass, with wide cuts; you can really take the car's front-end in one hand and rear-end in the other and twist it soooooo hard... the cars will just spring back to the original shape. It's something difficult to explain in words, gotta feel it. Really remarkable.
You can see something about the previous car here. The new one will be different though. Two- pieces bulkheads for quicker diff change, narrower chassis and a different weight distribution shifted to the rear.
http://www.mantuamodel.com/index.php...pid&Itemid=106
The peculiarity of the Intrepid is chassis flex. It's made from some fiberglass, with wide cuts; you can really take the car's front-end in one hand and rear-end in the other and twist it soooooo hard... the cars will just spring back to the original shape. It's something difficult to explain in words, gotta feel it. Really remarkable.
You can see something about the previous car here. The new one will be different though. Two- pieces bulkheads for quicker diff change, narrower chassis and a different weight distribution shifted to the rear.
http://www.mantuamodel.com/index.php...pid&Itemid=106
What is the difference between the three upper rear a-arm plates shown in the instructions? Different flex?
02-23-2012, 12:35 PM
#1243
02-23-2012, 12:36 PM
#1244
) somewhere around 450€... Check out the 2012 car here http://www.rcbazar.net/modules.php?n...ticle&sid=1287
ciao
02-23-2012, 12:37 PM
#1245