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Old 11-25-2003, 12:33 AM   #1261
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Oh Arun the wise one, can you share where did you get this info from?
Pieter article on mytsn about the development proces of the 710... it mentioned about the consideration of shaft and belt drive

http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=9312
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If you wanted full brakes, get the front solid axle or a front gear diff instead of using the front one way. It will make driving more forgiving.

What gearing are you using? Stock from the box? The stock gearing is too tall for small tracks. It is only ideal if you run like those long flowing European tracks.

Change the internal pulleys to a higher internal ratio one. 23T brake pulley to 22T. 46T rear diff pulley to 47T. 18T rear side pulley to 17T. Also use 50T 1st gear spur (stock is 49T) and 15T 1st gear pinion (stock is 16T). For second gear, use 46T spur (stock is 45T) and 18T 2nd gear pinion (stock is 19T). That would give you about the same 1nd gear final drive ratio as the stock 2nd gear MTX-3 / V1RR EVO gearing.
Thanks D! I think I'll hold off to the gear for the moment and wait for the 710 to see if the gears are compatible... Maybe I'll have the 705 for long track and 710 for tight technical track... Oh did I say 710? Maybe the MTX4 hahhahaha
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Old 11-25-2003, 01:52 AM   #1263
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Oh Arun the wise one, can you share where did you get this info from?
So he doesn't know everything!

Needless to say, a serpent shaft car would be very interesting, not to "diss" the belt setup at all.
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Change the internal pulleys to a higher internal ratio one. 23T brake pulley to 22T. 46T rear diff pulley to 47T. 18T rear side pulley to 17T. Also use 50T 1st gear spur (stock is 49T) and 15T 1st gear pinion (stock is 16T). For second gear, use 46T spur (stock is 45T) and 18T 2nd gear pinion (stock is 19T). That would give you about the same 1nd gear final drive ratio as the stock 2nd gear MTX-3 / V1RR EVO gearing.
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Old 11-25-2003, 02:21 AM   #1266
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Pieter article on mytsn about the development proces of the 710... it mentioned about the consideration of shaft and belt drive

http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=9312
Thanks for the link ! I'm just a little behind !!
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Forgive me O wise one... I was without internet connection for a few days !!
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Thanks D! I think I'll hold off to the gear for the moment and wait for the 710 to see if the gears are compatible... Maybe I'll have the 705 for long track and 710 for tight technical track... Oh did I say 710? Maybe the MTX4 hahhahaha
Just to let you know that the highest 710 final drive ratio on the 1st gear is 7.15. This is about the same as the 705 with 22/47/17 and 15/50 gear combo (7.12).
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Just to let you know that the highest 710 final drive ratio on the 1st gear is 7.15. This is about the same as the 705 with 22/47/17 and 15/50 gear combo (7.12).
Ahh so you're saying that the 710 final drive ratio will be very similar to MTX/VoneRR Evo?
Or can I say that the stock 710 will be more suitable for small technical track than 705?
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Ahh so you're saying that the 710 final drive ratio will be very similar to MTX/VoneRR Evo?
Or can I say that the stock 710 will be more suitable for small technical track than 705?
The 710 has about the same drive ratios as the 705. It's just that the 710 has less inertia on the rotating parts according to Serpent which could compensate for better acceleration on the 710 than the 710.

I cannot comment on the 710 but for the 705, I do not have any problems on reasonably small technical tracks.
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Serpent started publishing their I-manual. You can find front end manual at http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=9325&sn=7
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We have created the i-Manual as a new source of information about your Serpent 710. The 710 i-Manual will be up to date and will show all the latest modifications of the instruction manual. We will also add tips and notes in the respective assembly steps based on the feedback we are receiving from our customers. Of course we are encouraging our distributors to do the translation work to make all this information available in your own language as much as possible.

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If they keep up on this,its a beautiful thing......
Nice!! definitely improvement!
How does front belt tension adjustment affects the car's handling??
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Old 11-25-2003, 08:10 AM   #1274
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Default S710 i-manual

i've been keeping tabs on the manual but unfortunately it's not complete yet as of now, can have a quick peek at it, follow this link http://www.mytsn.com/products/imanual.asp?prid=3293

for 1 thing, the manual really improve, more clear. shdnt be a problem for a 1st-time serpent car builder
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Default 710 underweight-how to add weights?

Here is a q for the serpent design team. With the car being underweight, are there any provisions made on the chassis where you can ad lead to the car in a good way? The Xray has this beautiful weight system that you can add on... Anything like that in the plans or do you just have to bolt it in whereever you find space?
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