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Old 11-15-2003, 01:39 AM   #511
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Ummm, looking at it again, the front side and rear side can be pulleys of different teeth (both must be the same) and the results will yield the same.

So instead of 24T, they could both be 23T or even 25T and will still yield 1.875 front internal ratio. If other than these pulleys, I think Serpent has to make new ones as 23T, 24T and 25T pulleys are readily available from other cars.
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:31 AM   #512
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Those dastedly mugen guys, no doubt
Oooooi ... don't blame Mugen guys for everything! No one saw us hacking into the server!!!

Saw the 710 online, I am very disappointed!!! How I wish they had better pictures!!! The car looks great I have to say with a lot of interesting bits. Now only to see the car in the flesh and tinkle with all the little new bits.

Oh by the way InitialD was at the track with me this morning at 11:00 am and he seemed a little blur ... we all can understand why, those darn mushrooms!!!

Everyone in our LHS is waiting to to see if InitialD will be the first to jump on the 710. I am sure he will ... this will complete the Trilogy (Impulse, 705 and 710).
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:41 AM   #513
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Saw the 710 online, I am very disappointed!!! How I wish they had better pictures!!!
Dissapointed? How better can the pics be? Can you find better pics of the MTX-3? Perhaps Serpent should borrow Mark's D1.

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Oh by the way InitialD was at the track with me this morning at 11:00 am and he seemed a little blur ... we all can understand why, those darn mushrooms!!!


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Everyone in our LHS is waiting to to see if InitialD will be the first to jump on the 710. I am sure he will ... this will complete the Trilogy (Impulse, 705 and 710).
Trilogy? Where have I heard of that one...
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:42 AM   #514
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Proficar 403, here are some answers to your questions:
1.Yes, the rear has an adjustable roll center and adjustable camber change as well!
Hi Michael

As I'm still only a Tech Rookie
could you explain the benefits of adjustable roll centers

Great job on the car by the way
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:47 AM   #515
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Dissapointed? How better can the pics be? Can you find better pics of the MTX-3? Perhaps Serpent should borrow Mark's D1.







Trilogy? Where have I heard of that one...
Disappoiunted meaning I would have love to see MORE of the car, hahaha ...
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:50 AM   #516
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Well, I think we'll have to wait for them to recover from their hang over.

From the pics at mytsn, I can surely tell that the brake pulley is 24T. So going by the information that the internal drive ratio of the car is 1.875, the rear diff pulley is 45T.

Other pulleys remain a mystery to me but looking at the size of the rear side pulley as well as the front side pulley, I guess that they are the same as the brake pulley. So I think the pulleys are configured like this
30T

24T 16T

24T 24T

45T

Incidently, this gives the front and rear internal drive ratio as 1.875 which makes the overdrive 1:1.

p/s: Ooophs, Rene just woke up !


Not bad, but the real pulley configuration is :

_______________Front 35T

Middle side: 22T Middel :19T


2 speed side : 22t 2 speed mid 24t

_______________________Rear 45T

So it's not exactly 1:1, but it's close.

More info soon.
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Disappoiunted meaning I would have love to see MORE of the car, hahaha ...
You're telling me with 26 pics and you still cannot get more of the car? Man you're hooked !! Patience is a virtue. Soon you'll see one in a flesh.
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:57 AM   #518
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could you explain the benefits of adjustable roll centers
Having the adjustable roll center feature on the front and rear of the car enables one to adjust the roll centers of the car accordingly !

Lower roll center (further away from the CG) permits the car to roll more. This means more grip on that end where the roll center is low. But more grip can mean more sluggish.

Higher roll center (nearer towards the CG) will resist the part of the car from rolling. This can mean lesser grip but can also mean the car can react faster in and out of corners.
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Old 11-15-2003, 03:01 AM   #519
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Having the adjustable roll center feature on the front and rear of the car enables one to adjust the roll centers of the car accordingly !

Lower roll center (further away from the CG) permits the car to roll more. This means more grip on that end where the roll center is low. But more grip can mean more sluggish.

Higher roll center (nearer towards the CG) will resist the part of the car from rolling. This can mean lesser grip but can also mean the car can react faster in and out of corners.


Now i know why you are a tech elite and i'm only a rookie
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Not bad, but the real pulley configuration is :

_______________Front 35T

Middle side: 22T Middel :19T


2 speed side : 22t 2 speed mid 24t

_______________________Rear 45T

So it's not exactly 1:1, but it's close.

More info soon.
Ummm, slight front overdrive... Woow, totally new pulleys. Wouldn't the production have benefitted if the 16T front middle pulley was retained and the 24T front and rear side pulley used again? These pulleys are all common ones.
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[B] Dissapointed? How better can the pics be? Can you find better pics of the MTX-3? Perhaps Serpent should borrow Mark's D1.
I'd agree with that - I come with the D1, though
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Now i know why you are a tech elite and i'm only a rookie
Offer me a job I cannot refuse !

Hell if that's difficult, I'll make it easy. Just send a 710 my way and that should take care for the year's salary.
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Now i know why you are a tech elite and i'm only a rookie
Thake a bottle of wine from Michael, and you won't be a rookie for long.

Why don't i see you at Peters know more? Are now only driving at MACH?The car is released now, so you can come back.
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Old 11-15-2003, 03:09 AM   #524
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I'd agree with that - I come with the D1, though
Yeah, I can be the camera man's slave too for a year's salary in a form of a 710 !!

Ummm, nice avatar you got there... One of your old pics?
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I guess, i put too much time to watch de "dutch guy party" , instead of watching TSN.
Guesso cause i posted it on the moment serpent released the data and everybody was to dronk to see it.
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