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Old 05-23-2004, 03:40 AM   #11041
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Both me and Initial D are having big time rear wheels bouncing due to this...our outdrives have a deep dimple/scoop that binds the dogbones and limits its lateral movement... I've changed the right side 2 weeks ago and now it's the left that's giving me problems... Wished they made spring steel ones.
hey i wonder if this is my problem were iam finding that the right wheel seems to lift higher than the left causing the rear to come loose and spin when only turning one way If this is the case could you please explain what is happening e.g. "our outdrives have a deep dimple/scoop that binds the dogbones and limits its lateral movement"
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hahahaa... well good for you.

I'm still waiting for the Helios to arrive here in our country. I don't have any servos yet... but I am getting a KO Digis 2344/2344
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Old 05-23-2004, 05:24 AM   #11043
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Guys, look at the latest video at 3Hobby.Com, see what a stock, out of the box, 710 can do.

The only thing Mark changed were the red rear springs on his shocks. OK, if you want to be fussy, he also used the 705 Lola front bumper but that's it!

I'll take a closer look at his car later today but did not see any Kawahala stuff, titaniums or mongrel mods.
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Got my 3P back together, but it was virtually impossible to start. It would run with the glow plug starter, but as soon as I took it away, then engine died. I thought it was as I had richened the LSN so much, but I kept leaning it and eventually I couldn't lean anymore - at this point I was totally confused. I took the glow plug out and checked to see if the engine was flooded - nope! Then I put the glow plug on the starter and the filiment didn't glow DOH!!!!!!!!! I forgot to order spare glow plugs when I bought my engine I'll have to wait for my ordered ones to turn up now

Upto what temperature are the 6TF plugs ok? I see in virtually every setup for the 710 6TFs being used - are they pretty much universal?
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Old 05-23-2004, 05:51 AM   #11045
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3PK would be second.
Of course ! After spending a bit for it, you want to junk it for another radio?

But I must admit, if I had extra dough <cough, cough>, I would also get it. It looks like a high tech space gun !
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hey i wonder if this is my problem were iam finding that the right wheel seems to lift higher than the left causing the rear to come loose and spin when only turning one way
Don't mistake tweak for the problem with the rear outdrives. Your car is pretty new I believe and I doubt that you're having the same problem as Crash and myself. You could physically see the dimples in the outdrives.

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If this is the case could you please explain what is happening e.g. "our outdrives have a deep dimple/scoop that binds the dogbones and limits its lateral movement"
When the dogbone binds the rear suspension, it doesn't allow the tires and shocks to perform as it should. It's just like running without rear springs !
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I see in virtually every setup for the 710 6TFs being used - are they pretty much universal?
Yup they are. See Dennis Ritchey's site for more guide.
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I'll take a closer look at his car later today but did not see any Kawahala stuff, titaniums or mongrel mods.
Hey, that's sensitive issue here !
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Old 05-23-2004, 06:09 AM   #11049
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Yup they are. See Dennis Ritchey's site for more guide.
Thanks for that, D. Dennis isn't mentioning much about nitro under 20% and temps above 68 Deg F - what is the deal there?
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Guys, look at the latest video at 3Hobby.Com, see what a stock, out of the box, 710 can do.

The only thing Mark changed were the red rear springs on his shocks. OK, if you want to be fussy, he also used the 705 Lola front bumper but that's it!

I'll take a closer look at his car later today but did not see any Kawahala stuff, titaniums or mongrel mods.
Cool video!! When I do mine, I want make a one lap video which is comprised of several different shots on the track, i.e. do one run and video from one angle - do the next run at another angle, etc. should look pretty good

Your track looks nice think my track is more straight forward - one long fast corner; one very fast flick; one slow hairpin where you can roll through without needing to brake; one hairpin on max brakes! and one hairpin where a dab on the brakes is enough.

Cheers, Mark.
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I heard from the guy at the hobby shop that you can use vaseline for your one way lube. He said that it heats up and thins out. What do you guys think?
Spend the $6 for the one way oil... those bearing are very delicate and EXPENSIVE to replace.

good luck.
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:07 AM   #11052
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Cool video!! When I do mine, I want make a one lap video which is comprised of several different shots on the track, i.e. do one run and video from one angle - do the next run at another angle, etc. should look pretty good
Yes, I think it'll look pretty cool. Do one quick!

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Your track looks nice think my track is more straight forward - one long fast corner; one very fast flick; one slow hairpin where you can roll through without needing to brake; one hairpin on max brakes! and one hairpin where a dab on the brakes is enough.

Cheers, Mark.
I thought it looked simple enough when I went there the first time but son reliased that to get a fast lap time is not so easy.

The snaky chicane just after the start line is so important to prepare for your entry to the straight. You need to be fast through it but a slight mistake means you'll clip the sides and your car drives along on two wheels for a long way before a marshall can help. If you're going to flip, just damn well flip!

The end of the straight is obviouly the fast sweeper. They've added camber to it recently which means you could go quite fast but there is actually only a small tight line margin, go out of it and you sail off the other side.

Then the very slow sweeper immediately after the hairpin. You need to set your car for this one or you'll be a lot slower than most people because the grip is low around it. However if you bullhead through with your set-up for maximum grip you'll definitely be slow on the next 2 hairpins in front of the rostrum.

Comparing my time to Mark's time? He's a full 2 secs faster per lap but I haven't tried it with a one-way yet
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Yes, I think it'll look pretty cool. Do one quick!

Quick it won't be I have to go early one morning during the week - not sure when I'll get yet.


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I thought it looked simple enough when I went there the first time but son reliased that to get a fast lap time is not so easy.
Sounds an interesting circuit Let us know what its like with the oneway


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How much ahead is he of the next fastest guy?

I've been busy comparing my times to the top southern german guys who raced here a couple of weeks ago. From the times of my mate with the 710, the track was a little bit quicker on that day. My times are still a little bit inconsistent, but when I run fast and consistent with the 705 and RE motor, I'm about a second slower per lap than the top southern german guy (Christoph Pietsch). I'm pretty happy with this for a start, as I know I get a few tenths of a seond free-of-charge when I get the 710 and the 3P or JP motor runnning.
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well I am about to order the helios but I have a question does that extencion is really a must?
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Quick it won't be I have to go early one morning during the week - not sure when I'll get yet.[/B]
Take your time ... as long as you make it, no worries.



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[i]Sounds an interesting circuit Let us know what its like with the oneway [/B]
Now that I'm rebuilding the car I'll definitely have the one-way in there.

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[i]How much ahead is he of the next fastest guy?[/B]
Well, you remember way back when I mentioned somewhere that there's this lady who zoomed past me during one of my practise there? She qualified second today, just behind Mark. I'm not that embarassed any more!

I didn't see the exact times but when I congratulated Mark for his TQ/FTD, he said "thanks, only just!". So they must be close.

I need to review the tape to see the qualifying times but the 710 swiped all top 3 positions in the 30 mins final ... Mark Green won.

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[i]I've been busy comparing my times to the top southern german guys who raced here a couple of weeks ago. From the times of my mate with the 710, the track was a little bit quicker on that day. My times are still a little bit inconsistent, but when I run fast and consistent with the 705 and RE motor, I'm about a second slower per lap than the top southern german guy (Christoph Pietsch). I'm pretty happy with this for a start, as I know I get a few tenths of a seond free-of-charge when I get the 710 and the 3P or JP motor runnning. [/B]
Not bad at all and with the 710 and JP 5P, you'll gain 1 sec easily. Promise!
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