Serpent 710
02-12-2004 | 11:38 PM
#4321
Tech Elite
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,069
From: Nuremberg, Germany
Originally posted by InitialD
[B]Ummm, if I'm not wrong, didn't the "excellent" after sales service about the tire truer meant anything at all?
[B]Ummm, if I'm not wrong, didn't the "excellent" after sales service about the tire truer meant anything at all?
I've ordered my 710 through them, too - never know I may end up with 2!!! 
02-12-2004 | 11:45 PM
#4322
Tech Prophet
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,679
From: MORDOR
Originally posted by markp27
The excellent pre/post sales service I got from www.pro8.de - top guys, I tell you I've ordered my 710 through them, too - never know I may end up with 2!!!
The excellent pre/post sales service I got from www.pro8.de - top guys, I tell you
I've ordered my 710 through them, too - never know I may end up with 2!!!
Anyway, here's wishing you "twin" happiness with the 710 ! Or come in a bigger package instead in the form the 950R...
02-12-2004 | 11:47 PM
#4323
Tech Master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,013
From: Taipei
Originally posted by InitialD
You measure droop with a droop gauge. 
Droop and ride height are two different things. You could also use a caliper if you want but you need to understand how droop is measured in the first place.
This is what the Serpent 710 setup book has got to say about droop or what they also call downstops...
Downstops limit how far the suspension arms travel downward, which determines how far upwards the chassis rises. This affects the car’s handling, as it directly impacts the weight transfer of the chassis. The effect may change with the type of track and/or amount of grip available.
In general, more suspension travel (lower downstop value) makes the car more responsive but less stable; it is also typically better on a bumpy track or on a track with slow corners. Less suspension travel (higher downstop value) makes the car more stable; it is typically better on a smooth track.
Reduced downstops (higher downstop value)
?decreases upward chassis travel
?car more stable under braking
?better on smooth tracks
Increased downstops (lower downstop value)
?increases upward chassis travel
?car more responsive but less stable
?better on bumpy tracks
IMPORTANT! Adjust the downstops so the left and right sides are equal.
You measure droop with a droop gauge.
Droop and ride height are two different things. You could also use a caliper if you want but you need to understand how droop is measured in the first place.This is what the Serpent 710 setup book has got to say about droop or what they also call downstops...
Downstops limit how far the suspension arms travel downward, which determines how far upwards the chassis rises. This affects the car’s handling, as it directly impacts the weight transfer of the chassis. The effect may change with the type of track and/or amount of grip available.
In general, more suspension travel (lower downstop value) makes the car more responsive but less stable; it is also typically better on a bumpy track or on a track with slow corners. Less suspension travel (higher downstop value) makes the car more stable; it is typically better on a smooth track.
Reduced downstops (higher downstop value)
?decreases upward chassis travel
?car more stable under braking
?better on smooth tracks
Increased downstops (lower downstop value)
?increases upward chassis travel
?car more responsive but less stable
?better on bumpy tracks
IMPORTANT! Adjust the downstops so the left and right sides are equal.
02-12-2004 | 11:51 PM
#4324
Tech Elite
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,069
From: Nuremberg, Germany
Originally posted by InitialD
Ummm, ok. I thought I remembered it being the border.
Anyway, here's wishing you "twin" happiness with the 710 ! Or come in a bigger package instead in the form the 950R...
Ummm, ok. I thought I remembered it being the border.
Anyway, here's wishing you "twin" happiness with the 710 ! Or come in a bigger package instead in the form the 950R...
Have you noticed that there a quite a few Mazda bodyshells being used in the winternats? I think Ralph is using one.
02-13-2004 | 12:09 AM
#4325
Tech Prophet
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,679
From: MORDOR
Originally posted by markp27
Have you noticed that there a quite a few Mazda bodyshells being used in the winternats? I think Ralph is using one.
Have you noticed that there a quite a few Mazda bodyshells being used in the winternats? I think Ralph is using one.
Hopefully, I can get to try the Mazda 6 body this weekend.
Michael Salven
Ralph Burch
02-13-2004 | 10:11 AM
#4335
Tech Elite
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,069
From: Nuremberg, Germany
Originally posted by InitialD
Hopefully, I can get to try the Mazda 6 body this weekend.
Hopefully, I can get to try the Mazda 6 body this weekend.
Cheers, Mark.