Serpent 710
12-21-2003, 07:58 AM
#1936
Originally posted by GoldFinger
I use the kyosho ball end, the one that came for MP 7.5 with stock turnbuckle.
But I will replace it with serpent shock lower ball end.
Just lign the ackerman arm to pointing 0 deg. and your EPA diff will not more than 5 point. If you force to lign the horn 90 deg. , you will ended up with 32 point EPA difference and right turning is still can not be maximal .Like I said in my first post regarding this issue.
And you still need to put 1mm spacer in horn linkage, 2mm will touching the belt.
I use the kyosho ball end, the one that came for MP 7.5 with stock turnbuckle.
But I will replace it with serpent shock lower ball end.
Just lign the ackerman arm to pointing 0 deg. and your EPA diff will not more than 5 point. If you force to lign the horn 90 deg. , you will ended up with 32 point EPA difference and right turning is still can not be maximal .Like I said in my first post regarding this issue.
And you still need to put 1mm spacer in horn linkage, 2mm will touching the belt.
12-21-2003, 12:52 PM
#1937
Originally posted by InitialD
Let me get this straight... To get the steering the same left and right, you need to shorten the linkage to 40 mm and then the servo horn at 90 degree to the linkage and not 90 degree to the servo casing?
BTW, what linkage and ball cups did you use? It seems it is quite impossible to get to 40 mm even though you trim the ball cups...
Let me get this straight... To get the steering the same left and right, you need to shorten the linkage to 40 mm and then the servo horn at 90 degree to the linkage and not 90 degree to the servo casing?
BTW, what linkage and ball cups did you use? It seems it is quite impossible to get to 40 mm even though you trim the ball cups...
12-21-2003, 12:54 PM
#1938
I had to cut the sides so i didn't need to use a 2mm spacer.
12-21-2003, 01:16 PM
#1939
Originally posted by Pyramid
S9550 is also flater/shorter by about 1mm from the metal gear (where you put your servo horn) to its mounting ears. Thats why with 2mm spacer in between the horn and plastic ball cup will not touch the belt when turning. I personally think this is the best fit servo for S710.
S9550 is also flater/shorter by about 1mm from the metal gear (where you put your servo horn) to its mounting ears. Thats why with 2mm spacer in between the horn and plastic ball cup will not touch the belt when turning. I personally think this is the best fit servo for S710.
Does this 2mm spacer come in the kit? If not were would i get one from?
SN
12-21-2003, 01:50 PM
#1940
Originally posted by S710_Nut
Pyramid:
Does this 2mm spacer come in the kit? If not were would i get one from?
SN
Pyramid:
Does this 2mm spacer come in the kit? If not were would i get one from?
SN
12-21-2003, 07:16 PM
#1941
Originally posted by Julius
In theory having a 90 degree angle between link and arm gives equal travel. If you cut the ball cups, you'll need to shorten the thread on the link as well. Otherwise you won't be able to make the link shorter.
In theory having a 90 degree angle between link and arm gives equal travel. If you cut the ball cups, you'll need to shorten the thread on the link as well. Otherwise you won't be able to make the link shorter.
12-21-2003, 07:28 PM
#1942
Both my brother and I could not get the steering servo horn to be completely 90 degree with everything centred... He uses a sanwa VR and i use a VB (the cases are the same right?). We haven't done anything to remedy it and the car sorta steers ok (on the work bench anyway.. the rain never stops!!)
Will this affect travel extensively?
InitialD - i thought we weren't supposed to open these nice new snake bearings?? can't remember where i read it, but isn't there a special oil inside now? Or is that x-ray bearings.. oh dear.. all confused now.
Will this affect travel extensively?
InitialD - i thought we weren't supposed to open these nice new snake bearings?? can't remember where i read it, but isn't there a special oil inside now? Or is that x-ray bearings.. oh dear.. all confused now.
12-21-2003, 07:31 PM
#1943
Originally posted by Julius
- Try the DRS link in the upper position =helps steer the rear a little more. (you may need the longer upper link position to keep balance out of the turns)
- Try the DRS link in the upper position =helps steer the rear a little more. (you may need the longer upper link position to keep balance out of the turns)
12-21-2003, 07:52 PM
#1944
Originally posted by pineapplet
We haven't done anything to remedy it and the car sorta steers ok (on the work bench anyway.. the rain never stops!!)
We haven't done anything to remedy it and the car sorta steers ok (on the work bench anyway.. the rain never stops!!)
But certain issues kept me at bay and I'm now sick !! 
Originally posted by pineapplet
InitialD - i thought we weren't supposed to open these nice new snake bearings?? can't remember where i read it, but isn't there a special oil inside now? Or is that x-ray bearings.. oh dear.. all confused now.
InitialD - i thought we weren't supposed to open these nice new snake bearings?? can't remember where i read it, but isn't there a special oil inside now? Or is that x-ray bearings.. oh dear.. all confused now.
Some kind of oil they have in the bearings...
I took the rubber seals out and they were packed with grease ! Cleaned it all out and they rolled much better.
12-21-2003, 08:09 PM
#1945
Originally posted by InitialD
Weather was perfect up here. But certain issues kept me at bay and I'm now sick !!
Stick to driving GP and you'll not be confused !!!
Some kind of oil they have in the bearings... I took the rubber seals out and they were packed with grease ! Cleaned it all out and they rolled much better.
Weather was perfect up here.
But certain issues kept me at bay and I'm now sick !! Stick to driving GP and you'll not be confused !!!
Some kind of oil they have in the bearings...
I took the rubber seals out and they were packed with grease ! Cleaned it all out and they rolled much better.
Found where i read about the bearings before.. from the x-ray site under the EVO 2 features! >>>
"- new XRAY high-speed ball-bearings with special polyamide blue covers, degreased and lightly oiled with AeroShell Fluid 12 oil for maximum smoothness, long life, highest tolerance and maximum performance"
Grease huh?
Oh well its not going to romp through dirt like a buggy so i guess i'll leave it greased...
12-21-2003, 08:20 PM
#1946
Originally posted by pineapplet
Whereabouts are you located??? I think i seen you in the M'sian thread... I'm down south.. your irritating neighabour.
Whereabouts are you located??? I think i seen you in the M'sian thread... I'm down south.. your irritating neighabour.
Originally posted by pineapplet
Found where i read about the bearings before.. from the x-ray site under the EVO 2 features! >>>
Found where i read about the bearings before.. from the x-ray site under the EVO 2 features! >>>
Originally posted by pineapplet
Grease huh? Oh well its not going to romp through dirt like a buggy so i guess i'll leave it greased...
Grease huh?
Oh well its not going to romp through dirt like a buggy so i guess i'll leave it greased...
Are you making preparations to head to Thailand for the coming race?
12-21-2003, 08:37 PM
#1947
Originally posted by InitialD
Yes, I'm your irritating neighbour up north that does not want to give you water and claiming islands that we think it's ours !
Oh yes, because the EVO 2 comes with the PHQ bearings by default if I'm not mistaken.
Are you making preparations to head to Thailand for the coming race?
Yes, I'm your irritating neighbour up north that does not want to give you water and claiming islands that we think it's ours !
Oh yes, because the EVO 2 comes with the PHQ bearings by default if I'm not mistaken.
Are you making preparations to head to Thailand for the coming race?
No Thailand for us though.. the invitations were open but its just logistically (and financially) not viable. There's already such a good lot of drivers going anyway.. nothing i can contribute.
You should see the rush to prep the new cars for the trip though. On the first nite the 710s came in, our friendly LHS guy and his hardcore gang were up till early morning fixing up the first few cars!!!!! Its been nutty down there ever since... half-fixed customers' cars lying around everywhere.. batt packs being soldered and heat shrunk... *whew*
Never seen such a buzz around a new car before. Hopefully it will draw more local drivers into the snake pit around here. The car is only sold by one shop here (which i think you should be familiar with) and it tends to be driven by only a limited gang... The V1s and Mugens are still king of the open race.
12-21-2003, 08:41 PM
#1948
Re: Re: Re: Re: Flexi Shock Mount/Rear Gearbox cover
Originally posted by Julius
The shocks force is in an up and down movement. They create a pull/push on the tower. Take the car and roll it sdeways like in a corner. You won't see a twist in the tower. That could happen if the tower itself would flex. That is why it is made as thick as it is.
The shocks force is in an up and down movement. They create a pull/push on the tower. Take the car and roll it sdeways like in a corner. You won't see a twist in the tower. That could happen if the tower itself would flex. That is why it is made as thick as it is.
12-21-2003, 08:48 PM
#1949
Tech Elite
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Flexi Shock Mount/Rear Gearbox cover
Originally posted by InitialD
I tried to find for the flexes in the gear box when twisting the rear shock tower. I can't see any problems like the rear gear box flexing after building it. Perhaps I'm mounting it too tight !
I tried to find for the flexes in the gear box when twisting the rear shock tower. I can't see any problems like the rear gear box flexing after building it. Perhaps I'm mounting it too tight !
12-21-2003, 09:18 PM
#1950
RUBBER TIRES
GUYS, ANYONE OF YOU TRIED RUNNING THE 710 ON RUBBER TIRES? JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE KIT WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED. WE NORMALLY RACE HERE ON RUBBER TIRES SO THE SETTING WOULD BE REALLY DIFFERENT USING RUBBER AND FOAM TIRES. ANY ADVISE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED THANKS...................