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Chris Peralta 02-01-2011 09:52 PM

These are the shafts my new truck came with, same setup as the old one. Front shaft sits a lot further into the out drive.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...a/IMAG0020.jpg

Officespace 02-02-2011 09:14 AM

Reversing The Servo Saver Arm
 
I checked through this thread and couldn't find anything on this, so I figured I'd go ahead and ask everyone.

Has anyone reversed the linkage from the steering servo to the servo saver arm from the standard stock inside position (above the front center cva), to the outside - meaning reversing the servo arm, steering rod and servo saver arm so they are now on the outside (over the receiver box)?

I've seen a few people run this set-up and they told me it increases the truggy's steering speed and torque.

Before I give it a try, I wanted to see if anyone has tried doing this and if there were any benefits/problems with this setup.

Thanks

bigjayjay1 02-02-2011 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Officespace (Post 8588347)
I checked through this thread and couldn't find anything on this, so I figured I'd go ahead and ask everyone.

Has anyone reversed the linkage from the steering servo to the servo saver arm from the standard stock inside position (above the front center cva), to the outside - meaning reversing the servo arm, steering rod and servo saver arm so they are now on the outside (over the receiver box)?

I've seen a few people run this set-up and they told me it increases the truggy's steering speed and torque.

Before I give it a try, I wanted to see if anyone has tried doing this and if there were any benefits/problems with this setup.

Thanks

Ive never seen why would you mod the current has good steering but everything needs to be setup correct. Also the carriers will stop the spindle and I cant see where you would gain.

THE PHILLY JYNX 02-02-2011 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Officespace (Post 8588347)
I checked through this thread and couldn't find anything on this, so I figured I'd go ahead and ask everyone.

Has anyone reversed the linkage from the steering servo to the servo saver arm from the standard stock inside position (above the front center cva), to the outside - meaning reversing the servo arm, steering rod and servo saver arm so they are now on the outside (over the receiver box)?

I've seen a few people run this set-up and they told me it increases the truggy's steering speed and torque.

Before I give it a try, I wanted to see if anyone has tried doing this and if there were any benefits/problems with this setup.

Thanks

I tried this.I also modded the hubs and carriers and arms for more throw. You need a longer servo horn as well(one more hole compared to standard losi horn) to get the linkage to line up correctly..Here's the long and short of it.Does it work? Yes.Does it equate to faster lap times? No. Not at least for the average driver. Front tires turn so fast and at such an angle you loose grip until the tires bite,then it wants to snap the rear end around. Not easy to drive and makes things very unpredictable..No need to re invent the wheel.If it made the truck better everyone would be doing it,or there would be a steering upgrade ava...Just my experience

pballer2777 02-02-2011 12:36 PM

is it true that new trucks come with longer front and rear drive shafts and the lightened outdrives front rear and center?

deadmancourt 02-02-2011 12:45 PM

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Chris Peralta 02-02-2011 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by pballer2777 (Post 8589278)
is it true that new trucks come with longer front and rear drive shafts and the lightened outdrives front rear and center?

My truck is new but I added the lightened out drives to it on my own.

As for the shafts.... since the front and rear shafts share the same part number I would have to say YES the new truck has longer front and rear outer drive shafts. It's not just the front or the fronts would have their own part number. The part number is for F/R shafts!

deadmancourt 02-02-2011 01:53 PM

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token 02-02-2011 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by deadmancourt (Post 8589343)
NO!...only the longer FRONT shafts...thats it;)

Hum, if so, then why dont the new "FRONT" have a different part number? Doesnt sound right....

Chris Peralta 02-02-2011 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by deadmancourt (Post 8589663)
ok this a direct qoute from adam drake " some of the front spindles, may have been milled in a tad bit too far...so they made a batch of tad bit longer shafts for replacements to the public. But the new trucks actually DO NOT have any new anything except for correctly milled front spindles"....so thats why there is no NEW part #....but if you have the problem, they will send you out the shafts........and as for why they dont just send the correct spindles instead of shafts...i have no clue:weird::lol:....


Well I am sorry but I think you misunderstood him. The spindles have nothing to do with my old truck and new truck having the shaft sit in different places. The pictures I posted are of two different trucks with the exact same set of inclined aluminum splindles.. I removed the inclined spindles from the truck that had the shaft at the edge of the cup and put them on the new truck which you can see has the bones sitting much farther into the out drive.

deadmancourt 02-02-2011 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by token (Post 8589723)
Hum, if so, then why dont the new "FRONT" have a different part number? Doesnt sound right....

erase that last quote...i wasnt thinking when i posted that....:D...there not making them availiable to purchase cause if there is a problem then its their fault and should be fixed for free:D....and the new spindles are now corecct....hey chris....can you by anychance measure a front and rear shaft on the new car and then the front and rear on the old car...i bet they are all the same length:sneaky:

deadmancourt 02-02-2011 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Peralta (Post 8589754)
Well I am sorry but I think you misunderstood him. The spindles have nothing to do with my old truck and new truck having the shaft sit in different places. The pictures I posted are of two different trucks with the exact same set of inclined aluminum splindles.. I removed the inclined spindles from the truck that had the shaft at the edge of the cup and put them on the new truck which you can see has the bones sitting much farther into the out drive.

just stating exactly what i was told!....:D...that would trip me out though for sure....can you measure them on the old car and see if the front and rear are the same.....i talk to adam at every race out here in cali so i could let him know this info....hell i can even tell him on FB:lol:Fb:lol: every one has 1:D

Chris Peralta 02-02-2011 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by deadmancourt (Post 8589774)
just stating exactly what i was told!....:D...

I believe you, but like I said I do not use their so called incorrectly milled spindles. I use the inclined spindles, and I used the set from the old truck on the new truck so the only things that are different are either the A-Arms or the shafts. It's very obvious in the pics that it sits further in the out drive. Either the shafts on my new truck are longer or the Arms are shorter because the spindles are ruled out in my case.

deadmancourt 02-02-2011 02:26 PM

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jmackani 02-02-2011 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by recrutr911 (Post 8585942)
Allen Drivers:

.05, 1/16, 5/64 and 3/32 will be all you need.
Losi makes a turnbuckle wrench , it's multi size. Great tool.
Nut Drivers, 1/4 and 5/16 are used the most. Most kits come with 3/16 and 3/8 also.

Ball tips are good for screws that are in tight places and at wierd angles, but you cant torque anything with them. They strip too easily. Stick with standard. Spend the money to get good tools. The cheap ones round easily and then strip your screws.

Hope this helps

I like to use the ball drivers for the top engine mount screws. Normally you can't get a straight shot at them due to the width of the engine heads.


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