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Another TKI thread, more TKI4 Specific http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-of...buggy-kit.html

TKI4 Replacement Parts (Good for upgrading from TKI3) http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1505.html

TKI4 Optional Parts http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Option-Parts_c_1506.html

Some notes on the new Towers/Long shocks here

Picked up a TKI3 and want to upgrade to TKI4 ? Here are all the updated parts:

Shocks

IF347-155 1.5X5 Pistons
IF471-01 Front Shock Body
IF470-01 Rear Shock Body
IF470-03BK Shock Adjust Dial
IFW154 Boots
IF346-05C Shock End Set

Wing

IF491BK Wing
IFW460B Wing Mount/Stay

Rear End

IFH006W Wheel
IF490 HUB
IF490-01 Hub Insert
IF492 Shock Pin
IF423HB Rear Arm
IF287 Hard Upper Rod Rear

Front End

IF489 Steering Rod Set
IF488 Knuckles
IF487H Front Arm
IFW458 Hard Lower Pin
IFW425 93MM CVD
IF286 Hard Upper Rod
IF486 Lower Susp Holder
IFW459 Servo Saver (Hard)
IF446B Ackerman Arm
IF426-64.5 Susp Shaft

Other

IF469B Filter
97035LW-13 Clutch Bell
IF453B Body Mount
IFW107GM Hexes
W300910 Washer
IF443B Center Diff Plate
IF444C Tank
IF479B Radio Box
96772 13x16x0.15mm Shim
IF481B Fuel Tank Stay
IFW336GM Wheelnut
IFB008 TKI4 Body
IFD403W TKI4 Decal

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Old 04-25-2012, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GSM Storm
Hi all

Just want to check that I am putting the right amount of oil in the diffs, so what is the correct level ?

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been told to build mine full, turn the gears when filled to release any trapped air within the diff casing then fill just below level and wait for the air to escape, when you drop the top gear in oil should be flush if not top up, when the crown gear is screwed down it should bleed any excess oil out the screw holes,the reason for this I have been told is to make sure there are no air pockets inside, if you have air it heats up and then expands faster than the oil and can force the oil out faster making the diff become inconsistent, TBH I have only built mine once so cannot say any other way works better or worse but that is the advice I was given.
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Have to say that's a very strange way to set the oil level in a diff. And being so far off the method all manufacturers and a vast majority of pro level racers use, I really have to question it's value. I've certainly never heard of anyone ever bleeding oil from their diff or being so concerned about air pockets. If the air was such a huge problem, or even a little problem, surely the manufacturers or at least some pros would mention it, but haven't ever heard it talked about before, and the pros are going to be the kind of driver who is able to feel when their diff goes off during a race, not slow coaches like you and I, so is there really any need for all that hassle and mess when the "fill to just above cross-pins/small gears" method is SO much faster and easier to do and seems to be working perfectly for everyone from beginners to WC levels drivers?

Just my 2c.
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How full your diffs are is only important for your OWN records. You just need to be consistant with what you use as a full mark so when you make changes you will be able to feel the difference. The amount of fluid will make a differenc in how the diff feels.
I guess the only time knowing what someone else is doing is if you are trying to duplicate their setup My 2 cents.


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I personally do not fill my diff to the top. Also, I am more concerned about a good seal (o-rings/outdrive/gasket) vs. air bubbles although one can argue that air bubbles could be a byproduct of a bad seal or faulty build. With the higher viscosity diff oils, I think it's important to allow enough time for it to settle into the diff case before measuring the oil level. You should turn the outdrive a couple of times (make sure to hold down the top gear down snug against the crown gear with a small hex driver) and let it settle again. Repeat until you feel that the oil is completely settled in, you shouldn't see bubbles at this point. I'll also put a drop or two of oil on the gear side of the diff to ensure that the o-rings form a good seal with the outdrive.

I didn't see anything about sanding the diff case or doing anything special with the gaskets on the K car. I guess these don't require any special attention.

I was looking through the TKI2 manual and noticed that the center diff is larger than the front and rears.

So I guess (5)-(5)-(3) in Cody's setup is more like (5)-(5+)-(3)
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Originally Posted by slow coach
been told to build mine full, turn the gears when filled to release any trapped air within the diff casing then fill just below level and wait for the air to escape, when you drop the top gear in oil should be flush if not top up, when the crown gear is screwed down it should bleed any excess oil out the screw holes,the reason for this I have been told is to make sure there are no air pockets inside, if you have air it heats up and then expands faster than the oil and can force the oil out faster making the diff become inconsistent, TBH I have only built mine once so cannot say any other way works better or worse but that is the advice I was given.

For me personally this is the best way, I have been doing it this way for years as it is more Consistant.
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Originally Posted by aaron125
Have to say that's a very strange way to set the oil level in a diff. And being so far off the method all manufacturers and a vast majority of pro level racers use, I really have to question it's value. I've certainly never heard of anyone ever bleeding oil from their diff or being so concerned about air pockets. If the air was such a huge problem, or even a little problem, surely the manufacturers or at least some pros would mention it, but haven't ever heard it talked about before, and the pros are going to be the kind of driver who is able to feel when their diff goes off during a race, not slow coaches like you and I, so is there really any need for all that hassle and mess when the "fill to just above cross-pins/small gears" method is SO much faster and easier to do and seems to be working perfectly for everyone from beginners to WC levels drivers?

Just my 2c.
agreed Aaron im not saying you should do the same its how I have been told to do mine and I trust the person dishing out the info he has been running Kyosho cars for a LOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGG time, i guess this way you always have consistent filling of the diffs as the level will be the same each time you put the diff together as only the excess escapes leaving the same amount of oil each rebuild
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Originally Posted by slow coach
we have a couple one better than the other but they both need a bit of TLC and some more work with the digger
I think most tracks can argue that.

It's neat to see where people are from and how this hobby/sport/passion/addiction has a global following.
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Any guys running the fioroni pistons in the shocks? If so could you give me starting oil setup with lt blue springs all around? Got a set on the way that I am going to test out. Thanks

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For anyone interested, I just received a few emails from KyoshoAmerica.com letting me know they have the new servo tray and also the new RX and battery boxes.

Just thought I'd let you all know.
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Well they need to hurry up and ship mine to me so I can put my buggy back together
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I was told by my local hobby shop that all of my upgrade items shipped (3.5 HD shafts, towers, radio tray, battery box etc) Hopefully this is accurate and it was not a mistake and it's all on back order .
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Heres a Few pics Of my new ride!! And Happy To Own Kyosho Products, bar none they are the best !!!!
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does anyone have a set of ft and r light blue spring they want to sell
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Where you located? I have a set of front light blue and know a shop you can get the rears from brand-new.
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Originally Posted by oghobavo
Any guys running the fioroni pistons in the shocks? If so could you give me starting oil setup with lt blue springs all around? Got a set on the way that I am going to test out. Thanks

Vince O.
Doesn't it say in the instructions that come with the pistons or at the very least, there should be some kind of info on Fioroni's website?
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