Mugen MBX6
Tech Apprentice
which setup will give me more steering offpower/onpower/overall?
5-5-2 or
5-7-2
thanks in advance
5-5-2 or
5-7-2
thanks in advance
Tech Master
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A bunch of us in the midwest are using 8.0F/8.25R. theses are your two most workable setups. akin to the 10.0F/11.0 or 10.75R with the old springs.
LiFe receiver pack? http://racemugen.com/catalog/product...roducts_id=457
LiPo receiver pack?
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We have a stocking order of the new M2C tapered shock pistons on the way too!
LiPo receiver pack?
http://racemugen.com/catalog/product...roducts_id=835
We have a stocking order of the new M2C tapered shock pistons on the way too!
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7-10-5 will give you more turn in and better steering
10 in the center is just giving you more punch and all wheel drive effect.
I run on mostly slick type tracks so it doesnt work well. for high bite and indoor type tracks with good traction 10 works well. 7-10 is good its up to your driving style there.
3-5 in the back works well also. starting at 3 for your slicker dryed out type tracks up to 5 for better traction tracks. Although some like the stability of 5 on even slick tracks, it also allows you to rotate car faster if you need/want to. I do most my turning off power so im looking for traction more than rotation.
Tech Elite
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will make it not turn in as much and will be really snappy....10-7-5 is easy to drive... i like 7-7-3 mostly and on high bite i like 7-7-2... going to try 7-5-2 to see if i can get more turn in.
Tech Adept
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more entry steering (off power)
Thicker front diff oil:
more stable coming into turns but less turn
better on power steering coming out.
Thinner center diff oil:
increase in off power control
better for slick dry/bumpy tracks
thicker center diff oil:
Increase in on power control
works if you are smooth on throttle
better for highbite and/or smooth tracks
thinner rear diff oil:
more entry steering with increase corner traction
thicker rear diff oil:
less wheel spin but at same time less rear traction
Tech Initiate
15k-15k-10k shocks layed over works very well on most if not all tracks plenty on off power steer easy to drive sounds funny but try it
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Mugens (the buggy) are not good with light diff oil period. anything lower than 7k and you are asking for slower laptimes even if the car "feels" better. Between the mugens small diff gears and large amounts if suspension travel diff outs and roasted tires will happen with anything lighter.
I always say inside 7-10-7 and outside 10-10-7 or 15-15-7 or something similar. you might get away with 5k in the rear if things are smooth. 5k in the center is a disaster as the diff gets cooked and all your left with is front wheel drive after 10 minutes. I personally think even 7k is too light in the center for this aforementioned issue. 5k in the front and turn in will be way too aggressive with subsequent diff outs coming out of the corner. don't really be afraid of the heavier oils, because of the smaller gearsets, 7k in a mugen is like 5k in the other brand cars. if your mugen doesn't turn, lighter diff oil is just compensation for some bigger handling problem elsewhere. Reno Savoya played with 20k alot and it did not slow him down any.
sorry for my rant, I do get annoyed when diffs are looked at as chassis tuning tool when it really is a tire/power distribution one. just want people to have a successful time with their cars. diffs are a little more complicated than put "x"weight and your car handles better in terms of steering or whatnot. people instead really need to look at tire wear and that will tell you what to do diff wise.
I always say inside 7-10-7 and outside 10-10-7 or 15-15-7 or something similar. you might get away with 5k in the rear if things are smooth. 5k in the center is a disaster as the diff gets cooked and all your left with is front wheel drive after 10 minutes. I personally think even 7k is too light in the center for this aforementioned issue. 5k in the front and turn in will be way too aggressive with subsequent diff outs coming out of the corner. don't really be afraid of the heavier oils, because of the smaller gearsets, 7k in a mugen is like 5k in the other brand cars. if your mugen doesn't turn, lighter diff oil is just compensation for some bigger handling problem elsewhere. Reno Savoya played with 20k alot and it did not slow him down any.
sorry for my rant, I do get annoyed when diffs are looked at as chassis tuning tool when it really is a tire/power distribution one. just want people to have a successful time with their cars. diffs are a little more complicated than put "x"weight and your car handles better in terms of steering or whatnot. people instead really need to look at tire wear and that will tell you what to do diff wise.
Mugens (the buggy) are not good with light diff oil period. anything lower than 7k and you are asking for slower laptimes even if the car "feels" better. Between the mugens small diff gears and large amounts if suspension travel diff outs and roasted tires will happen with anything lighter.
I always say inside 7-10-7 and outside 10-10-7 or 15-15-7 or something similar. you might get away with 5k in the rear if things are smooth. 5k in the center is a disaster as the diff gets cooked and all your left with is front wheel drive after 10 minutes. I personally think even 7k is too light in the center for this aforementioned issue. 5k in the front and turn in will be way too aggressive with subsequent diff outs coming out of the corner. don't really be afraid of the heavier oils, because of the smaller gearsets, 7k in a mugen is like 5k in the other brand cars. if your mugen doesn't turn, lighter diff oil is just compensation for some bigger handling problem elsewhere. Reno Savoya played with 20k alot and it did not slow him down any.
sorry for my rant, I do get annoyed when diffs are looked at as chassis tuning tool when it really is a tire/power distribution one. just want people to have a successful time with their cars. diffs are a little more complicated than put "x"weight and your car handles better in terms of steering or whatnot. people instead really need to look at tire wear and that will tell you what to do diff wise.
I always say inside 7-10-7 and outside 10-10-7 or 15-15-7 or something similar. you might get away with 5k in the rear if things are smooth. 5k in the center is a disaster as the diff gets cooked and all your left with is front wheel drive after 10 minutes. I personally think even 7k is too light in the center for this aforementioned issue. 5k in the front and turn in will be way too aggressive with subsequent diff outs coming out of the corner. don't really be afraid of the heavier oils, because of the smaller gearsets, 7k in a mugen is like 5k in the other brand cars. if your mugen doesn't turn, lighter diff oil is just compensation for some bigger handling problem elsewhere. Reno Savoya played with 20k alot and it did not slow him down any.
sorry for my rant, I do get annoyed when diffs are looked at as chassis tuning tool when it really is a tire/power distribution one. just want people to have a successful time with their cars. diffs are a little more complicated than put "x"weight and your car handles better in terms of steering or whatnot. people instead really need to look at tire wear and that will tell you what to do diff wise.
Tech Master
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I have been running Mugens since the Athlete.
I have always liked the thicker diff oils.
I currently run the overdrive rear gears & run 10/15/5.
The 6 seems to have a ton of turning built into it.
I've run it indoors on a packed grooved track & outdoors on a large loose track.
Car feels stable in both track conditions.
I have always liked the thicker diff oils.
I currently run the overdrive rear gears & run 10/15/5.
The 6 seems to have a ton of turning built into it.
I've run it indoors on a packed grooved track & outdoors on a large loose track.
Car feels stable in both track conditions.
I run on an tight indoor track and run 5/10/3 and really like it. I tried it since stock in the ECO is 5/10/2 (but I went up to 3 in back of it as well) and really liked it in both cars.
Tech Elite
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Mugens (the buggy) are not good with light diff oil period. anything lower than 7k and you are asking for slower laptimes even if the car "feels" better. Between the mugens small diff gears and large amounts if suspension travel diff outs and roasted tires will happen with anything lighter.
I always say inside 7-10-7 and outside 10-10-7 or 15-15-7 or something similar. you might get away with 5k in the rear if things are smooth. 5k in the center is a disaster as the diff gets cooked and all your left with is front wheel drive after 10 minutes. I personally think even 7k is too light in the center for this aforementioned issue. 5k in the front and turn in will be way too aggressive with subsequent diff outs coming out of the corner. don't really be afraid of the heavier oils, because of the smaller gearsets, 7k in a mugen is like 5k in the other brand cars. if your mugen doesn't turn, lighter diff oil is just compensation for some bigger handling problem elsewhere. Reno Savoya played with 20k alot and it did not slow him down any.
sorry for my rant, I do get annoyed when diffs are looked at as chassis tuning tool when it really is a tire/power distribution one. just want people to have a successful time with their cars. diffs are a little more complicated than put "x"weight and your car handles better in terms of steering or whatnot. people instead really need to look at tire wear and that will tell you what to do diff wise.
I always say inside 7-10-7 and outside 10-10-7 or 15-15-7 or something similar. you might get away with 5k in the rear if things are smooth. 5k in the center is a disaster as the diff gets cooked and all your left with is front wheel drive after 10 minutes. I personally think even 7k is too light in the center for this aforementioned issue. 5k in the front and turn in will be way too aggressive with subsequent diff outs coming out of the corner. don't really be afraid of the heavier oils, because of the smaller gearsets, 7k in a mugen is like 5k in the other brand cars. if your mugen doesn't turn, lighter diff oil is just compensation for some bigger handling problem elsewhere. Reno Savoya played with 20k alot and it did not slow him down any.
sorry for my rant, I do get annoyed when diffs are looked at as chassis tuning tool when it really is a tire/power distribution one. just want people to have a successful time with their cars. diffs are a little more complicated than put "x"weight and your car handles better in terms of steering or whatnot. people instead really need to look at tire wear and that will tell you what to do diff wise.