Mugen MBX6
#5401
Tech Elite
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One thing to keep in mind, City Blocks work good until the top peg wears down. Once that's down to the second larger peg, it will loose a lot of grip on a dusty hard packed track. The Proline Caliber M3 is another tire to try. Keep in mind, the Caliber can be positioned for forward bite or side bite, depending on how you installed the directional tread. Hole Shots M3 is always good too.
#5403
Tech Master
iTrader: (25)
Well my MBX6 is hooked up it's on rails but the sad part is I can't remember what diff fluids I'm running. Where ever I point the wheels it goes..on power or off power it takes the turns smooth and drifts very controlled. It pulls out of the corners like a caged animal with out loosing rear traction...I love it but I can't remember My fluids....pretty sad!!!
I haven't worked on it for a while so I'm afraid to take it apart or even clean it. lol
Tip: Just one thing I noticed from the mbx6 is if your steering posts or pivot ball suspension is tight and binds... it makes the car very twitchy. I noticed that the left steering post hits the upper steering plate...so if you put a shim between the the bearing inside the post and the upper steering plate it makes the steering very smooth and makes the car controllable around corners.
I found this out when replacing a steering servo and found that my steering was binding?
Hope this helps someone?
I haven't worked on it for a while so I'm afraid to take it apart or even clean it. lol
Tip: Just one thing I noticed from the mbx6 is if your steering posts or pivot ball suspension is tight and binds... it makes the car very twitchy. I noticed that the left steering post hits the upper steering plate...so if you put a shim between the the bearing inside the post and the upper steering plate it makes the steering very smooth and makes the car controllable around corners.
I found this out when replacing a steering servo and found that my steering was binding?
Hope this helps someone?
#5404
Tech Elite
iTrader: (14)
Well my MBX6 is hooked up it's on rails but the sad part is I can't remember what diff fluids I'm running. Where ever I point the wheels it goes..on power or off power it takes the turns smooth and drifts very controlled. It pulls out of the corners like a caged animal with out loosing rear traction...I love it but I can't remember My fluids....pretty sad!!!
I haven't worked on it for a while so I'm afraid to take it apart or even clean it. lol
Tip: Just one thing I noticed from the mbx6 is if your steering posts or pivot ball suspension is tight and binds... it makes the car very twitchy. I noticed that the left steering post hits the upper steering plate...so if you put a shim between the the bearing inside the post and the upper steering plate it makes the steering very smooth and makes the car controllable around corners.
I found this out when replacing a steering servo and found that my steering was binding?
Hope this helps someone?
I haven't worked on it for a while so I'm afraid to take it apart or even clean it. lol
Tip: Just one thing I noticed from the mbx6 is if your steering posts or pivot ball suspension is tight and binds... it makes the car very twitchy. I noticed that the left steering post hits the upper steering plate...so if you put a shim between the the bearing inside the post and the upper steering plate it makes the steering very smooth and makes the car controllable around corners.
I found this out when replacing a steering servo and found that my steering was binding?
Hope this helps someone?
regarding your diff fluids, if they've been in there long enough for you not to remember what viscosity they are, well, they're long delaminated anyway, which means you're probably running sthing close to 1/1/1
For you guys looking for a good, all around base setup, go on the mugenseiki site and download Kenji Osaka Femca setup... that's where I got back to everytime I got "lost" in setups this year, it's very polyvalent.
The MBX6M setup sheet is supposed to be an "easy" setup (as this is an ARTR sale hence shouldn't put the undiscerning rc'er too far off balance ) even though it has a somewhat thick center diff.
And honestly, the V2 box setup works too despite what people say... most of the time when a car feels "ill" it isn't behind a setup mistake, but rather a maintenance/preparation issue.
All in all, get your car prepared properly, with nothing broken/binding/asymetric, pick up the right tires for your track, get the brake adjusted right (bias and strength) and if the car isn't assembled fundamentally wrong you're already 95% there - just go drive the balls off of it! Modern cars have much wider sweetspots than those done 10yrs ago, and are pretty tolerant to "approximative" setups.
Paul
#5405
good tip
Well my MBX6 is hooked up it's on rails but the sad part is I can't remember what diff fluids I'm running. Where ever I point the wheels it goes..on power or off power it takes the turns smooth and drifts very controlled. It pulls out of the corners like a caged animal with out loosing rear traction...I love it but I can't remember My fluids....pretty sad!!!
I haven't worked on it for a while so I'm afraid to take it apart or even clean it. lol
Tip: Just one thing I noticed from the mbx6 is if your steering posts or pivot ball suspension is tight and binds... it makes the car very twitchy. I noticed that the left steering post hits the upper steering plate...so if you put a shim between the the bearing inside the post and the upper steering plate it makes the steering very smooth and makes the car controllable around corners.
I found this out when replacing a steering servo and found that my steering was binding?
Hope this helps someone?
I haven't worked on it for a while so I'm afraid to take it apart or even clean it. lol
Tip: Just one thing I noticed from the mbx6 is if your steering posts or pivot ball suspension is tight and binds... it makes the car very twitchy. I noticed that the left steering post hits the upper steering plate...so if you put a shim between the the bearing inside the post and the upper steering plate it makes the steering very smooth and makes the car controllable around corners.
I found this out when replacing a steering servo and found that my steering was binding?
Hope this helps someone?
can u send some pictures mate?
#5408
Tech Master
iTrader: (25)
Yep, we all agree that any binding in the suspension/steering will ruin any car's handling characteristics
regarding your diff fluids, if they've been in there long enough for you not to remember what viscosity they are, well, they're long delaminated anyway, which means you're probably running sthing close to 1/1/1
For you guys looking for a good, all around base setup, go on the mugenseiki site and download Kenji Osaka Femca setup... that's where I got back to everytime I got "lost" in setups this year, it's very polyvalent.
The MBX6M setup sheet is supposed to be an "easy" setup (as this is an ARTR sale hence shouldn't put the undiscerning rc'er too far off balance ) even though it has a somewhat thick center diff.
And honestly, the V2 box setup works too despite what people say... most of the time when a car feels "ill" it isn't behind a setup mistake, but rather a maintenance/preparation issue.
All in all, get your car prepared properly, with nothing broken/binding/asymetric, pick up the right tires for your track, get the brake adjusted right (bias and strength) and if the car isn't assembled fundamentally wrong you're already 95% there - just go drive the balls off of it! Modern cars have much wider sweetspots than those done 10yrs ago, and are pretty tolerant to "approximative" setups.
Paul
regarding your diff fluids, if they've been in there long enough for you not to remember what viscosity they are, well, they're long delaminated anyway, which means you're probably running sthing close to 1/1/1
For you guys looking for a good, all around base setup, go on the mugenseiki site and download Kenji Osaka Femca setup... that's where I got back to everytime I got "lost" in setups this year, it's very polyvalent.
The MBX6M setup sheet is supposed to be an "easy" setup (as this is an ARTR sale hence shouldn't put the undiscerning rc'er too far off balance ) even though it has a somewhat thick center diff.
And honestly, the V2 box setup works too despite what people say... most of the time when a car feels "ill" it isn't behind a setup mistake, but rather a maintenance/preparation issue.
All in all, get your car prepared properly, with nothing broken/binding/asymetric, pick up the right tires for your track, get the brake adjusted right (bias and strength) and if the car isn't assembled fundamentally wrong you're already 95% there - just go drive the balls off of it! Modern cars have much wider sweetspots than those done 10yrs ago, and are pretty tolerant to "approximative" setups.
Paul
And no, my diff fluids are not 1-1-1 unless diff oil has an expiration date on them. It's only been ran 2 times in 5 months.
#5409
very nice jim as always! what do you charge?
#5411
Tech Elite
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check for binding? easy and to be regularly done. Unhook shocks, rollbars, servo linkages, and see if everything moves "by its own weight", ie hold the car upside down, slowly start rotating (pitch) it till it's vertical, a few degrees after verticality, your suspension components should fall by themselves, smoothly, at the same time. If it isn't the case check for hinge pins and PBS too tight. For the steering, just move it by hand from the servo linkage and check for full throw, both with the car the right way and upside down. Rehook rollbars, put the cars on stands, start lifting left wheel, see how high you can lift it till the right one starts moving, then do it from the other side, both should yield similar results, otherwise check for bind/play.
Hope this helps - Can't help much with the diff fluids tho
Paul
Last edited by Lonestar; 10-08-2009 at 06:49 AM.
#5412
Anyone running a different brake set up on the 6?
I'm about to change my stock pads, they work well but I've had better, they seem to fade a bit during long races 20+ minutes plus they cost 30+ $.
I used to run Racers edge fiber discs on my X5 and never had a hint of fade, unfortunately can't find them anywhere in stock...
Right now i'm looking at getting some carbon brake discs from Extreme racing but i've never tried these I would like to get some feed back what's the wear like?
how do they feel?
how do they handle the occasional fuel bath lol
I'm leanning towards the carbon but Ferodo is still an option as well.
Thanks for you time!
I'm about to change my stock pads, they work well but I've had better, they seem to fade a bit during long races 20+ minutes plus they cost 30+ $.
I used to run Racers edge fiber discs on my X5 and never had a hint of fade, unfortunately can't find them anywhere in stock...
Right now i'm looking at getting some carbon brake discs from Extreme racing but i've never tried these I would like to get some feed back what's the wear like?
how do they feel?
how do they handle the occasional fuel bath lol
I'm leanning towards the carbon but Ferodo is still an option as well.
Thanks for you time!
#5415
Gameholic, try the TTR brake discs, same as on the AE RC8, they're a fiber type disc so you'll need bare pad plates with them. They've been a popular upgrade since the old MBX5, cheap too.