trackdesigner71

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Wonder what LMH it is based on because that looks nice! at 190mm I don't think its fit a WGT chassis but would definitely make for an interesting possibility for F1 (since touring car has too many different options as it is)

old_dude

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The Zoodiac is a 190 body. Most of us are running our cars as narrow as we can. Helps them turn.

typhon92

My first training with the new Roche P10 WGT-R at a french rc-club but température is very low on the asphalt just 14,5*c -> 58,1*F

trackdesigner71

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I've felt pretty much from the jump that Pro10, 12th scale AND TC can coexist in an onroad program. I was having a chat with a couple guys from here and the way I see it, if we can unify and streamline the formula across 10th and 12th scale, that will benefit not just WGT-R, but onroad as a whole. Here is what I came up with:
The way I see it, the breakdown should be:
Touring (2S)
21.5 (also USGT)
17.5
Mod

12th (1S)
21.5 (GT12)
17.5
13.5
Mod

10th/Pro10 (2S)
21.5 (WGT-R)
17.5
Mod (outdoors only if offered)

That unifies the formula and creates an even path for progression within onroad and gives a baseline to create appropriate skill based promotion at the micro (club track) and macro (regional and national) level.

BullFrog

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And you forgot F1. Is there a reason why you see fit to reorganize the classes? You could do what was done years ago- make your own organization.

trackdesigner71

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The point is less about reorganizing the classes and more about creating a simpler formula and reducing confusion. As I said before, 10th/Pro10, 12th and TC can and should be able to coexist in a racing program, and having a cohesive formula between the three can help that. I understand that there are classes outside that formula like F1 and VTA that arent part of what I posted but remember, this a) isnt a silver bullet or a panacea for electric onroad, but it is something that could be a cog in a general short and long term solution for the health of the segment, much better than just creating another sanctioning body and further splintering things, and b) this is an idea that hopefully can spur healthy and respectable dialogue and not a bunch of bellyaching and keyboard jockeying for the high ground.

Burrowed

Anyone know where i could find wgtr setup sheet for roche p10 evo? petitrc only has for foam.

MC Hamilton

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I really don’t want to change from 1S to 2S in WGTR. Right now I can run 1/12th and WGTR on the same speed controls and batteries. I like pan cars so seems like having pan cars being similar was a good idea. Why change all that to go a tiny bit faster?

TOM MAR

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trackdesigner71

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You raise a fair point. If simplifying the formula means 10th/Pro10 is 1S along with 12th scale, then that is fine as long as again, you have a fornula that is easy to understand and enforce at the necessary level. Touring car can be 2S and have 21.5/17.5/Mod for the "championship classes" within that segment. Whatever the formulas end up being, itll be easier for people on both the micro (club) and macro (regional/national) level.

MC Hamilton

iTrader: (4)

Does anyone race pro10? Many of us have them up here in Michigan, but I have never seen an opportunity to race them anywhere My point is, they don’t seem relevant in the Midwest at least. We all have 1/12th scales, now GT12 and WGTRs. Finding enough racers to even add another heat of yet another onroad class doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen. So why do we need to align the classes. I think we are trying to solve the wrong problem. Maybe reducing the number of classes that we race and other “classes for the fun of it” can go back to the driveway?

BullFrog

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Leave our present day classes like they are period. Why change what is working period. TD you really need to start your own organization!

sugs

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Any rules against running an F1 chassis in this class or is that a no no? Just curious as F1 is more popular here in SoCal, and yes I realize there would be some body mounting challenges to figure out.

BullFrog

iTrader: (4)

The F1 chassis is better in F1 and a WGT-R chassis works fine in the WGT-R class. Is there something we are missing with people trying to change classes (TD)? A DEDICATED chassis is always better for the class it was designed for!

sugs

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Not trying to change anything, just asked if it was against the rules. Basically looking for a yes or no answer. If it is against the rules, then maybe we'll call it something else.