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ShtLuck 12-13-2018 07:24 PM

I will have to look for them.

Gerd 12-14-2018 12:30 AM

Seidel rc doesn’t ship outside Germany:mad:

Macio4ever 12-14-2018 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by ShtLuck (Post 15353758)
so i just ordered a 419x i will probably go xr at some point. I am running in USGT and coming from a TB EVO 7 that i struggled with the crazy amount of grip it made on CRC black carpet. Anything i need to do for black carpet or any band aids i need to know about during the build up? also what is a good starting point for the car on black carpet?

I would start with stock setup which is good starting point. I race with some minor changes:

1. Less front toe out (around 1.5)
2. Springs (I use SMJ - 2.8 or 3.0 linear rear, 2.7-3 progressive front
3. One step harder front antirollbar
4. Soft (ball) central stiffener
5. Top Deck from WS

If you use alu deck I would recommend to use thinner top deck (Vigor 1.6)
Diff oil 6k up. Lately I use 8k some use 10k
Dampers oil 450-500

Important:
1. Mill/sand topdeck near spur gear as the clearance is too small. While driving it will spur rubs against topdeck (I had this in 419X, WS and XR as well)
2. Use third bearing inside spur gear (pulleys). You have to buy this separately. It will save you pain with sloppy spur and shaft. In the end pulleys would have to be replaced as they wobble. It cannot be shimmed as the shims press against bearings making them too tight.

Those are IMHO two obvious flaws in this model.

ittjv 12-14-2018 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Macio4ever (Post 15354637)
I would start with stock setup which is good starting point. I race with some minor changes:

1. Less front toe out (around 1.5)
2. Springs (I use SMJ - 2.8 or 3.0 linear rear, 2.7-3 progressive front
3. One step harder front antirollbar
4. Soft (ball) central stiffener
5. Top Deck from WS

If you use alu deck I would recommend to use thinner top deck (Vigor 1.6)
Diff oil 6k up. Lately I use 8k some use 10k
Dampers oil 450-500

Important:
1. Mill/sand topdeck near spur gear as the clearance is too small. While driving it will spur rubs against topdeck (I had this in 419X, WS and XR as well)
2. Use third bearing inside spur gear (pulleys). You have to buy this separately. It will save you pain with sloppy spur and shaft. In the end pulleys would have to be replaced as they wobble. It cannot be shimmed as the shims press against bearings making them too tight.

Those are IMHO two obvious flaws in this model.

Can you share a pic of what you do with the Spur? Sounds interesting. I shim to stop the spur wobble, but your idea sounds better.
Thanks,
Jose

Macio4ever 12-17-2018 01:47 AM

I used third bearing (3 or 4mm wide) inside one of the pulleys - red arrow shows where you should put your bearing. With three bearings shaft and pulleys have close to none play. When assembled I have just very, very tiny play (I think < 0,1mm) and spur spin freely for a couple of seconds. This tiny play is needed as spur and pinion will nicely mesh.
Bearings are standard size but different ones for X/XWS and XR (XR has thicker shaft).


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...ff8b367347.jpg

TRF419X Pulley and additional bearing

trf415msx 12-17-2018 01:25 PM

Anyone know anything new for tamiya this time of the year.........new trf

Qatmix 12-17-2018 03:06 PM

The TA07MS has just started to hit stores (That is a new TRF, a single belt 419XR). Also the 419XR has recently been released globally as a full kit. It will be a while before a new 419 but there will be one at some point I am sure :)

97Clemow 12-17-2018 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by trf415msx (Post 15356600)
Anyone know anything new for tamiya this time of the year.........new trf

https://www.tamiya.com/english/news/news1901/news0.htm
tamiya japan page new releases

tommy1030 12-18-2018 06:01 AM

What is the effect of using F1 FR0.5/F0.5 FR1

Airwave 12-20-2018 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by trf415msx (Post 15356600)
Anyone know anything new for tamiya this time of the year.........new trf

sorry but there won't be any new trf cars...
But probably great MS cars...

Raman 12-20-2018 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Airwave (Post 15358890)
sorry but there won't be any new trf cars...
But probably great MS cars...

And you have this information based on what?

There will infact be more TRF cars and MS cars.. this is from sources in Tamiya.. so please don’t spread unverified rumours


airbiscuit 12-22-2018 03:56 AM

Which front uprights comes with the original 419x kit?
Its it the 418 C Carbon #54568?

Macio4ever 12-22-2018 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by airbiscuit (Post 15359774)
Which front uprights comes with the original 419x kit?
Its it the 418 C Carbon #54568?

Yes this is it.

trf415msx 12-24-2018 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Tom1977 (Post 15354080)
For carpet i recommend the 419X-WS aluminium lower deck and the 1.7mm X-WS upper deck. But both hard to get...

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...3a621cc9aa.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...544618108d.jpg

looking for TRF419X aluminum chassis anyone have it for sale pleas pm me
thank you

Juan Aveytia 12-27-2018 02:33 AM

Looking for. 419x aluminum chassis
 
I’m also looking for a 419x aluminum chassis. Please pm me if you have one for sale


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