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Old 09-06-2016 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom1977
Do you really think, they go away from TRF line?

The fact that was conspicuous in my eyes at the introduction of the TRF419X and even the TA07pro back in July, was the time of full availability of spare parts and hop ups. It was much slower than at the introduction of the TA06/TB04 and even the TRF418/TRF419. But I can only speak for Germany. We have Tamiya Europe as main distribution here. And they get their parts directly from Japan.

I rather think Tamiya has a very high demand on TRF419X and TA07 kits/spare parts at the moment and they can't produce more for the world market because of production line limits.

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I was just relaying the info I was told by a LHS owner. I dont think the TRF line will go away anytime soon, at least I hope not.

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@ Disaster999 - This has nothing to do with the TRF line ..

The prices from reseller in Japan and Hong Kong are too competitive for the likes of Tamiya EU and Tamiya USA. For this reason, Tamiya Japan is pressuring its dealers in the far east to either raise prices or not ship to EU and USA.

Banzai's entire Tamiya catalog was yanked about a month ago and now is showing sold out and RCMart and Stella are both showing out of stock on a lot of items. Banzai actually went through this a year ago and Tamiya forced them to reduce their discount by 10 basis points. It seems that was not enough, so now they are even pressing harder.
This I agree on and it's most probably the case here. I was really surprised at the price of the 419x (380usd) when my LHS told me about it and I instantly bought it. Parts, if available, arent too expensive either.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 08:35 PM
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[QUOTE=disaster999;14661481]When I tried to buy the suspension blocks to make the front more narrower, a local RC shop told me those and chassis were out of stock for months and parts for Tamiya have been very scarce lately. They either refuse to ship the parts or manufacture them completely. They have been trying to get parts for months with no luck. Seems like they are slowly backing away from the TRF line and sticking with the TA line.

Ive messaged a numerous number of well known aftermarket chassis producers here in Hong Kong and they all have no plans on making the chassis for the Tamiya. Im not really sure why but its pretty disappoint to say the least.

After finding all that out I decided not to wait for shops to have them in stock and just order from Bezerk. It helps to have 55 bucks sitting in my paypal account which I totally

If you have your old blocks from 419 you can always sand them down .5mm down . That's what Alot of yokomo guys are doing also to lower their front blocks . I sanded my D blocks and C blocks to narrow car more for low bite asphalt
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This is my first Tamiya so I dont have any blocks. I did buy the the Tamiya 1C rear block and Yeah Racing Front block. Sanding the front block down 0.5mm seems doable but not sure how i can sand 0.5mm off the rear blocks with the locating pin in the way. Definitely a good tip tho.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by disaster999
This is my first Tamiya so I dont have any blocks. I did buy the the Tamiya 1C rear block and Yeah Racing Front block. Sanding the front block down 0.5mm seems doable but not sure how i can sand 0.5mm off the rear blocks with the locating pin in the way. Definitely a good tip tho.
Just sand the tip off
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Old 09-09-2016 | 08:24 AM
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I'm in the process of building a trf419x car kit. I noticed that even after riming the suspension arms, the arms are not moving very freely after installing the suspension mounts on them. Is this normal when building new suspension arms? If not, can you all please advise me what should I do? Thank you.
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Old 09-09-2016 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kakaru
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I'm in the process of building a trf419x car kit. I noticed that even after riming the suspension arms, the arms are not moving very freely after installing the suspension mounts on them. Is this normal when building new suspension arms? If not, can you all please advise me what should I do? Thank you.
There is no need to do anything with the suspension arm and it is not recommended. Try some thinner shims and you should be able to make the arms move freely.
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Old 09-09-2016 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Kakaru
Hi guys

I'm in the process of building a trf419x car kit. I noticed that even after riming the suspension arms, the arms are not moving very freely after installing the suspension mounts on them. Is this normal when building new suspension arms? If not, can you all please advise me what should I do? Thank you.
Don't need to ream the arms, the pins are supposed to be tight in the arm. They pivot on the balls.

Try loosening the toe blocks, pushing the arms toward the blocks and then tightening again. Basically you're trying to push the blocks away from each other. It should create just a little bit of play and allow the arms to move freely. If that fails, less shims.
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Old 09-09-2016 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Raman
@ Disaster999 - This has nothing to do with the TRF line ..

The prices from reseller in Japan and Hong Kong are too competitive for the likes of Tamiya EU and Tamiya USA. For this reason, Tamiya Japan is pressuring its dealers in the far east to either raise prices or not ship to EU and USA.

Banzai's entire Tamiya catalog was yanked about a month ago and now is showing sold out and RCMart and Stella are both showing out of stock on a lot of items. Banzai actually went through this a year ago and Tamiya forced them to reduce their discount by 10 basis points. It seems that was not enough, so now they are even pressing harder.
Honestly right now with the exchange rate and EMS shipping costs there isn't as much to be saved as there used to be. US availability on certain items isn't always great though so that part is a bummer.
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Old 09-09-2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
Don't need to ream the arms, the pins are supposed to be tight in the arm. They pivot on the balls.

Try loosening the toe blocks, pushing the arms toward the blocks and then tightening again. Basically you're trying to push the blocks away from each other. It should create just a little bit of play and allow the arms to move freely. If that fails, less shims.

Thanks guys. I will try doing that later. :-)
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Old 09-09-2016 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kakaru
Hi guys

I'm in the process of building a trf419x car kit. I noticed that even after riming the suspension arms, the arms are not moving very freely after installing the suspension mounts on them. Is this normal when building new suspension arms? If not, can you all please advise me what should I do? Thank you.
I put one of these together for another racer and found that you have to pay attention to the size of the spacers they specify for the arms. I can't remember specifically but I think I changed around the thin spacers as the way they showed caused very tight arms. I think there are something like 0.5 and 0.7 shims and the 0.7 ones are just too thick.
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Old 09-09-2016 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Raman
@ Disaster999 - This has nothing to do with the TRF line ..

The prices from reseller in Japan and Hong Kong are too competitive for the likes of Tamiya EU and Tamiya USA. For this reason, Tamiya Japan is pressuring its dealers in the far east to either raise prices or not ship to EU and USA.

Banzai's entire Tamiya catalog was yanked about a month ago and now is showing sold out and RCMart and Stella are both showing out of stock on a lot of items. Banzai actually went through this a year ago and Tamiya forced them to reduce their discount by 10 basis points. It seems that was not enough, so now they are even pressing harder.
That doesn't make any sense. Why would Tamiya care what resellers sell their kits for? Even if they had the market by the neck (which they don't), such a measure can only diminish their sales in markets where they don't have a big stake anyway. Not saying that Tamiya has the best market strategy, but this is a bit much even for them. Trying to protect importers in markets where tariffs are too high will only benefit whoever charges the tariff (import duty, whatever), not the importer. This is simply because the money available on the market to be channelled into their pockets are the same, so people will buy less. Eventually they will just move away from Tamiya or die. Australian shops bear testimony to this.

Besides, trying to fight the power of the internet in a global economy only serves to make you a dinosaur. And we all know what happened to that lot.

Nah, my money says Tamiya has reached a crisis point and they have no idea where to take their TRF cars. They are stuck in the past in a market with a lot of innovative cars on offer and more choice for the customer. This is where you get when you refuse to build innovative cars and rely on addicted fanboys with blue fever. They'll probably regurgitate another car from five years ago with some new shiny alloy and limited retro compatibility so people will have to buy some more stuff, and the world will move on.
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Old 09-09-2016 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone
I put one of these together for another racer and found that you have to pay attention to the size of the spacers they specify for the arms. I can't remember specifically but I think I changed around the thin spacers as the way they showed caused very tight arms. I think there are something like 0.5 and 0.7 shims and the 0.7 ones are just too thick.

Cool. Thanks for the info. I just resolved this issue and continue building other parts. :-)
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Old 09-09-2016 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Core Creations
Honestly right now with the exchange rate and EMS shipping costs there isn't as much to be saved as there used to be. US availability on certain items isn't always great though so that part is a bummer.
I can get a 419x for $458 delivered to my door. Where in the US can I get a similar price to that?
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Old 09-09-2016 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Core Creations
Honestly right now with the exchange rate and EMS shipping costs there isn't as much to be saved as there used to be. US availability on certain items isn't always great though so that part is a bummer.
The dollar falling against the yen definitely stopped me front buying with Japanese sites. Dollar with respect to HK though is still pretty good.

State side, Tower doesn't list replacement parts for basic cars like TT02. The best site we have these days for Tamiya parts seems to be TQ..

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Old 09-10-2016 | 12:14 PM
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What extra suspension blocks should I be buying for this 419x? Can someone share part numbers please.
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