Team Associated TC6.2 Touring Car
#1156
Sorry guys, just a little german talk with a friend and longtime AE onroad driver from another region in Germany. In the german forum where we used to chat, there is little to no talk about the 6.2, so we are looking for help here.
Speaking of help: Can someone recommend and/or post a modified medium grip asphalt setup with a ton of steering and excellent middle corner turning for a track with a lot of u-turns?
Speaking of help: Can someone recommend and/or post a modified medium grip asphalt setup with a ton of steering and excellent middle corner turning for a track with a lot of u-turns?
#1157
sorry for writing in german
not many AE-drivers in germany anymore - so I'm happy to find a lot of good tipps here!
not many AE-drivers in germany anymore - so I'm happy to find a lot of good tipps here!
#1159
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
im highly offended by the non english words on the previous page!!!... yeah right lol i dont care im just bored
anyways;
when people put their wheelbase on the setup sheets, how are they measuring that? its it from the inner or outer parts of the mounts, or total between certain shims between both inner and outer of each mount? and how does changing the wheel base affect the car?
here is my current setup, im having a little issue with the car under steering / pushing entering turns but it pulls out just fine. however if i gear it for a lower final drive ratio i can kick the rear around and the car doesnt push anymore but i over temp my motor by A LOT... any tips?
anyways;
when people put their wheelbase on the setup sheets, how are they measuring that? its it from the inner or outer parts of the mounts, or total between certain shims between both inner and outer of each mount? and how does changing the wheel base affect the car?
here is my current setup, im having a little issue with the car under steering / pushing entering turns but it pulls out just fine. however if i gear it for a lower final drive ratio i can kick the rear around and the car doesnt push anymore but i over temp my motor by A LOT... any tips?
#1160
Tech Master
iTrader: (6)
im highly offended by the non english words on the previous page!!!... yeah right lol i dont care im just bored
anyways;
when people put their wheelbase on the setup sheets, how are they measuring that? its it from the inner or outer parts of the mounts, or total between certain shims between both inner and outer of each mount? and how does changing the wheel base affect the car?
here is my current setup, im having a little issue with the car under steering / pushing entering turns but it pulls out just fine. however if i gear it for a lower final drive ratio i can kick the rear around and the car doesnt push anymore but i over temp my motor by A LOT... any tips?
anyways;
when people put their wheelbase on the setup sheets, how are they measuring that? its it from the inner or outer parts of the mounts, or total between certain shims between both inner and outer of each mount? and how does changing the wheel base affect the car?
here is my current setup, im having a little issue with the car under steering / pushing entering turns but it pulls out just fine. however if i gear it for a lower final drive ratio i can kick the rear around and the car doesnt push anymore but i over temp my motor by A LOT... any tips?
Those are crazy temps for that gearing. How are your belts and pinion (tightness). I run mine fairly loose and it keeps the heat down. Just loos enough not to slip on the belts, and same basic principle on the pinion.
#1161
here is my current setup, im having a little issue with the car under steering / pushing entering turns but it pulls out just fine. however if i gear it for a lower final drive ratio i can kick the rear around and the car doesnt push anymore but i over temp my motor by A LOT... any tips?
I for myself are now working on a 10.5t setup and it became clear, that I have to change my 17.5t driving style for the faster corner approaching...
#1162
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
There's text right on the setup sheet to tell you where to measure the wheelbase. (farthest front shims and farthest rear)
Those are crazy temps for that gearing. How are your belts and pinion (tightness). I run mine fairly loose and it keeps the heat down. Just loos enough not to slip on the belts, and same basic principle on the pinion.
Those are crazy temps for that gearing. How are your belts and pinion (tightness). I run mine fairly loose and it keeps the heat down. Just loos enough not to slip on the belts, and same basic principle on the pinion.
Your setup looks fine to me. Similar to what I drive in 17.5t with the same effect making it faster with boost. Two things are different. One, I have thicker oil in the rear diff what makes the car turn more and two, I have 2° toe. In your case you could try 3000cst oil in the diff and see if it cures the understeer. Another small thing is to reduce Ackermann for a stronger entry steering.
#1163
The stiffer rear end will take away traction compared to the front to make the car turn better. The difficulty here is to make it turn better without getting oversteer. For me this is about fine tuning droop, toe, diff oil, anti-roll-bar and springs.
I will try a lot of settings next weekend. If I find something useful I let you know
Which 3mm shims did you mean?
#1164
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
If you shorten the wheelbase in front, it will give more steering. Shortening the rear will give more rear grip. Shortening both ends will make the car more agile for tight corners.
The stiffer rear end will take away traction compared to the front to make the car turn better. The difficulty here is to make it turn better without getting oversteer. For me this is about fine tuning droop, toe, diff oil, anti-roll-bar and springs.
I will try a lot of settings next weekend. If I find something useful I let you know
Which 3mm shims did you mean?
The stiffer rear end will take away traction compared to the front to make the car turn better. The difficulty here is to make it turn better without getting oversteer. For me this is about fine tuning droop, toe, diff oil, anti-roll-bar and springs.
I will try a lot of settings next weekend. If I find something useful I let you know
Which 3mm shims did you mean?
#1165
Tech Apprentice
Hi Folks,
this is interesting for wtcc and all others with "rear steering" suspensions.
FILL IN THE DOT IN THE LINK
serpent com/news/13761/Serpent-introduces-the-RRS-system-for-1/10----411---Eryx-.html
The toe-in vs. ride height graphs in picture 4 are nice.
Reducing toe-in on bump isnīt really mentioned, only the opposite (increasing)
this is interesting for wtcc and all others with "rear steering" suspensions.
FILL IN THE DOT IN THE LINK
serpent com/news/13761/Serpent-introduces-the-RRS-system-for-1/10----411---Eryx-.html
The toe-in vs. ride height graphs in picture 4 are nice.
Reducing toe-in on bump isnīt really mentioned, only the opposite (increasing)
#1166
Tech Champion
iTrader: (31)
Well here goes nothing....
What's on the car as it sits today....
RSD front bumper kit
Yokomo Blue springs all around
Gravity RC (Paul Lemieux) gold tiN screws & ballstuds
Blue Alum. adjustable body mounts
AE shocks w/all RSD innards
AE DCJ's on the front
Kimbrough 96t 64p Spur
New in pkg parts....
(2) sets of Tamiya TRF Special Dampers Works Edition (1 set built up)
(1) ZZRacing Titanium TC6.2 screw set
(2) complete sets of Exotek shock bottoms/tops/spring retainers (1 set on the set of TRF shocks that I've built up)
(1) AE TC6.1 Ceramic bearing set (#31379)
(2) complete sets of RSD TC6.2 Spring sets (of one set, the light blue/dark blues are on the TRF shocks that I've built up) (#RSD116)
(2) RSD AE TC6.1 DCJ's V2 (they come in pairs, #RSD070)
(3) RSD 10mm Soft Shock Bladders (#RSD012)
(2) RSD 3mm Silicone Shock O-rings (#RSD032)
(1) RSD 10mm 311 Pistons (3x1.1mm)(#RSD054)
(1) RSD 10mm 315 Pistons (3x1.15mm)(RSD055)
(1) AE Body Post Set (#31625)
(1) AE TC5 Front Belt (#31187)
(1) AE TC5 Rear Belt (#31188)
(1) AE TC6.2 Belt Tensioner Kit (#31639)
(1) AE TC6.1 Front Arms (#31356)
(1) AE TC6.1 Rear Arms (#31357)
(1) AE TC6.1 Steering Blocks (#31360)
(1) AE TC6.1 Rear Hub Carrier (#31359)
(1) AE TC6.2 Arm Mount Inserts (#31620)
(1) AE RC10TC6 Spool Outdrives (#31341)
(1) AE CVA Bone Blades (#31238)
(2) AE TC6.1 Anti Rollbar Kits (#31364)
(1) AE Shock Rebuild Kit (#6440)
(1) AE Turnbuckle Eyelets (#31305)
(1) AE TC5 Shock Bushings (#31250)
There's also an extra GEARDIFF (built up), a pair of Yokomo Pink springs, HPI Shock parts/Ball End set (#73510) for fitment of the TRF Special dampers and all the AE original bumper pcs/screws/frt axles/pistons/springs/plastics.
I can post pics of everything. And will ship if necessary (if we can't meet & greet)
I'm asking $600 FIRM....the chassis has not a scratch & for those who know, knows my $hIt is clean
I might be willing to leave the Orca 17.5 pwr pkg in the car as well for an xtra $200
Hit me up if interested
- Bizz
RSD front bumper kit
Yokomo Blue springs all around
Gravity RC (Paul Lemieux) gold tiN screws & ballstuds
Blue Alum. adjustable body mounts
AE shocks w/all RSD innards
AE DCJ's on the front
Kimbrough 96t 64p Spur
New in pkg parts....
(2) sets of Tamiya TRF Special Dampers Works Edition (1 set built up)
(1) ZZRacing Titanium TC6.2 screw set
(2) complete sets of Exotek shock bottoms/tops/spring retainers (1 set on the set of TRF shocks that I've built up)
(1) AE TC6.1 Ceramic bearing set (#31379)
(2) complete sets of RSD TC6.2 Spring sets (of one set, the light blue/dark blues are on the TRF shocks that I've built up) (#RSD116)
(2) RSD AE TC6.1 DCJ's V2 (they come in pairs, #RSD070)
(3) RSD 10mm Soft Shock Bladders (#RSD012)
(2) RSD 3mm Silicone Shock O-rings (#RSD032)
(1) RSD 10mm 311 Pistons (3x1.1mm)(#RSD054)
(1) RSD 10mm 315 Pistons (3x1.15mm)(RSD055)
(1) AE Body Post Set (#31625)
(1) AE TC5 Front Belt (#31187)
(1) AE TC5 Rear Belt (#31188)
(1) AE TC6.2 Belt Tensioner Kit (#31639)
(1) AE TC6.1 Front Arms (#31356)
(1) AE TC6.1 Rear Arms (#31357)
(1) AE TC6.1 Steering Blocks (#31360)
(1) AE TC6.1 Rear Hub Carrier (#31359)
(1) AE TC6.2 Arm Mount Inserts (#31620)
(1) AE RC10TC6 Spool Outdrives (#31341)
(1) AE CVA Bone Blades (#31238)
(2) AE TC6.1 Anti Rollbar Kits (#31364)
(1) AE Shock Rebuild Kit (#6440)
(1) AE Turnbuckle Eyelets (#31305)
(1) AE TC5 Shock Bushings (#31250)
There's also an extra GEARDIFF (built up), a pair of Yokomo Pink springs, HPI Shock parts/Ball End set (#73510) for fitment of the TRF Special dampers and all the AE original bumper pcs/screws/frt axles/pistons/springs/plastics.
I can post pics of everything. And will ship if necessary (if we can't meet & greet)
I'm asking $600 FIRM....the chassis has not a scratch & for those who know, knows my $hIt is clean
I might be willing to leave the Orca 17.5 pwr pkg in the car as well for an xtra $200
Hit me up if interested
- Bizz
Last edited by JayBee; 07-06-2014 at 06:58 PM. Reason: added pics
#1169
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
JayBee, bummer to hear man.
engr, sweet!
Just a vid to bring thread BTTT. Nothin' too entertaining.
engr, sweet!
Just a vid to bring thread BTTT. Nothin' too entertaining.
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