Hot Bodies Cyclone
08-29-2008, 07:59 PM
08-29-2008, 08:08 PM
Oh yeah...some lucky cyclone owner is gonna get all these spares
08-30-2008, 12:11 AM
[QUOTE=STLNLST;4787608]Rear end locked is my way of saying to make sure the rear isn't loose or fish tailing in the corners due to lack of traction. I had to guess what to do in the low traction conditions that you stated. When you say your car pushes...is that on power or off power? If the 8mm works for you...don't worry about what I like. You go set TQ
I may try that myself just to see how it feels.
How did the car feel with the droop that way?[/QUOTE/]
my car pushes with on power . i dont think that it lacks of grip because i changed to the carbon midle deck instead of the aluminium heatsink , and i do prefer the carbon deck over the aluminium one.
For the droop that you told me , it had more off power steering but a litle less on power steering . my track is medium speed track low grip so i would need abit of both abit more on power steering.but my main probleme is just after the straight ive got to slow down to have enough steering .just after the straight there is a c shap corner and when i go full speed my car understeer and ... bang i hit the barier.
last question when the pros they write 5mm droop on there setup sheet . does it mean 5mm over ride height or does it mean 5mm on the droop gauge
thank you
I may try that myself just to see how it feels. How did the car feel with the droop that way?[/QUOTE/]my car pushes with on power . i dont think that it lacks of grip because i changed to the carbon midle deck instead of the aluminium heatsink , and i do prefer the carbon deck over the aluminium one.
For the droop that you told me , it had more off power steering but a litle less on power steering . my track is medium speed track low grip so i would need abit of both abit more on power steering.but my main probleme is just after the straight ive got to slow down to have enough steering .just after the straight there is a c shap corner and when i go full speed my car understeer and ... bang i hit the barier.
last question when the pros they write 5mm droop on there setup sheet . does it mean 5mm over ride height or does it mean 5mm on the droop gauge
thank you
08-30-2008, 02:48 AM
08-30-2008, 03:49 AM
Tech Rookie
POM Outdrives
Does the POM outdrives fit the Solid Axle ver.3?
And how can the POM outdrives fit into the 2 way diff (one-way/spool)? Coz the shape of the original steel 2 Way diff drives are completely different from that of the POM outdrives.
POM Outdrives: http://www.hbeurope.com/piw.php?partNo=67731&lang=en
2 Way Diff: http://www.hbeurope.com/piw.php?lang=en&partNo=67714
Thank you!
And how can the POM outdrives fit into the 2 way diff (one-way/spool)? Coz the shape of the original steel 2 Way diff drives are completely different from that of the POM outdrives.
POM Outdrives: http://www.hbeurope.com/piw.php?partNo=67731&lang=en
2 Way Diff: http://www.hbeurope.com/piw.php?lang=en&partNo=67714
Thank you!
08-30-2008, 08:39 AM
[QUOTE=cyclone speed;4788347]
To pick up a little more on power steering you could always lay your front shocks down. This will help some but from what you're describing I would work on entering the the "C" corner a little better. If you're pushing to the point to where you hit the wall then you're on the throtle too long. How are other driver's entering that same part of the track? Do they go full punched or do they slow down some? I would think that 5mm of droop is on the gauge but you never know what they are going off of. Sometimes they will state on their set up sheet if droop is measured over ride height.
Rear end locked is my way of saying to make sure the rear isn't loose or fish tailing in the corners due to lack of traction. I had to guess what to do in the low traction conditions that you stated. When you say your car pushes...is that on power or off power? If the 8mm works for you...don't worry about what I like. You go set TQ I may try that myself just to see how it feels. How did the car feel with the droop that way?[/QUOTE/]
my car pushes with on power . i dont think that it lacks of grip because i changed to the carbon midle deck instead of the aluminium heatsink , and i do prefer the carbon deck over the aluminium one.
For the droop that you told me , it had more off power steering but a litle less on power steering . my track is medium speed track low grip so i would need abit of both abit more on power steering.but my main probleme is just after the straight ive got to slow down to have enough steering .just after the straight there is a c shap corner and when i go full speed my car understeer and ... bang i hit the barier.
last question when the pros they write 5mm droop on there setup sheet . does it mean 5mm over ride height or does it mean 5mm on the droop gauge
thank you
I may try that myself just to see how it feels. How did the car feel with the droop that way?[/QUOTE/]my car pushes with on power . i dont think that it lacks of grip because i changed to the carbon midle deck instead of the aluminium heatsink , and i do prefer the carbon deck over the aluminium one.
For the droop that you told me , it had more off power steering but a litle less on power steering . my track is medium speed track low grip so i would need abit of both abit more on power steering.but my main probleme is just after the straight ive got to slow down to have enough steering .just after the straight there is a c shap corner and when i go full speed my car understeer and ... bang i hit the barier.
last question when the pros they write 5mm droop on there setup sheet . does it mean 5mm over ride height or does it mean 5mm on the droop gauge
thank you
08-30-2008, 08:42 AM
Tech Master
iTrader: (21)
hello to all
Got a couple of questions.I have an original black Cyclone.Going to start upgrading.So far...I'm looking at the worlds shock towers(61090/1 F/R).I see the 67702 chassis and 67703 top deck listed at HB( just saw that these are the TC parts.Will they fit?Is the 70728 WC chassis an improvement over the original chassis?).Is this combo a good upgrade?Same chassis but with the battery trays or different than original?One more...The 44mm bones,why would I need them? I do remember seeing posts about them but with about 4,0000 posts..
Anything else you guys could recommend? OH...going to be running rubber on carpet...maybe foam.Then using it for rubber on asphalt next summer.Thanks for any help.Mario.
Anything else you guys could recommend? OH...going to be running rubber on carpet...maybe foam.Then using it for rubber on asphalt next summer.Thanks for any help.Mario.
Last edited by lotus1; 08-30-2008 at 09:16 AM. Reason: misstake
08-30-2008, 08:53 AM
Tech Master
iTrader: (21)
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One more Q...Might seem dumb but.....Are the MIP's really that much better than the original CVD's? Thanks,Mario.
08-30-2008, 10:35 AM
[QUOTE=STLNLST;4788993]
To pick up a little more on power steering you could always lay your front shocks down. This will help some but from what you're describing I would work on entering the the "C" corner a little better. If you're pushing to the point to where you hit the wall then you're on the throtle too long. How are other driver's entering that same part of the track? Do they go full punched or do they slow down some? I would think that 5mm of droop is on the gauge but you never know what they are going off of. Sometimes they will state on their set up sheet if droop is measured over ride height.
hi i think that they do slow down but it doesnt look like they slow down . but i will ask them.last question how much over ride height will it give me with 5mm droop on the gauge.
Thank you alot for you help i appriciate your help
To pick up a little more on power steering you could always lay your front shocks down. This will help some but from what you're describing I would work on entering the the "C" corner a little better. If you're pushing to the point to where you hit the wall then you're on the throtle too long. How are other driver's entering that same part of the track? Do they go full punched or do they slow down some? I would think that 5mm of droop is on the gauge but you never know what they are going off of. Sometimes they will state on their set up sheet if droop is measured over ride height.
Thank you alot for you help i appriciate your help
08-30-2008, 10:44 AM
[QUOTE=cyclone speed;4789193]It's hard to say what it will give you over ride height. It really comes down to the tire's you run. Sorex tire's are taller than Jaco's and RP's Once you set the droop using the gauges....put your tire's on and then measure what it is over ride height.
08-30-2008, 10:48 AM
[QUOTE=STLNLST;4789214]ok guess my question is how you measure the droop over ride height?
08-30-2008, 11:19 AM
[QUOTE=shadow102;4789223]me , i take a ruler put the car on the setup board or flat surface , mesure the ride height with the ruler, i.e it shows 5mm ride height . Then you lift the car from its centerline ( in the midle of the shock tower, or anywear but from the midle of the car ) until both wheel just lift from the ground , then you look at your ruler and if it shows 8mm it means you have 3 mm droop over ride height.
Basically you do the steps above ( put the car on flat ground , mesure ride height , lift cat at centerline.....) and then you look at the number that is shown on the ruler when the wheels just lift from the ground , and what you do is this :
final number that is shown on the ruler when wheels just lift minest your ride height , this will give you the droop over ride height.
i.e if you have :
5mm ride height and 7mm as final number ( when the wheels just lift)you do : 7-5=2 you have 2 mm of over ride height
4.5 ride height and 8 mm as final number : 8-4.5=3.5 you have 3.5 mm droop over ride height
Hope that helps
Basically you do the steps above ( put the car on flat ground , mesure ride height , lift cat at centerline.....) and then you look at the number that is shown on the ruler when the wheels just lift from the ground , and what you do is this :
final number that is shown on the ruler when wheels just lift minest your ride height , this will give you the droop over ride height.
i.e if you have :
5mm ride height and 7mm as final number ( when the wheels just lift)you do : 7-5=2 you have 2 mm of over ride height
4.5 ride height and 8 mm as final number : 8-4.5=3.5 you have 3.5 mm droop over ride height
Hope that helps
08-30-2008, 11:42 AM
08-30-2008, 01:30 PM
Tech Master
iTrader: (21)
Thanks.Guess I'll order the set.Big one tho....is the worlds chassis any different than the original one? Mario.
Last edited by lotus1; 08-30-2008 at 02:28 PM.
08-30-2008, 02:16 PM