1LikesXray T3 2012
01-02-2012, 11:21 AM
#1111
Hi Marek,
The belt napping is probably related as much to driving technique as it is setup. I've not managed to snap a belt since September, racing is similar high grip environments and just being careful with throttle applications.
What sort of motor/track conditions do you race in?
The belt napping is probably related as much to driving technique as it is setup. I've not managed to snap a belt since September, racing is similar high grip environments and just being careful with throttle applications.
What sort of motor/track conditions do you race in?
01-02-2012, 11:29 AM
#1112
hey guys,
I also finished my new t3 '12 last week, now everything is setup but didn't have a chance to test the car yet. However the parts quality is awesome and booklet is clear, I really liked it.
I have only one question, the rear small AL. bulks which gives the toe in.. During the assambly of it when I screwed these small bulks, I recognized that they move a little which changes the rear toe angle..After the assambly I found out that the rear right toe in is 3mm and rear left toe in is 2.5mm ..I am sure that I assambled everything correct way double checked already.. There is some variation I guess, have you guys seen such issue or is it normal?
Many thanks in advance.
I also finished my new t3 '12 last week, now everything is setup but didn't have a chance to test the car yet. However the parts quality is awesome and booklet is clear, I really liked it.
I have only one question, the rear small AL. bulks which gives the toe in.. During the assambly of it when I screwed these small bulks, I recognized that they move a little which changes the rear toe angle..After the assambly I found out that the rear right toe in is 3mm and rear left toe in is 2.5mm ..I am sure that I assambled everything correct way double checked already.. There is some variation I guess, have you guys seen such issue or is it normal?
Many thanks in advance.
01-02-2012, 11:39 AM
#1113
Tech Regular
iTrader: (7)
actually it is not the measuring issue, when assambling the small bulks, if you rotate it a bit and screw like that it is kept pointing different toe angle..when you unscrew and screw again, it is different toe angle ...it is the bulk itself.
check out the xray instruction manual page 10, top picture it says "the rear aliminum holders have integrated rear toe in" as you can see the red line angle changes everytime you unscrew these bulks and screw again...weird.
01-02-2012, 12:05 PM
#1116
Do you have a link of that video?
01-02-2012, 04:47 PM
#1118
yes we have checked the issue with the setup board which has ruler and other equip connected to shafts without wheels.
actually it is not the measuring issue, when assambling the small bulks, if you rotate it a bit and screw like that it is kept pointing different toe angle..when you unscrew and screw again, it is different toe angle ...it is the bulk itself.
check out the xray instruction manual page 10, top picture it says "the rear aliminum holders have integrated rear toe in" as you can see the red line angle changes everytime you unscrew these bulks and screw again...weird.
actually it is not the measuring issue, when assambling the small bulks, if you rotate it a bit and screw like that it is kept pointing different toe angle..when you unscrew and screw again, it is different toe angle ...it is the bulk itself.
check out the xray instruction manual page 10, top picture it says "the rear aliminum holders have integrated rear toe in" as you can see the red line angle changes everytime you unscrew these bulks and screw again...weird.
Skiddins
01-02-2012, 06:41 PM
#1119
Tech Apprentice
Sorry it was Salven not Collari but here is the link:
Try http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...1135l0.6.1l7l0.
- Emil
01-02-2012, 07:38 PM
#1120
Tech Regular
http://www.vbcracing.com/Main.html#/tuning_kits.html
Hum... the T32 both "F" and "S" looks slick. Ordered both and can't wait to try it.
Hum... the T32 both "F" and "S" looks slick. Ordered both and can't wait to try it.
01-03-2012, 04:18 AM
#1121
Sorry it was Salven not Collari but here is the link:
Try http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...1135l0.6.1l7l0.
- Emil
Try http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...1135l0.6.1l7l0.
- Emil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILFfD...&feature#t=436
01-03-2012, 01:07 PM
#1122
Tech Adept
Turnbuckle positioning!!
Hi guys,
One of the more common setup changes on the xray is altering the upper turnbuckle position and therefore affecting the cars rollcenter and camber change. Could someone please give a detailed explanation of how altering the height and angle of the turnbuckle using shims affects the cars handling?
thanks!!
One of the more common setup changes on the xray is altering the upper turnbuckle position and therefore affecting the cars rollcenter and camber change. Could someone please give a detailed explanation of how altering the height and angle of the turnbuckle using shims affects the cars handling?
thanks!!
01-03-2012, 01:28 PM
#1123
Hi guys,
One of the more common setup changes on the xray is altering the upper turnbuckle position and therefore affecting the cars rollcenter and camber change. Could someone please give a detailed explanation of how altering the height and angle of the turnbuckle using shims affects the cars handling?
thanks!!
One of the more common setup changes on the xray is altering the upper turnbuckle position and therefore affecting the cars rollcenter and camber change. Could someone please give a detailed explanation of how altering the height and angle of the turnbuckle using shims affects the cars handling?
thanks!!
Making the top links longer in front does what ?
Making the top links longer in rear does what ?
Adding shims to the front inner link on bulk head does what?
Adding shims to the outer front link on the c hub does what?
Adding shims to the inner rear ling on the bulk head does what?
Adding shims to the outer rear link on the hub does what?
Making the front wider then the rear does what?
Making the rear wider then the front does what?
I read the triple x setup guide, and it was gibberish to me, so thanks in advance for helping with these questions
01-03-2012, 01:46 PM
#1124
+1. Just need an understanding on the following issuse as well, and if someone can explain it to me like I am a two year old, my english in not good,
Making the top links longer in front does what ?
Making the top links longer in rear does what ?
Adding shims to the front inner link on bulk head does what?
Adding shims to the outer front link on the c hub does what?
Adding shims to the inner rear ling on the bulk head does what?
Adding shims to the outer rear link on the hub does what?
Making the front wider then the rear does what?
Making the rear wider then the front does what?
I read the triple x setup guide, and it was gibberish to me, so thanks in advance for helping with these questions
Making the top links longer in front does what ?
Making the top links longer in rear does what ?
Adding shims to the front inner link on bulk head does what?
Adding shims to the outer front link on the c hub does what?
Adding shims to the inner rear ling on the bulk head does what?
Adding shims to the outer rear link on the hub does what?
Making the front wider then the rear does what?
Making the rear wider then the front does what?
I read the triple x setup guide, and it was gibberish to me, so thanks in advance for helping with these questions
Making the top links longer in front does what ?
Longer links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Making the top links longer in rear does what ?
Longer links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the front inner link on bulk head does what?
Flatter links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the outer front link on the c hub does what?
More angled links will raise the roll center, provides more camber gain and typically increases traction
Adding shims to the inner rear ling on the bulk head does what?
Flatter links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the outer rear link on the hub does what?
More angled links will raise the roll center, provides more camber gain and typically increases traction
Making the front wider then the rear does what?
Increasing the track width will make that end of the car more stable and will typically generate less lateral grip.
Making the rear wider then the front does what?
Increasing the track width will make that end of the car more stable and will typically generate less lateral grip.
Flatter links in general are considered stiffer and angled links are considered softer...
Remember whatever change you do will effect the overall balance of the car, so you are not just effecting one side or end of the car!
01-03-2012, 01:58 PM
#1125
OK here we go...
Making the top links longer in front does what ?
Longer links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Making the top links longer in rear does what ?
Longer links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the front inner link on bulk head does what?
Flatter links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the outer front link on the c hub does what?
More angled links will raise the roll center, provides more camber gain and typically increases traction
Adding shims to the inner rear ling on the bulk head does what?
Flatter links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the outer rear link on the hub does what?
More angled links will raise the roll center, provides more camber gain and typically increases traction
Making the front wider then the rear does what?
Increasing the track width will make that end of the car more stable and will typically generate less lateral grip.
Making the rear wider then the front does what?
Increasing the track width will make that end of the car more stable and will typically generate less lateral grip.
Flatter links in general are considered stiffer and angled links are considered softer...
Remember whatever change you do will effect the overall balance of the car, so you are not just effecting one side or end of the car!
Making the top links longer in front does what ?
Longer links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Making the top links longer in rear does what ?
Longer links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the front inner link on bulk head does what?
Flatter links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the outer front link on the c hub does what?
More angled links will raise the roll center, provides more camber gain and typically increases traction
Adding shims to the inner rear ling on the bulk head does what?
Flatter links lowers the roll center, also less camber gain and typically decreases traction
Adding shims to the outer rear link on the hub does what?
More angled links will raise the roll center, provides more camber gain and typically increases traction
Making the front wider then the rear does what?
Increasing the track width will make that end of the car more stable and will typically generate less lateral grip.
Making the rear wider then the front does what?
Increasing the track width will make that end of the car more stable and will typically generate less lateral grip.
Flatter links in general are considered stiffer and angled links are considered softer...
Remember whatever change you do will effect the overall balance of the car, so you are not just effecting one side or end of the car!
Also on the subject I ran across this on the xray site - also very useful