4LikesTamiya TRF417
03-07-2013, 07:36 PM
#4862
Anybody know whats the spring rates for the tamiya carpet white and blue springs that is included in the 417x kit as bonus parts? Thanks!
03-07-2013, 11:24 PM
#4863
Joey, a question and a comment....... I see you mounted your RX and ESC toward the front of the car. Wouldn't you want it toward the back to speed up corner rotation?
You fan will move more air if you move it back another 5-8mm from the motor can. The fan output will be somewhat stalled being that close to the motor IMO.
Nice car!
You fan will move more air if you move it back another 5-8mm from the motor can. The fan output will be somewhat stalled being that close to the motor IMO.
Nice car!
Thanks for the comment~!
03-07-2013, 11:49 PM
#4865
AFAIK none. These are the HPI and Tamiya spring rates that i know of:
...dammn, I can't get this bbs to display a proper table >:-( ...
You'll find a more complete table of spring rates attached, including Yokomo, RIDE, 3Racing, TOP and other springs...
Christian
Spring Rates.zip
Code:
HPI Spring [lb/in] [gf/mm] Red 22,40 400,00 Yellow 21,73 388,00 White 20,33 363,00 Gold 19,04 340,00 Pink 17,92 320,00 Silver 16,91 302,00 Blue 15,29 273,00 Tamiya Spring [lb/in] [gf/mm] Purple 22,72 405,73 Gray 20,91 373,41 White Short 17,24 307,87 Blue Short 15,27 272,69 White 14,82 264,65 Blue 14,08 251,44 Yellow 13,33 238,05 Red Short 13,24 236,44 Yellow Short 12,90 230,37 Red 11,86 211,80
You'll find a more complete table of spring rates attached, including Yokomo, RIDE, 3Racing, TOP and other springs...
Christian
Spring Rates.zip
03-08-2013, 12:12 AM
#4866
Tech Initiate
Has anyone tried the difference between standard 417 motor bulkhead and 417X or V5? In my opinion it will change the rear flex....any experience?
03-08-2013, 06:53 AM
#4867
He was very helpful and told me that they would soon release a TRF417 conversion kit, consisting mainly of their own carbon chassis (upper and lower deck) plus some Yokomo parts (motormount, center bulkhead...). The (complete) conversion kit and probably other parts will be distributed by Toni Reinhards shop (http://www.fast-webshop.com/tonisport). The product description should be up on their website soon.
When I asked Bernd about some technical details on the raceberry chassis, he told me (rough translation): "The lower deck has a quite similar shape as the original 417V5 chassis, but it uses a different carbon structure, just like the top deck. The top deck features a very different shape and is a completely new and original development. The main problem with the original model is, that it doesn't produce enough mechanical grip. Our conversion kit features more flex in the area of the front as well as at the rear axle. Further we defined narrower flexzones, which makes the car work more exact..."
Sounds quite promising to me and they already have delivered. Gilles Groskamp used their chassis at TITC, Victor Wilck and Marc Reinhard had it at the ETS in Gran Canaria. All of them with great success, which seemed a bit unusual for Tamiya recently.
A website is in the making, but not quite ready. In the meantime you can contact Bernd via email at raceberry(at)web.de or contact Tonisport for a preorder.
Christian
03-08-2013, 07:35 AM
#4868
AFAIK none. These are the HPI and Tamiya spring rates that i know of:
...dammn, I can't get this bbs to display a proper table >:-( ...
You'll find a more complete table of spring rates attached, including Yokomo, RIDE, 3Racing, TOP and other springs...
Christian
Attachment 1041044
Code:
HPI Spring [lb/in] [gf/mm] Red 22,40 400,00 Yellow 21,73 388,00 White 20,33 363,00 Gold 19,04 340,00 Pink 17,92 320,00 Silver 16,91 302,00 Blue 15,29 273,00 Tamiya Spring [lb/in] [gf/mm] Purple 22,72 405,73 Gray 20,91 373,41 White Short 17,24 307,87 Blue Short 15,27 272,69 White 14,82 264,65 Blue 14,08 251,44 Yellow 13,33 238,05 Red Short 13,24 236,44 Yellow Short 12,90 230,37 Red 11,86 211,80
You'll find a more complete table of spring rates attached, including Yokomo, RIDE, 3Racing, TOP and other springs...
Christian
Attachment 1041044
03-08-2013, 11:17 AM
#4869
It really does seem like the other manufacturers have figured something out with chassis flex that Tamiya has been missing. The cars haven't been very good on carpet, and don't seem to have the same edge on asphalt they used to. Hopefully Kiyo can fix that. It's good to see raceberry stepping up though.
03-08-2013, 03:14 PM
#4871
Tech Master
So far the race berry set has only been used on asphalt. It will be interesting to see how it does on Carpet. I really like the original 417 on carpet (solid, not cut motor mount). I also the v5 is meant to be great on mid grip carpet I haven't tried mine yet.
03-09-2013, 01:17 AM
#4872
Tech Regular
Anyone got any pictures of there low profile shock towers?
03-09-2013, 04:35 PM
#4874
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
Please forgive me if this has already been asked. TamiyaUSA has the TRF417 Chassis Kit - w/Gear Differential Unit II on sale for $399.99. Is this kit as good or almost as good as the V5 ($600+)? I would just be an average club racer running on an asphalt parking lot. Thanks
03-09-2013, 06:26 PM
#4875
Please forgive me if this has already been asked. TamiyaUSA has the TRF417 Chassis Kit - w/Gear Differential Unit II on sale for $399.99. Is this kit as good or almost as good as the V5 ($600+)? I would just be an average club racer running on an asphalt parking lot. Thanks